Mantra, japa and bija; the alphabet and OM

experienced. That experience will take quite a lot of time. Think on it and carry on. Deva [music] raja sevya mana pavanam gri pankajam vyala yagna sutram [music] indu shekharam kripakaram narada yogi vrinda vanditam digambaram kashika puradhinatha kala bhairavam bhaje

This is the Naakshila. Guruji was sleeping once and gave a special mantra. He was standing there. Guruji was standing there and gave a mantra. He said to him, repeat it. He repeated it twice and said to him. He is doing the mantra for today. That's why we are doing the mantra for today. People are doing full arpand,

“This is a very fascination subject. How can I develop a general understanding of the subject?”

Guruji: “You’ll pick things up along the way. Buy a set of books - "Mantra Mahodadhi". You’ll gain a lot of knowledge about mantras and tantras. It’s not of any practical use though. There are a lot of tantric rituals and mantras described in that book, only for the fulfillment of material desires. And I’ve found that many mantras given in that book are incorrect. But it’ll help with the general knowledge of the subject.

“Guruji, did you specifically study this subject to understand all this or did you gain the knowledge automatically?”

Guruji: “You can say I understood it automatically (laughs). See, I’ve never studies mantras but when I hear one, I can tell if there’s a mistake in it and what that mistake is. It comes from inside whether this is wrong or right. Somebody gifted me Mantra Mahodadhi few years back. When I looked at the rituals prescribed in the book, I was surprised. Based on that, miracles should have been an everyday occurrence, since there’s no dearth of people in India engaged in such tantric rituals. But when my attention went to the mantras, I realized that most of them were either incomplete or had incorrect pronunciation. There are many technical mistakes in the book, which either have been deliberately introduced or have somehow gotten in there. That’s why they don’t give any results.

"I’ve never studies any mantras. But with yoga practice, you acquire the ability to analyze everything, even including the ritualistic worship of any god. And ultimately these rituals are kamyakarma, for fulfillment of material desires. No more than that. I have observed that if a person practices yoga - sincerely, consistently, regularly, their desires get fulfilled automatically. That is more preferable. The best thing is if Nature Itself starts taking care of you. And after reaching a certain state, whatever the man utters becomes a mantra!"

"That’s why you’ve never seen me reading a mantra, in puja or otherwise. We play Damaru, which is more than enough. Memorizing the mantra and then showing-off in front of people by repeating them doesn't make any sense to me. Simplicity is the biggest deal. And the simplicity of a person develops only when all his desires are near the state of fulfillment. He won’t care for anything! Why does a man crave money or power? To fulfill some desires. If your desires are already fulfilled, then why would you go after them? If the Nature starts favoring you then you won’t have to worry about anything."

HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA

KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE

HARE RAMA HARE RAMA

RAMA RAMA HARE HARE

from where mantra Hare Krishna has appeared?

Guruji: everybody knows: it’s traditional mantra, which started by Chaitanya Mahaprabhu nearly 500 years back.

but from where it came to him?

Guruji: that is a mystery: he went to Gaya to make rituals for his father and came back dancing and singing. He got it from there.

but before Chaitanya Mahaprabhu this mantra existed somewhere?

Guruji: no, it was not known.

is it true that Shrila Prabhupada was the secret devotee of Kali and after his death Her small murti was found on altar in his room?

Guruji: he was from Bengal: here it’s a common thing there. All Bengalis see no difference between Krishna and Kali. Hinduism is a very complicated religion.

After his retirement he ( Shrila Prabhupada ) went to USA, collected some money – some people supported him; but they had no money – they were singing bhajans and living in the rented room: the landowner threw him out so he just went to the park – because he had no money, nothing. What should they do?

So they begin to sing Hare Rama, Hare Krishna in the park. When you’re facing very big existing problem, when your very existence may depend on that – the real devotion comes. They were immerse in the singing; eyes were closed and they don’t know how long they continued to sing – maybe few hours.

When he opened his eyes – they were hundreds of people surrounding him – and they were humming with him. From there they journey started in US. I must say, that definitely blessings and kripa of Shri Krishna was on him. Otherwise the penniless person just old retired person: with what he went to US?

Only Hare Rama, Hare Krishna! And the rest is history. It is impossible story! Without grace of god, Krishna, this lilacannot happen. It is very easy to criticize anybody, but I see – in almost every country they have started pure vegetarian restaurants and many-many people became vegetarians! Many hippies left their drugs and became devotees. He started something very big. As he started when every single penny was gone from him, his landlord has threw him out; so I will say – he has His grace. There is no doubt about it.

And those, who feel jealous of his success and his fame and how big his organization became – they keep criticising everybody, not only Shrila Prabhupada. He had the real grace from Shri Krishna, he started from zero level and see: whole world knows about him. Without grace – it is not possible.

from Gorakhbodh: when yogi could experience the merging of prana and apana and their going to sushumna: it will be not the individual experience but the real perception of truth?

Guruji: it will be real perception of truth. And he will know everybody’s state of prana also – because prana is omnipotent, everywhere.

why it’s not the individual experience?

Guruji: it will start as an individual experience.

After his retirement he ( Shrila Prabhupada ) went to USA, collected some money – some people supported him; but they had no money – they were singing bhajans and living in the rented room: the landowner threw him out so he just went to the park – because he had no money, nothing. What should they do?

So they begin to sing Hare Rama, Hare Krishna in the park. When you’re facing very big existing problem, when your very existence may depend on that – the real devotion comes. They were immerse in the singing; eyes were closed and they don’t know how long they continued to sing – maybe few hours.

When he opened his eyes – they were hundreds of people surrounding him – and they were humming with him. From there they journey started in US. I must say, that definitely blessings and kripa of Shri Krishna was on him. Otherwise the penniless person just old retired person: with what he went to US?

Only Hare Rama, Hare Krishna! And the rest is history. It is impossible story! Without grace of god, Krishna, this lilacannot happen. It is very easy to criticize anybody, but I see – in almost every country they have started pure vegetarian restaurants and many-many people became vegetarians! Many hippies left their drugs and became devotees. He started something very big. As he started when every single penny was gone from him, his landlord has threw him out; so I will say – he has His grace. There is no doubt about it.

And those, who feel jealous of his success and his fame and how big his organization became – they keep criticising everybody, not only Shrila Prabhupada. He had the real grace from Shri Krishna, he started from zero level and see: whole world knows about him. Without grace – it is not possible.

Shrila Prabhupada was not exactly peddling yoga or meditation or relaxation, he had one-point program: become devotee of Radha and Krishna. And millions became( smiling). I’m from grassroots level point of view: if someone is meditating and the villager will look at him – he will just ignore him.

And if there is some bhajan going on - he will sit down there and will sing: because after bhajan prasad will be coming. When a person is just meditating – he will give you nothing. That also is very important thing – prasadam! To create the atmosphere of festivity – it’s not so easy thing to do. Hundreds of people are singing and dancing and having prasadam after that in the name of Shri Krishna – that is something. Hats off to Shrila Prabhupada!

MANTRA

… there are different categories of mantras when somebody receives it. they are compatible with their own astrological chart: when it fits in all parameters – it is called siddha mantra, and if the person will practice it – he will get success very fast. And it should be received from Guru as well. Siddha mantra – you say it one time and it will start working. Sadhya mantra – means you have to do long practice to make it perfect. You keep saying it for hundred thousands times or one million times for effect. Susiddha mantra – say it one time and it works. Just one step ahead than siddha mantra.

it is said that mantra could be inimical for the person?

Guruji: yes, so many things are involved here- all past karmas and samskaras. Kula devata, ishta devata, his Guru, his own spiritual conditions, mental condition, family background – everything comes together. It is not just you read some mantra in a book and think – it is good for you. Only the Guru will decide it – if he knows something. Every mantra has a deity which is ruling it, guarding it or just dedicated to some deity and that particular mandala or yantra is created to invoke it. usually it is like that. Usually these things are done to gain certain spiritual power or siddhi to impress and the main object usually is to find connection with the other part of life; so when you depart – you know where you are going. That is the main thing. Many people die and don’t know where they will go, but that person, who is able to contact with very powerful spirit on the other side with the siddha mantra or susiddha mantra or sadhya mantra – whatever: when he will die – he will die happy, he exactly know where he will goes and who will help. Mantra is like mobile number – dial and you will connect. Suddenly nothing happens by accident.

what does it mean to purify the mantra?

Guruji: there are so many rituals connected with it – I mean simply reading is not enough: you should be able to synchronize it with your own system – that maybe called purification of certain mantra, invocation of that certain mantra, feeling of that mantra – so many rituals attached with that.

I don’t understand, why you must do so many things with mantra if you don’t want to practice it – put it in the water etc?

Guruji: this is another thing: once you attain a certain siddhi – there is a way to leave it also. But you can’t simply say – I leave it, you have to go through the reverse process exactly to leave it. it will not remain karmical involving with you after that.

but if you just stop to practice it without all rituals?

Guruji: it means you’re not fulfilling your word, your promise- so that wrong karma and bad karma will continue affect you. Always big problems begins. You remember that story when I was young I practice one mantra on smashan to be able to kill anybody? But when I’ve met my Guru – my mind was very bad, I was always angry. Then my Guru told me – it’s better to you to leave it into the Ganges. Because you can take as insult even a small joke and it will make you angry and just to prove your power you’ll do some great harm to someone. And I offer it to the Ganges the way he told me. I tell you – my mind was immediately peaceful.

and you immediately forget this mantra?

Guruji: no, I remember it, but the power is offer. The power not bothering me to use it. I’m more peaceful. If you’re carrying the gun all the times – some day you’re going to use it. and for no reason you will feel arrogant and superior to another person, your patience will be very thin and a simple joke will be enough to make you angry to the level you may be ready to kill someone. That’s why yogi said – all these things are disturbances.

what does it mean: when you put some syllables around the chakra – some of them are alive and some are dead?

Guruji: if you don’t know exactly how to create the chakra and how to do the ritual - it is just a scatch or something. If you know exactly how to establish prana to it, life to it – then it’s alive thing. And that is considered that the body of the deity, which is preside to this particular mantra.

so it couldn’t be simultaneously life and dead?

Guruji: no, only this or that condition.

THE CURSE OF GAYATRI

Vishwamitra killed 100 sons of Vasishtha – so Vasishtha acknowledged him as brahmarishi. So he got sin of killing a brahmin 100 times. We have never come across any record that he atoned for that or did some prayashchitta to remove that – nowhere. So the mantra, which he may have given, is carrying that curse. And also it is not complete: Gayatri Chan – it is a Chan, poetry, which has got 24 matras. Half matra is missing in this mantra. We need to be very careful about it. In that Gayatri is 23.5 matras: half matra is missing. The Sanskrit scholars say – it is not complete, also carrying the sin of 100 brahman killed.

So it's not recommended for us to practice it?

Guruji: Not at all: if you want – practice Giriraj gayatri, it’s complete and no curse.

This gayatri is specially for solar worship, for the Solar dynasty. As we look around the history – most of the Solar dynasty are gone, disappear; the cultures have disappeared: from Inkas to Sun temple of Konark – all over the world if you take a larger view – no solar worshipping dynasty has survived. There is something there, which you should look at and find out; that is my observation.

Most “solar” practitioners are not so well, they are miserable. We have a very large perspective on that. Since that point came into my mind – I’ve been watching, I’ve been discussing, asking people to look at them – they are not happy. How many people have you seen doing Surya Namaskar and still looking good? You’ll not find it. Russian yoga instructors are also looking good because they are doing so many things besides that.

52 PETALS OF CHAKRAS

I have a question from Gorakhbodh: in the 127th shloka it is said pavan atma, man atma, gyan atma and perception of atma as Guru 52 times; in the comments it is said that 52 letters of the Sanskrit alphabet are also called akshar which are situated on the petals of chakras?

Guruji: Yes

Am I right that every letter means a music note?

Guruji: Actually every letter represents a particular sound vibration: a letter is just a hint to the actual vibration of the sound; and those 52 petals of your chakras are directly connected to that particular sound, which is originating from the dark in totality. So the more you’ll be able to define them – out of the general sound when you’re able to catch that particular vibration; your consciousness will be more and more in tuned when you’ll be able to differentiate between 52 types of sounds– internal sound, external sound; then that vibration will create an extraordinary development in your consciousness. That is the aim of everything.

And the perception of every sound in every petal of every chakra will give me the ability / the sound of every element in Creation?

Guruji: First you will become aware of the sound; and when you will follow that particular vibration, you will find it connected to a certain chakra – and for the sake of expressing it they were written as petals of the chakra; but it is the connection of that particular sound with your nervous system, which you’ll begin to call “petals”. It is just a junction, where the sound is entering your whole system. You will become aware – it will take time; these things always take time, and understanding will take some more time to develop – even after the connection you’re able to recognize, where it is connected with your system, your nervous system. Then slowly-slowly the understanding will begin to develop. Have patience!

So I will hear the whole spectrum of nada? If I hear these notes?

Guruji: First you will become aware of the sound in general with different frequencies, different notes, different volumes; then after you have settled in those experiences – different frequencies you’ll be able to distinguish them distinctly. Suddenly nothing will happen, it always takes time. When your awareness becomes extremely refined you’ll become aware of even more minor things, then this differentiation you will begin to experience. Keep practicing yoga to the best of your ability – then your senses will be more and more aware about this. Development of the brain!

If that nada sound is the word of atma – will it be the perception 52 times your atma as Guru?

Guruji: Atma comes from somewhere and just gives you life and when it leaves our body – it takes life with it. It is your problem, how to maintain its attention to you or to make it interested inside you. The more you will develop your mind – then maybe atma will take more interest in you and you may develop to a level when the mind becomes the disciple of your atma and it will accept it as a disciple and be the Guru of your mind; then the eternal association will begin.

If we counted the petals in every chakra – it would give only 50? Where are the two others?

Guruji: Inside sahasrara there are 2 more.

When Bhimnath visited next time, he politely inquired if he could learn this vidya, the art of a poison removal. “Can you teach it to me?”

The snake catcher said that he would have to ask his guru, who was living somewhere in Orissa or Bengali. He sent a message via grapevine – and after some time his guru replied: “Yes, you can teach this yogi, as he is already living in Smashan and does not belong to the society”. The sapera never teaches their art outside of their community, it is a closed tribe, protective of it’s customs and members. In fact, they do not extradite their criminals to the police either, conducting their own courts and administering justice by the council of the elders…

Bhimhath chose a day of initiation himself. He performed a certain ritual in one of the rooms of the cenotaph – and taught him two mantras in the grass-root level, ancient Hindi. He was told to keep repeating the mantras for a certain number of times, and that at exactly midnight he will have some sort of experience, “a confirmation”.

He did it, as he was told, at his room, and at exactly midnight he had a vision of two very dark-skinned tribal women; one of them was stout, almost fat; another – very thin.

Bhimnath came the next day to inquire about the results – and, upon hearing about the vision, was very satisfied, stating that everything went well.

He came back in two days, wearing a red turban, dressed for a special occasion and carrying different supplies for a ceremony. He also had a basket with a very dangerous type of cobra with him.

Snake charmer insisted that a pujari, Mahatmaji, must be bitten by this snake – and that the newly obtained powers of venom removal should be tested, “Otherwise how would you know that you have really learned it?! He was very confident in his skill, but wanted confirmation that the skill was passed correctly. The cobra was looking very dangerous.

He said, “I believe, truly, that I possess the knowledge now. Relax.” And everyone around breathed out and relaxed a bit, especially pujaru; some had thought that experiment was unavoidable.

Bhimnath left, visibly disappointed, but in about 2 or 3 weeks he was passing in front of smashan’s gate on a bicycle and the guards called him – they spotted Raktavanchi, a special type of cobra.

The snake charmers believe that these reptiles are descendants of Takshaka, a snake king, who bit Parikshit, a ruler of Kuru clan from the vedic times…

In Japanese and Chinese mythology Takashaka was known as one of the eight Dragon Kings – and these were the only snakes who could fly, most venomous among all Nagas. Maybe that is how the legends of the flying snakes originated…

…When Bhimnath caught the descendant of the naga king, he made it bite his finger – and came running into the house with cobra in one hand, “Now, when it has bitten me, you have to remove the poison. Go ahead!”

He saw such a type of cobra for the first time: with a red hood, a red tail and the middle of its body yellowish-golden it was wiggling angrily.

He was nervous but tried the mantra and a technique, and it worked. The poison was extracted and Bhimnath drank 50 or100 grams of ghee, calming down the bodily heat… He was greatly satisfied with the result.

One day the workers reported that Ghandiji the bull was bitten. Or at least he had all the symptoms: the bull was unable to get up and stopped eating. The bull was tied in the old pagoda-like structure, which later became a Shiva temple – and this spot was favored by the snakes. Because of his huge body weight, the effect of the poison was progressing much slower, but the animal was obviously unwell.

He tried the mantra … and a huge bull got up almost immediately and soon began to eat again; sick bulls and cows usually refuse the food – that is how the villagers know if they are ill.

AGHOR JAPA

what do You think about famous Aghor mantra: Aghoerbhyo’tha Ghorebhyo Ghora Ghora etc?

Guruji: It is not connected with Aghori: whatever mantra they do - they do it very mysterious and secret, directly from Guru to disciple. These are known mantras – nobody cares about them.

so it is like Namah Shivaya?

Guruji: it is like that: on the fifth face of Shiva, Aghor.

what is the special aim of this mantra?

Guruji: to please Him: so He will look at you and grace you: that is a one point program.

but You have seen Aghoris practicing japa?

Guruji: every Aghori is doing japa, but received from the Guru directly – they never say it loudly: nobody knows what they do.

they use rudraksha mala?

Guruji: mostly.

is it true that bija mantras are like zip archives and when you’re saying it – you’re unpacking mantra to the full version?

Guruji: no, bija mantra is the particular vibration, which can directly connect you with that particular power. I’ve never seen anyone more relaxed than Aghoris: fortunate I came across one or two – genuine ones.

I remember the story when Aghori told You that the Soviet Union will fall

Guruji: yes, in 1985: who would have imagined? It came true within 5 years.

it was only once You saw the alive Aghori?

Guruji: one more time, in a different smashan. Very normal, sweet nature; very relaxed.

he was living directly on smashan – or just came to practice?

Guruji: he had lived there for 2 years- then his Guru called him away. Continuously he was not living there. He was from Dattatreya lineage. There are Gorakhnath’s also – but I’ve never come across.

You talked with this second one?

Guruji: yes – but not so significant.

VISHVAMITRA’S GAYATHRI

Vishwamitra is guilty in killing the brahmins?

Guruji: yes, because sons of Vashishta he killed and never attorned for it.

if Gayatri mantra carries his sin – so somehow person who is practicing it also gets this sin?

Guruji: definitely. And it is specially for Solar dynasty people, not for everybody – as now they are propagating. Every god has different gayatri mantras so we should find it: Google Baba knows everything.

so if nowadays somebody will practice?

Guruji: I’ve seen them suffering. This is a conclusion after many years of observation. Nobody is happy.

even if they are just listening to it?

Guruji: whatever: the impact will be there.

we talked once that most of the mantras are nailed and cursed by Shiva – so now they are not working?

Guruji: this is what we read in books

what about Shakti mantras?

Guruji: all mantras. Not every being are qualified for those mantras. Those, who are qualified – they come to know someone. Because whatever we find in books – I’ve never seen them working. Democracy doesn’t mean that you have access to every knowledge.

for what such books exist?

Guruji: they point us. For those, who knows – they may work. But who knows nothing or beginner – they are useless.

HINDI ALPHABET

can we connect 7 Matrikas with the letters of alphabet – like all of them have their own family?

Guruji: one thing came to my mind – if you brought up the subject; when we write some letters and it has “a” – we can put matra above of it and it becomes “au”.so Matra or Matrika may be connected: it gives the very different appearance to the main alphabet. We can analyse it like that.

they are always depicted with Bhairav, like a couple?

Guruji: Bhairav makes them more powerful – so they are able to express many different things. But it is my hypothesis: we don’t know exactly. Matra – Matrika: if 52 alphabets are connected with Bhairav, then the matras, which are put there to create a different words – they may be connected with Matrikas.

the consciousness of Shiva Ji: with every phoneme it starts to be the material world – from Universes to atoms?

Guruji: every vibration, all vibrations represent this world and that world: because the sound vibration remains the same everywhere. We cannot differentiate it.

is it true that phonemes of alphabet are connected with the certain element; for example from Ka – it’s the Prithvi element?

Guruji: go to the chakras: alphabet is written on them: Vam, Sham, Shham, Sam – it is connected with Earth element. As it is on petals.

if we go by that, Ksha is like everything – like connecting all the elements?

Guruji: after that it is Ksha, Tra, Gya – which is inside your brain. Everything is Kshetragya.

so, the realised yogin, if he creates certain vibration – it vibrates through his chakras; and then?

Guruji: then the powers – the earthly powers: they recognise it.

Then the say: yes, he did it – then his life is done. Because they are in tune with the nature, - nature listens to him.

what about the mantra? It will work on person if his chakras are not developed?

Guruji: whoever; if somebody is developed enough – all Ashta Vasus, those, who are looking after 8 directions; and even the directions will listen to them, land will listen to them – all nature will listen to them. this is how the extraordinary things happen.

if the mantra will be taught to the person without chakras…

Guruji: it will not work: so many mantras are written in books – how many are working? They don’t have enough power even to pronounce it.

Yogis doesn’t have to use any mantra. Whatever he will say – it will go. That used to be the real power of the yogis.

PRACTICE OF JAPA IN KRIYA

what about practice of japa in Kriya yoga?

Guruji: you’re already doing it with every pranayama. The seed of all seeds you’re practicing. That is the bija of all and you don’t need to count it on mala also. Kabir has said the best: kar ka man ka chod ke man ka manka pher: the bead is called “manka”. Man ka – it will be translated “of the mind”. Kar ka man ka chod ke – leave the japa on mala and use the manka of the man( of the mind).

what exact mantra we are using?

Guruji: seed of all seeds.

is it ajapa japa?

Guruji: it is practice of yoga, which is japa; and ajapa also – all goes together.

so the final point is to catch the vibration?

Guruji: final point now – as you stand now – is to open up your mind: so greater knowledge will flow inside. When you will touch one horizon – another you will see. Go on!

NAME OF EXISTENCE

The Russian names sounds strange for me – but I remember voice of every disciple. Voice is recorded. When I’m talking on the phone – you all have witnessed it – nobody has to talk, who is talking. Simply by listening to the voice I knew who is calling.

everyone has own vibration; and every deity has their own mantra, and that mantra is like the body of the deity?

Guruji: it is actually their vibration, sound of the vibration.

so with certain development we can discover our own mantra?

Guruji: why not?

it’s like our own name?

Guruji: no, it’s like our existence.

but it will differ from the name of the spirit?

Guruji: yes.

and if we give that mantra to some other people and they start to chant it – we’ll became like god?

Guruji: maybe, but it’s not a good idea to give. Some telepathical connection, spiritual connection will begin to follow. And if you’re not powerful enough to look after them in their afterlife – then problems continue. If they will chant your mantra – you will have to protect them and support them. If you’re not powerful enough – then you will be in problems.

on what depends the structure of mantra?

Guruji: again – on the vibration, the sound of your vibration. Even now: if they are saying – they are in the good vibes, it means their vibrations are matching. Vibe – vibrations.

what does it mean when the deity has several mantras?

Guruji: all powerful deities has several mantras, not only one. They already evolved to that level that they can create the different forms of themselves and that forms will have different sounds, vibrations – and reasonably different mantras. That will depend.

is it strict rule that hum and phat are destroyers?

Guruji: they are supposed to be powerful things. Average person – if you will do it, you will have some mental problems. They are very powerful, let’s say like a weapon; and if you’re not powerful enough to tolerate that, your vibrations will be disturbed, some problems will begin definitely. That’s why they are powerful deities: they can create such forms with such vibrations.

how the name of the spirit is connected with the vibrations of the body?

Guruji: the spirit is already beyond vibrations. Alakh Niranjan. Vibrations are only in this creation.

beyond the carbon – beyond the vibration???

Guruji: absolute silence. Or maybe something else what we don’t know yet.

when we become friends with our spirit – the vibration of the body will change?

Guruji: they will definitely change. The spirit will feel that changing, when he will feel good vibes – he will become your friend.

OM

about symbol of OM: where it is manifested, where it is unmanifested?

Guruji: it is very easy to explain in Sanskrit: bindu, nada and kala. We see there is a point, then there is a crescent moon, and then the word “u” is written in Sanskrit – all three forms “OM”.bindu is the point, from where the nada is emanating. Crescent moon is the sign of nada. If we will talk in contemporary language – the originator of vibration of creation. Nada is vibration; wherever there is vibration – there is a sound. And then kala: when this vibration becomes condensed – it appears as a visible material creation. The “OM” sign is sign of the creation itself – the beginning and the expansion( extention?)

how this three – bindu, nada and kala becomes the sound OM?

Guruji: the pronunciation will be “um”; then the description is what point it stand for, what this crescent moon stands for and what “u” stands for. It will be called “OM”. When it starts to vibrate – it starts the creation.

and while it vibrating – creation lives?

Guruji: as long as the vibration will continue.

so it is one eternal sound, not like a-u-m?

Guruji: those who are idiots who are saying a-u-m. it is not that. But some people have copyrights on being duraks – so we’re nothing to say on that. The sound is one.

MALINI – SOURCE OF ORIGIN OF MANTRA

“When the matrikas are out of sequence – they become Malini”; some things are added to the alphabet and then changed?

Guruji: That’s the deep thing: combination of different alphabets – that creates a language. That is Malini. It’s the combined effect of them.

So it's not another sequence of the alphabet?

Guruji: No. See: the basis of any language is the alphabet, but the alphabet itself is not a language. We’re able to create so many different combinations of the alphabet, if we called – words, which also have different meanings. That is the beginning of Malini. You can create garlands from vowels – that is Malini. That creates a certain power. Creating a garland, by combining so different of them – it becomes Malini.

So any words in a language are like Malini?

Guruji: It is a part of the big garland. Language is the garland – and they are a part of it.

Is the sequence of Malini fixed?

Guruji: you can do it – it’s up to your creativity. Alphabets will be the same – but unlimited combinations you can create.

So Malini is the unlimited combination that you can create?

Guruji: This is the possibility of the immense combinations of different alphabets. In these things you will never see anything limited. They introduced something – and let it flow; you can go on and on and on.

Is it the origin of all mantras?

Guruji: It is! All alphabets are the origins of coded mantras. What are mantras? Combinations of different vibrations. You need to understand all components – otherwise it’s just a mantra. They are very different. Without language – no mantra.

If we take bija mantras: are they based on Matrikas or Malini?

Guruji: They are based on power, and power is a bija mantra, it’s a seed of everything. Matrikas are the base. Every mantra: without an alphabet – who can create a mantra? And without differentiation of different vibrations of the nada – how can you create the different sound? They are all interconnected and depend on nada. Mantra literally means “mystery”.

I’ve heard that some mantras are based on Matrikas and some on Malini?

Guruji: Whatever – they will be based on alphabets and the sounds. That is the basic form of them. We can elaborate on them – this is Matrika or this is Malini, this malini or that malini…

So Matrikas will be the base?

Guruji: Without a mother who can take birth?

Are they in Sanskrit?

Guruji: It’s just a language: either in Hindi or in Sanskrit – mantra is mantra. Ultimately it’s all abracadabra.

MANTRA

… what I’m not understand: nowhere in puranas or in bible is written that one should not practice yoga. Why they are against it?

Guruji, what is “hum”? it’s some modification of “om”, like bija mantras of different chakras?

Guruji: no, it’s different.

it has the different action than “om”?

Guruji: it’s very powerful mantra and if something will go wrong you will be run naked, mad.

and with “om” – if something will go wrong – you will have no such effects?

Guruji: no guarantee, “om” is even more powerful. It depends how you use it. “hum” is generally connected with Mahavidyas and Shaktis. But I’ve seen not many people doing it. “phat” is using in different rituals to harm someone. “phat” means “turn apart”. When you are doing some ritual to harm somebody – it is used.

what about Hanuman chalisa?

Guruji: Hanuman chalisa is not a mantra, it’s praise.

but everybody are using so much mantras

Guruji: yes, it is confusing program. What is singing – it’s not mantras, it’s bhajans. I’ve never seen any mantra been sung. Only when you’re chanting a certain mantra million times – only then you may catch the sequence and vibration. I think many westerners at first take Hinduism as a play, but I see very bad results coming. You just see one point: most of the hippies are from America begin to sing “Hare Rama, Hare Krishna” and the mostly hippies disappeared. And look at the britishers: they were taking so many statues, spirituals artefacts and religious things to display them in museum in London – suddenly the british empire disappeared. Like that story with mummy: british scientists excavate her – it was Egyptian queen thousands of years old. It was displayed in the London’s museum and many accidents happen. Those archaeologists also died in mysterious way. Then they are realized, that all accidents are connected with this mummy they put it in stone. One American billionaire suddenly wanted this mummy to his private collection. And it was decided to shift the mummy to America on Titanic. This is the real history. Now we know, who sunk the Titanic.

I’ve read many comics – and I will say sometimes comics gave very profound wisdom.

There was something like: “ does really god knows everything?” – “ of course, my son, he knows everything” – “that means, after 20 years, all that I was going to do – god knows it already?” – “yes, yes, my son, he knows” – “ that means if I commit a wrong thing – why I have responsibility? If he knows already – he should stop me” and no answer came from the priest. Maybe we should ask them – they may have some answer. From the business point of view – god created the devil deliberately. If there will be no fear of hell and devil – who will worship god? But I’m ok with devil. Why? Because god created him. And I respect every creation of the god, because we love god( smiling). You know, I’m an expert in disturbing priests.

… the word in Sanskrit and hindi is “akshar” – means without limit, immortal. Simply by realizing alphabet in your chakras maybe the immortality will come.

what does it mean – to realize it?

Guruji: means to experience. Only by experiencing you can realize, not by imagination.

if I close my eyes sitting and imagine – a, b, c

Guruji: it is written in hindi, not in English. So it is my advice to learn hindi.

I have some discussion with one german guy. I understand some words he say and he asked me – do I know german? I say no. he thought I am some kind of KGB agent. And then he asked me to pronounce one german word – I don’t remember it, but it supposed to be very difficult to foreigners. And I did it without any problem. He refuse to believe that I don’t know german. Then I tell him – let me take you one word, even one sound and I want to hear how you say it. It was just one letter from hindi alphabet – rna. He could not pronounce it. 52 types of sounds – so we can create so many different sounds. All languages are coming from here. If you are not able even to pronounce ण how you will be able to awaken your kundalini?

With Sanskrit dictionary we beated many Sanskrit scholars. Every letter has their own meaning as a word. this ण is also an ornament, decision, name of Shiva, house of water, donation, knowledge and nirguna also. And there is no words, starting from this letter. Only the letter has meanings.

You can give any letter from hindi alphabet – every has own meanings.

MANTRA / THE BODY REACHES MIND

for appeasement japa should be mental, for prosperity – in whisper and for magic – aloud?

Guruji: that is valid.

last year we discussed about siddha and susiddha mantras – but before practicing you must do something?

Guruji: whatever was decreed and suggested by your Guru – that much. Thousands and million repetitions is just to catch the real vibration of that mantra.

but most powerful is the mental one?

Guruji: at first you say it, then you go beyond it and begin to whisper, then it start happening in your mind – the degrees of mantra. Suddenly nothing happens. When you’re saying it loudly – you hear it in the same time; it is registering in your mind and your subconscious mind. Finally you can close your mouth and it continues there. they are very powerful and potent things. Sometimes very dangerous also. First you need your body to reach to your mind, when you have reached your mind – you don’t need to use your body again; but what your mind is doing has direct affect to your physical body.

what does it mean – body reached your mind?

Guruji: when you’re saying mantra loudly or practicing your asanas by using your body in your certain way you’re trying to reach out to your mind. Every psychologist knows that your body language is a reflection of your mental state. By creating certain body language you’re trying to understand your mind. Once you have reached your mind – then body will become secondary and mind will take over. To reach our mind we’re using our physical body in a certain way; even saying mantra loudly works the same. I’m talking very openly: all of it will register in your subconscious mind and one day you will understand.

as I understand any mantra trigger some changes in our mind?

Guruji: it will create the very big impression on your whole being.

what will be the impression if mantra is not correct?

Guruji: you can even go mad.

what’s the mechanism of that process?

Guruji: it will attract extreme bad luck. You will suffer physically and mentally. The whole creation is vibrating; if you’re doing some vibration, which are not harmonious to your being – your harmony will break. This is like scientific explanation, but there are many spirits, powerful beings are involved in this: they may become angry and you will suffer.

if the person practicing mantra for many years?

Guruji: only if he received it from the Guru.

ok, but if after many years of practice he will stop to do it?

Guruji: in India it is unheard of. Extreme bad luck and problems will follow.

if the person take mantra from internet and start to practice it?

Guruji: it will never work. Guru’s help is extraordinary and it is needed all the time. You will need protection in the astral world also. Every mantra connects you with the very powerful astral being, and if you just keep calling for that being without proper introduction- some irritation will follow and it may be dangerous.

This is very utopian thought that every spirit is here to help you and no matter what you do – only with the good will they will come to you. When you’re trying to know things beyond life and death – many dangers are there. you have to be very careful.

for what aim mantras are given in the books – even of Gorakhnath and Matsyendranath?

Guruji: only for senior people and for reference only. I’ll tell you – some small piece always go missing.

just to make person interest in it and?

Guruji: no, just for yogis, who knows this – it’s reference books not for beginners. Real books are available on mantras – thousands of mantras are there, even the rituals how to make the mantra work; I’ve read them all – some vital point is always missing. No results will come. and there is no books for beginners in this. Go and search and find a competent man who knows enough – then you learn. All the books on engineering and medical science are available – but simply by reading a book you will not become a doctor. But when you’re admitted to institution – you need to read a books. That’s a difference.

MANTRA VS PRAY

what is the difference between mantra and pray?

Guruji: pray means you’re trying to have something from the god to help you in a certain situation – you’re praying for it. Mantra is for that particular deity, which mantra you’re using.

but people using mantra also to have something?

Guruji: they will have the price also. Nothing comes for free. If devil give you something – he will take your soul. Any god also- for material gains or things. Remember, what is promised in Gita by Krishna himself: if a person is my devotee and a yogi – I take care of him.

I will just ask you a simple question: you’re praying to a supernatural powerful spirit who is sitting on the other side of life and you’re asking for money for this life from that being. How it will react?

no idea

Guruji: he will start playing with you and that will be dangerous. If a contract killer or a person who can hold the power of life and death begin to smile at you – you need to be afraid. Or land in Africa and find some cannibals who’re eating white men and suddenly they look at you and start smiling – you need to run away from there. be very careful, these are not so good things.

if somebody uses mantra not for material things but for some knowledge or supernatural powers?

Guruji: then they will put you through test, whether you’re ready for that knowledge.

what will be the price?

Guruji: they will decide; only the test – you prove that you’re fit enough. It’s a rule.

looking like a game?

Guruji: for them it’s entertainment, but the game will be yours – you will get all the knowledge and wisdom. The only thing is to make them interest in you, teaching you and giving you knowledge – you will have to prove yourself. It will affect only you; for them – it doesn’t matter.

what kind of could be that test?

Guruji: there are no set rules. Whatever will come to their mind – they will test you.

MANTRA FOR LOVE

I’ll give you the mantra for love: Om Premaya Namaha. Even the seed mantra – Prem – is there. Practice it and love will come to you.

if I say Om Premaya Hum Phat – it will destroy love?

Guruji: so many possibilities is there.

before appearing the mantra must have a seed?

Guruji: no, not every mantra has a seed.

seed mantras are more powerful?

Guruji: it depends on the motive and why this mantra was given to you – what you’re trying to achieve with that particular mantra. If you have received the mantra from the Guru – mantra also means a secret; every secret teachings can be called mantras. That will certainly create very good things in your life, life will be better, your confidence will increase – it will become more comfortable. You will be more brave.

if we take seed mantra, which belongs to Krishna – Krim?

Guruji: it belongs to Kali also. It can be a confusion – you will chanting the mantra for Krishna and Kali will come – and what you will do? Just try to imagine – absolute black, big, naked woman appears with the skull garland, blood from cut head in her hand, in another – big sword; how you’re going to react? If she will appear here I don’t think we will remain sitting here. Instead of sitting everybody will be shitting. If you compare – imagine Helen of Troy sitting here with all her diamonds or goddess Lakshmi sitting here with all her jewels and suddenly Kali appears: you will forgot all other goddesses instantly.

is it true that in vedic times mantra “ Om Namah Shivaya” was for Brahmins and “Namah Shivaya” – for all others?

Guruji: Namah Shivaya was for the girls, women.

TO ATTAIN THE STATE OF RISHI

what is “kram”?

Guruji: kram means one by one, in continuation.

it’s connected with yoga practice?

Guruji: no; the right translation will be “sequence”.

what book You suggest to read on tantra?

Guruji: Yogini Hridaya Tantra – it’s the best book on the topic. Commentary is useless, just try to find good translation. If you will read that commentary – your mind will burst. Find a literal translation.

they are talking about Shri Yantra?

Guruji: there are different forms of Shri Yantra. You should read the Sanskrit and the translation – that’s it. The book is one of my favorite. They talk about ten steps of attaining Shri Vidya. All ten mudras are described there.

Yoga started from Adinath, Shiva; and who started the discipline of Shri Vidya?

Guruji: so many people are saying – Shiva is one, Dattatreya is another, Agastya and his wife Lopamudra; Parashurama, Matsyendranath – all are into Shri Vidya.

and who started the discipline, how to attain the state of rishi?

Guruji: instead of Bhargava rishi – you will become a rishi if the mantra will appear to you and the presiding deity of that mantra will remain in contact with that. They are called “ seer of the mantras” - any person, who are able to see a mantra, becomes a rishi. Mantra drashta is the word.

nowadays some rishi exists?

Guruji: nowadays people have very fertile imagination, but those days if mantra will come, and it will be a very potent mantra and rishi will continue to do his tapas for hundreds and thousands of years; then it will be direct connection with the particular god – then his carrier will made after that.

when mantra appeared – they become immortal?

Guruji: I think they become a sort of immortal, because they become very potent force in the astral world.

mantra appeared like a sound, like a person or how?

Guruji: there are so many things: there is mantra as a physical embodiment of mantra; then it’s a particular vedic style of mantra – richa it is called: so the vedic richa is appeared to rishi and connection with the particular god will established. And on his every invocation the god will have to do that.

like a slave?

Guruji: not exactly the slave – but he will do the bidding of the rishi.

because in “Mantra Mahodadhi” the wrote – god will appear like a slave?

Guruji: it must be wrong translation.

god cannot refuse to come?

Guruji: to a rishi – no. but maybe only out of respect. Slave may be your slave but not have any respect to you. If you respectfully agreed to do something – it’s a different principle. If the slave is doing your order – the feeling is different. In here, rishi and god connection is not of slavery.

ALPHABET AND CREATION

52 sounds – and 52 Bhairavas: think about it!

how we can recognize in our body separate functions of prana – that it is exactly apana, this is samana?

Guruji: that will take time. You will know exactly. It always takes time for understanding to develop. A lifetime – several life times.

could we ask You about appearance of the vowels and consonants?

Guruji: that 16 vowels, which appeared from the drum – any language they are there. They are the basic root and the beginning of the imagination. This is creativity: so many languages came out of it.

are these vowels connected with the music?

Guruji: there are only 7 different notes in music – but yes, all are connected. Music is a great thing. You will learn to appreciate sound in a very minute details – in the music. I have noticed: if you have this ability to play any musical instrument very well or to sing- everybody loves to hear it, on parties or any gathering: always some request will come: oh, please, sing a song! This is a divine thing. But many of us sing – and that singing is a big example that singing should not be like this( smiling). Even that is very positive. That’s why in India so many Paramahamsas are here.

what do You think about the theory that the sound A condenses into I and it takes the will power; then it condenses into E and it takes even more will power…

Guruji: the basic material was there – the vibration: the whole creation is vibratory by nature; even all scientists agree to that.

so could we say that all alphabet is the description of the creation?

Guruji: yes, Hindi alphabet or Sanskrit alphabet is a description of the creation.

and materia or matter appears exactly on the consonants?

Guruji: you can say that. We can describe everything and anything. It is like code.

OM OR AUM?

how then we can explain the AUM?

Guruji: I pay my deepest respect to those people who describe Om like this. I’ve no comment on that.

many years back You told us that bija mantra of Shiva Ji is Um?

Guruji: Om is written like this: there is no a and u – that is one thing. But then they tried to explain – those, who don’t understand.

but last year we discovered that another bija mantra of Shiva Ji is Sa; so they both are of the same meaning – or no? Um and Sa?

Guruji: both are the names of Shiva Ji, according to Sanskrit dictionary. The same thing described in the different ways.

this is also very popular concept that a-u-m is Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva?

Guruji: this is human nature: we love to create confusion- then we come forward to say: yes, come to me, I will clear your confusions. That’s how the business begins. You create confusions, then claim: I can clear your confusions!( smiling). It depends on the understanding of that person whoever made this statement.

MOTIVATION

the learning of the science which is save in the memory with words – it’s about books or it’s about our memory?

Guruji: it’s about alphabet which is written on the petals of your chakras. They are different vibrations of the nada and the different vibrations of the elements also. It’s a very deep thing. There are 52 alphabets and there are only 52 cards in a pack. They also carry some great mystery.

Guruji, maybe You know why the letters on the petals of chakras has this sequence?

Guruji: yes, because I’m indian and I know hindi; and alphabet in hindi and Sanskrit – both are same. This is 16 svaras: a, aa, u, uu etc. – they are vishuddha svaras. Then they go down exactly in alphabet order. The last thing is ha, sha, shya,etc in muladhara: then you enter sushumna and came up to top and see chitragya. Hindi alphabet ends with the letters chi, tra, gya. They are coming after entering sushumna – agya and sahasrara. You go down and you come up.

why they starts from vishuddha?

Guruji: that is the source, basic sounds. No matter, what language is there – basic sounds will be always; they are sixteen in number. With damaru they all came out when Shiva started His damaru. It’s fantastic: if you just concentrate on hindi alphabet – your kundalini will be rise. If you remember how they are on petals – you will remember all 52. Main pronunciation is in vowels – they are the basic sounds whatever you pronounce. Then ka starts. If some grammar man will come – he will exactly tell you the position of the tongue and how you will say it. You know how sa is called? Talabhisa. When your tongue is touching teeth – it construct sa. And when you go up – chitragya. That’s why I’m saying: learning hindi is a good idea, learning alphabet, the sequence of it – then it will become very clear for you. Start from vishuddha and go down.

The ability to say it or to perceive it – maybe coming from that point in your spinal cord. That’s how petals were recognized and they were codified with particular sound and alphabet on them.

so words are going up and down in our spinal cord?

Guruji: not up and down – only in that particular point where the petal is supposed to be. Petals – they actually even describing to make us understand, but we create a flower out of it. Maybe the point of resonance of that particular sound is there. That’s why they connect it. Also this thing is maybe in your brain also; so it connects the brain with the spinal cord with the different vibrating note. It is amazing for me to think, how sensitive they may become to actually see that inside themselves.

when we’re saying a certain word – it resonates with the first letter?

Guruji: letter is just a symbol of that sound. But that particular sound, which symbol is represent, - that sound.

how much petals are in sahasrara chakra?

Guruji: 1080. 50 letters are connected in different points there, they are repeated again and again. They’re on top, connecting with the nerves and covering whole nervous system. In chakras there are so much nerve endings which are connected with different body parts. It is like headquarter. The full knowledge and awareness of the awaken which are going on – inside the castle or bungalow which we call “body” or “department”.

when you pronounce a certain sound, first it resonates in chakra?

Guruji: both places at the same time. We use very limited vocabulary, we don’t have the very great understanding of any language which is spoken around. How many people knows languages thoroughly? We just used what is need for a day in life – no more than that. Brain is just sleeping.

from that point of view only 2% is activated?

Guruji: of course if you will practice – you will wake up more.

so it will resonate in the brain and in spinal cord?

Guruji: here and there – that means through out your body also, there are so many channels connecting there. They are like junctions.

when you do japa many-many times it became to vibrate in every cell of the body and the body became like mantra itself?

Guruji: they call this state as “nyasa” when you’re able to soak all the sounds and vibrations through your all system. But very few people have been able to do that. Descriptions are available in many books.

maybe sound of OM is so much inside You that it is physically visible on You?

Guruji: I don’t know. Some signs are by birth. And there is no match of them also. But on the nail they keep appearing when I touch more while initiating. We still haven’t hear about it anywhere – so we cannot draw a parallel and we don’t know exactly, what does it mean. Of coarse I am happy that OM are inside me. But we need to think more on that.

why “phat” is translated as astra?

Guruji: it is astra. If you are able to master it then you can create some big destruction by certain use of this seed mantra. Seed mantras “hum” and “phat” are powerful.

Should we strive to pronounce the Guru mantra with one breath? Is it ok to take multiple breaths before and after practice during that mantra?

A: It is better to hold your breath while you are saying this. It again will give you the effect of pranayams.

WHAT IS

MANTRA

When

you’re doing it mentally – then it will work more.

how it is working?

Guruji: it will create certain different

energy inside you, vibration – you can call it energy also, it will connect you

with the certain sound, that is part of the nada in general – anahada nada; and

that particular nada is emanating from Shiva: direct connection – if you’re

able to catch exact frequency of that mantra.

That’s why

you need to repeat it again and again – so maybe the exact frequency will

appear. Repeat it in the mind. There is a definition of mantra: manana trayate

sa mantra he. If you keep pondering on it

- then the mantra will become potent and it will be the mantra and it

will remove whatever you want to be remove from.

That is

the definition: manana trayate sa mantra- simply by thinking on it it will

release you from most of your problems , whatever your problems or bondages are –

that is called mantra. And another meaning of mantra is secret mystery.

panchkshara mantra requires some recharges?

Guruji: it’s an alive mantra.

but what mantras needs such recharge?

Guruji: we don’t know – so many mantras in

tantras were said: they were put on them- but they were not working.

after recharging not-working mantras could work?

Guruji: who is qualified enough to charge

or recharge the mantra? They will consult another book and do something, according

to the book- it may work it may not work.

My

suggestion is: what your Guru suggest you and guide you – do it.

before we were discussing that Shiva Ji nailed most of the mantras; why?

Guruji: because He was knowing that

humanity is going in the very decadent way. Not many people are worthy enough

or qualified enough to use these mantras.

Humanity

is the most undisciplined community. Just follow a little bit of discipline- He

will be surprised and look at you: oh my god! He is a human and he is

disciplined?!

DIFFERENCE

BETWEEN SPELL AND PRAY

what is the difference between spell and pray?

Guruji: magic spell – you know exactly

what the result will come if you have mastered this spell; the pray is

something you don’t know whether the result will come or not, god will listen

or not listen.

That is

doubtful; but if you have mastered spell – it will work. Who knows the spell is

more confident than the person who just always praying to god, some unknown

person.

The

placebo effect may come with praying. You will feel comfort praying to someone

but he doesn’t do anything – that means he is working in a mysterious way.

Maybe some time after; it will continue to give you the hope for some time.

pray doesn’t give you the possibility to go into the nature of this?

Guruji: who has the motive to go into the

nature of these things? Motive will always remain supreme.

in Gita it is also said that with the time the beliefs becomes stronger – why so?

Guruji: because the habit is forming. If

you are doing same thing for the 10 years time, 20 years time, the habit will

form and you will think – yes, most of things happen because of this. And you

will keep ignoring the fact that whatever you’re desire – your karma also aim

to fulfill that. But you will think because you’re praying this happening.

but if the person is praying and nothing happens…?

Guruji: then god is working in mysterious

way; he is testing you.

in Gita Krishna also is saying: I increasing the faith of that who worships me even indirectly?

Guruji: of course – when you’re praying to

the certain god as the time will pass your faith to this particular god will

increase more and more. And you will keep ignoring Time – the main catalytic

point there. It is there – but it is not there.

so gods doesn’t give anything?

Guruji: they are like agent Smith from

Matrix: they will provide illusion of something.

so when the person pray to god and achieve something – it was not from the god, the time gives him that?

Guruji: we never know – sometimes something

happens mysteriously. Sometimes nothing happens. People are still working on it

– actually what’s happening. He works in the mysterious way.

Time is the giver of any result?

Guruji:

only in time we will receive the result of own efforts. When you’re putting up

some effort – instantly nothing will happen, it will take time: so the Time is

giver of the results.

when you’re put efforts more and more, again and again – but no result comes?

Guruji: then you should analyze your

efforts: maybe it is not up to the level which you must do, maybe you’re not

doing your most excellent effort, there is something wrong in that; - you need

to analyze that also. And also we need to think that there are greater forces,

who shape our destiny, we should also keep that in mind. We’re not the center

of the creation.

IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD AND THE WORD WAS OM

which sounds came first – except OM?

Guruji: first sixteen vowels came first; then we were taught how to use that sounds. And they are applying to every language – not only to Sanskrit.

To be able to understand such a simple thing( smiling) : how much you are able to put together different things and create something interesting. That’s up to you!

how consonants appear after vowels?

Guruji: out of those sounds; they are the base of everything.

and then the first four combine the earth element?

Guruji: no, the last ones! It is coming down. And then again going up – awakening of the Kundalini.

so the letters combine the elements?

Guruji: no, they are just sounds, with which the elements were formed later.

so they are the cause of elements?

Guruji: yes – we can say it, why not?

so the sounds are more powerful than Brahma himself?

Guruji: yes. Brahma is nothing – now nobody is worshipping him. He manipulated those sounds in a different way – that’s why Shiva cut off his fifth head and Shri Krishna withdrawn him. One Russian asked me: why you’re not worshipping the creator? I said: you see, that is the difference between the Hindus and other organized religions: they are worshipping the creator – Hindus are not worshipping the creator. We cannot worship the power who made so many mistakes in creation; you – carry on! He was like a manager – and he was fired. This can happen only in India: that even the creator was fired.

could it be the play of Shiva and Shakti – that they try to find the best creator among thousands of creations?

Guruji: it maybe their entertainment to pass the eternity. There is always a competition – best of the best. You can be a creator also; when?

when my mind will be powerful?

Guruji: take a matchbox, take out one thing and just ignite it: that is creation. Countless of millions of atoms are just started to go to a different directions: it may look like few seconds to you – but eternity is already pass in that particular flame with all its reactions. Think on that! Now we even don’t remember – how many creations were already done. You remember your dream – when I was like a Hulk and the gods were coming out of me?

I’m still wondering what kind of gods they could be…

Guruji: a new kind( smiling)

52 BHAIRAVAS AND 52 SYLLABLES

are these 52 Bairavas which You’ve mentioned in Your comments to Gorakhbodh, connected with the 52 syllables?

Guruji: yes, directly.

so, every Bhairav has his Shakti like Matrika?

Guruji: every Bhairav is a presiding god of that particular sound vibration.

are they connected with the Bhairavas, who are carriers of the Earth?

Guruji: no, they are different.

so, one type of Bhairavas carrying the vibrations and others are carriers of the Earth?

Guruji: only with their grace you will have some great realizations and great wisdom.

the question is: how the yogi could become one of these 52 Bhairavas? If their number is fixed?

Guruji: by finding the exact sound vibration which is absolutely in harmony with his own vibration. He will become one with that.

he will become like one letter?

Guruji: yes; akshar – which means “imperishable”: he will be forever.

his consciousness is merging with the consciousness of that particular sound?

Guruji: that means – being one with the god. It is known in India among the yogis – how to be one with the god; but then we started many different religions, and we all start imaginesome god in heaven – that we will be one with it; but you will be absolutely in tune and one with the particular sound vibration, which is in tune with the spirit’s name and your existence: then – you are one with the god.

but they must have different qualities from the beginning?

Guruji: every sound vibration is special and unique, they all have different qualities – so we will be one with them.

they have different functions or missions – or they just exist like vibration?

Guruji: only collectively they create a whole thing. In any alphabet we cannot say – this is more important, this is less important. But the vowels remain like a base – they are elite.

they considered as an attendants – or friends of Shiva Ji?

Guruji: he created them – he created all sounds. They are all his creation. They were created by the sound of damaru – and every sound is based on them.

who are more powerful – devas or Bhairavas?

Guruji: devas are nothing. They are important only for the human beings. Bhairavas are all about the sound vibration, 52 types of it. Sound vibration is the most potent!

how they are connected with Matrikas then?

Guruji: they all have their own Shakti. Remember, the high-pitch sound can break the glass. You can destroy so many things with a sound. How much we really know about sounds?

does the individual has a deep hidden tendency to be connected with the specific sound?

Guruji: of course! We all love sweet sounds, sweet talks. Who loves bad sound of criticism? We are all expression of 52 types of vibrations. Everyone has particular personal sound. You need to be aware of that and try to be in harmony with that.

so for someone it’s much easier to be connected with the A sound, someone with the I sound?

Guruji: yes, you must find your own tune. We are giving absolutely new wisdom – which is very ancient.

does the name of our own spirit somehow connected with this vibration?

Guruji: it is in harmony with it, yes.

so first we must discover the name?

Guruji: you must to find the harmony.

is it connected with the hearing of the Naad – that someone starts to hear the high sound, someone lower?

Guruji: that is another program; but to find that particular tune- you will be able all the 52 syllables differently, all their sound vibrations! That takes a long time. Very refined practice will take place.

I remember You told us that even the spirit’s name sounds very prolonged in time?

Guruji: it is impossible to pronounce verbally.

maybe Gorakh Bani also must be sing like a melody – not only read like verses?

Guruji: there was one classical singer – he is no more now – he was singing some of Gorakhnath’s sabads. I will tell you one sabad: Bastinam shunya, shunyam na basti by Kumar Gandharv; and the ragas were impossible, I tell you: very different voice quality, very different singing.

Now I will give you one example: there are 7 notes in music, every Indian knows it: Sa, Re,Ga,Ma,Pa,Dha,Ni. I said it – but I’m not the musician; but still I’m able to sing them in the right note. Pronunciation of them: that is the main thing. Simply saying is nothing, that’s the point. It takes so many years just to find the right raag of Sa: it takes years of practice. Exact pronunciation of particular syllable on a special raag: that is the real mantra, not only the grammatical pronunciation.

and the same with pranayama?

Guruji: yes, it takes years of practice to catch the exact note. It always takes time. When you were born; how much time it took you to understand that you were born? Many years! That’s how it happens.

51. KA GROUP AND OTHER WORDS ARE ELEMENTARY HINTS BY WORSHIPPERS OF SHIVA FOR INNATE ONES

Guruji: all these alphabetical things – they are different sound vibrations from one Anahad Naad. Until unless you will understand it – you will never understand the mainly types of Naad also.

why here they started exactly from Ka-varga?

Guruji: this is Sanskrit alphabet: 16 anusvaras – they are not considered as alphabet. Alphabet begins with Ka. Ka, kha, ga, gha, na; ca, cha, ja, jha,na – they are simple to learn and remember. Vowels are swaras – they are everywhere: a,aa, I,ii, u,uu – you will find them in every language on this planet. Even animals use them.

RAM RAM

Ram-Ram was found on her bone. I have a disciple – Surender Chawla; Mrs. Tehri is his elder sister and they are his nephews.

Her mother was given by some sadhu or holy man when she was 5 years old: daughter, you should remember Ram-Ram inside- and she started doing that.

She grew up, she got married, she had children – but this thing was continuously inside her. And then as the villagers say she lost her mind and was found talking with someone invisible; and people were saying that she lost her insanity. She also came here to see me in maybe 93 or 94 – very serene and saintly lady.

Then she died. In India that is a procedure to cremate – then on third day you go to pick up the bones and you collect the bones and you washed them with the water and milk and then you put them in the Ganges. When they picking her cremated bones, her forehead bone was found intact. And on that bone the Ram-Ram were written in 4 languages – as if you right by nail on the wet cement or something: the languages were Hindi, Urdu, English and there was one south Indian language that they couldn’t recognize that time. It’s a great miracle – and it also confirmed that hindu beliefs are valid. I’m very happy it happen with my disciple’s mother.

And another case is from Gwalior – I have a disciple there, Mahendr Singh Sangar; his father, Jagran Singh Sangar was very stern and like an army man and his forehead was shine.

He also coming to visit me very regularly but he never practiced yoga. He died one day and then same thing happened – after cremation then they were picking the bones – Ram mantra was found exactly that way on the forehead bone. And that mantra was: Om Ram Ramaye Namaha. And I will ask him – I think they have photograph of that bone. I’m happy it happened with my disciples.

We kept it quiet – otherwise it will be all over newspapers; because then the controversy may begin – some people that is fake, they are just trying to become famous; unnecessary criticism will come so we kept it quiet. But we were know it for fact. It strengthen our faith – which was already strong but now became even more strong.

why very often in the books they are saying when teacher is giving mantra to his disciple – nobody should be around in a big distance?

Guruji: so no vayu will go in anyone’s nose from Guru’s mouth.

why for different mantras different distances?

Guruji: the way it is said – the different forces of vayu will also come into play. That is the technical aspect.

We believe that Creator writes something on the forehead, your whole destiny. And this simple things that Ram-Ram was found of these individual’s foreheads: that means whatever Creator written – it was erased by the grace of Rama and they got liberating. It proves that!

that’s why Namah Shivaya is called aghora mantra?

Guruji: no, there is another aghora mantra. But it’s just like worshipping the footsteps left behind by someone; better to get up and go somewhere ourselves. Do I looking like aghori? Maybe someone will think so – wearing black with the black tilak on my forehead- but then aghor is looking good( smiling)

what is another aghora mantra – or there are many?

Guruji: no, one is main: Aghorebhyo Ghorebhyo Ghor… that one. But I don’t think many aghoris may have such living conditions on smashan. Grace of Shiva and Adi Shakti!

Whoever will be very close to Shiva – he will be powerful.

Such mantras are carrying certain message and even mystery there: simply by repeating them nothing will happen.

but the structure and words of that mantra are true – or that is some mistake there?

Guruji: maybe – when you write something down some mistake is going to happen, always.

and that mantra is for invoking Shiva for aghoris?

Guruji: Aghor face: Shiva has five heads – Tatpurusha, Sadyojata, Vamadeva, Ishana and Aghora. Aghor is the most beautiful and the most awaken – who lives in smashan. That maybe to invoke him or jut trying to please him.

but there are two mantras…

Guruji: there are two mantras, connected to Prithivi Namaskar. The first one is “ OM PRITHIVYAEE NAMAHA” and second one is “ OM BHOODEVIYAEE NAMAHA” – both are directed to the Mother Earth. And in every position of Prithivi Namaskar you will have to say these mantras loudly. And saying these mantras loudly starts reaction in the certain way in your breathing, which has a direct effect on your pranic force and your mentally stability and your mind begins to open up. And I think whoever is doing it within one Prithvi Namaskar his mentally state will become very calm and quiet and very different. And physically he will become very strong.

HEART OF MANTRA

what is the technology of the work of mantras? It connected with the vibrations?

Guruji: exactly. Mantra is a vibration.

could we say that mantra is using some special frequency of vibration and this special frequency put you on some other level of consciousness or in some state?

Guruji: it depends on the mantra: if it is connected with some deity, if you get the vibration right – some connection will start.

is it the invocation of the spirit of that deity?

Guruji: the deity himself!

what about bija mantras: are they like a base for common mantras?

Guruji: bija mantras are Hindi alphabet with the point on top. Every syllable in our alphabet is a bija mantra.

it exist the type of mantras which are consists of several bija mantras?

Guruji: they are 52: then there are untold of combinations of them.

maybe mantras are make the deities to existence to the being?

Guruji: they are already exist; and we’re given the sort of mobile number: if you dial it right with the proper instrument – you will have connection

what was the first: the vibration of the bija mantra or the deity?

Guruji: all 52 sounds together forms OM

what is the base of bija mantras: OM or AUM?

Guruji: there are two versions in Sanskrit: AUM is for those who don’t know Hindi(smiling). And there is a syllable U: you put a point on top of it – that becomes OM. That is the main. Aum is nothing. How this idea started? Have you heard the lion roaring? He say: Aaauuumm, listen to him( laughing): maybe people connected that.

and the sound itself is OM or it is audible like Aum?

Guruji: every Russian know what you call your mind; that is exact pronunciation.

so even in our practice…

Guruji: yes, it sounds like your mind: that’s why it develops your mind

OUR MANTRA

Q: And about the mantra, which we recite during the practice – Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; why do we use this particular mantra?

Guruji: Only Paramahamsas are supposed to use this mantra for the practice.

I have not come across any other organization or Vaishnav ’ s sampradaya who initiated this mantra. If we look into the Sanskrit dictionary – the word “ vasu” means “ jivatma” . That is to invoke your own jivatma, which resides in the heart. Your jivatma is your devata, your god; so this implies to that. Also “ Vasudeva” literally means “ the son of Vasudeva ” , it is Krishna ’ s name as all the krishnaites are saying. For the yogis it is Vasudeva: your jivatma, your immortal spirit inside you. You can consult any Sanskrit dictionary, look for the word “ vasu” – and you will see the meaning of it.

Was this mantra given to you by your teacher?

Guruji: Yes, it goes into the lineage. And they say – it can be done only if you rise above the effects of your karma. So any person, who is practicing it simply by reading about this mantra in some books – because it ’ s a very commonly known mantra – but without khechari mudra, will not succeed. If you do it, it will shake up your life.

Technically speaking, the movement of prana and the breath, when the syllables of mantra are placed throughout a torso and a heart, through the chakras – people often come to a wrong conclusion about piercing the chakras…

Guruji: See, jivatma is felt with the movement of the prana. These are special junctions of the prana, where prana has some different types of activities. Those levels are the keys to open that particular lock; that ’ s why they are used in a certain place in a certain way.

Khechari is an important part, because our Gurus say: as long as the tongue continues to remain in khechari mudra – you will remain beyond the karmic effect of all your past karmas for the duration of that time. When you have gone beyond karma – only then this mantra can be done. It is a yogic mantra – and it will remain yogic.

BIJA MANTRAS

And what about the protective mantra which we are often reciting: “Om Shailendra vidmahe…”?

Guruji: Yes, it works.

You also elaborated on the famous mantra Om Tat Sat in your commentaries to Gita – so it’s covered; but I want to ask you about bija mantras: so-ham, sauh . Which is a bija mantra of hridaya, sauh?

Guruji: So-ham . There is a famous saying in Hindi that a person with a very good heart is called su-hridaya.

And so the syllable SU comes into the heart – if SU is established there, one will become a person with a very good heart – because he will realize that Vasudeva is present there. And when realization comes – then, of course, such awareness will change everything: your life, your being will become very different.

Such a mantra is never given or practiced by itself, right?

Guruji: Sometimes they are given in a certain way.

In what lineage?

Guruji: Not exactly in a lineage, but they are given for those who are already deep into the subject – sometimes they practice bija mantras.

If you ’ re going deeper – to the petals of the chakras – all bija mantras are present there. And so, if you ’ re trying to understand the vibration of a certain petal by doing that particular seed mantra and finally you will catch the real vibration, coming from the sound of OM – that will take you far. But if those bija mantras are practiced just for some worldly reasons – then the results will not be so good.

Same with the so-ham ?

Guruji: So-ham is the seed mantra of the breath, which we keep repeating. If you become aware of it – then, of course, you will go very deep in your own self, in the ocean of consciousness.

You will dive deep – and that is recommended, yes. Practicing those bija mantras without any real purpose will be like trying to ignite a little fire using an atomic bomb instead of a matchbox.

Have you met people who actually mastered those bija mantras in their sadhana?

Guruji: Sadly, I’ve never come across such people. But I am very optimistic – there must be such people. They usually don’t like to appear in public. They keep away.

Mantra Mantra The definition of mantra which we read in Sanskrit books They define mantra as Mananat Traite Sam Mantra Manan means Pondering When you ponder on anything It will remove your confusion and sorrow That is mantra Another meaning of the word mantra is a very deep secret, mystery. So every mantra carries a very deep secret. We should keep that in mind. Thank you.

. Read one chapter of Gita everyday loudly. Remember because Arjuna heard the Gita directly from Krishna within 18 days, all his enemies were dead and he recovered all his lost property. I noticed over the last 25 years, that if somebody is reading Gita every day, his enemies disappear. If they are strong enemies they will die, if they are not so big enemies, then they will become friends. Reading Gita is very important. And also by simply reading it aloud you will remove all the negative things from your life, and life will become more peaceful, more prosperous. Just do that, and everything will be taken care of. I have never seen a man or a woman who is reading Gita suffering. When I first came here and became the owner of this big property, many local people were creating problems. I don’t even remember their faces and names, but 160 people are dead. I was just reading Gita. And then I realized, that there is some connection, so I stopped going to talk to them or seeing them. I don’t want to create unnecessary trouble, so I stayed inside most of the time. Yoga is a very powerful practice, and you are being taught what is described in Gita itself.

Q: what about three parts of “OM”?

Guruji: A-U-M. when you will actually separate it: you see, Kundalini is 3,5. Om is 3,5. A,U,M and that matra on top. It is three and a half. It goes alone with three and half. And every man – how much it is? 3,5 ( from elbow to fingers). And the Russian “ум” is much nearer for the real pronunciation. It can not be coincidence that the mind is “YM” and the “om” is “aum”. This upanishada is disappointment.

I will say that original upanishadas are less than 20. Then in the medieval time so many texts were written with the name of upanishadas and were added.

Q: in what age we can bring our children to Guru?

Guruji: anytime, but for initiation you must wait them to be teenagers.

Q: which mantras are more preferable?

Guruji: my protection mantra, Om Namah Shivaya, Hara Hara Mahadeva Shambhu… not Hare Rama Hare Krishna. You have to be careful with it.

Q: why?

Guruji: they are create the different type of vibration and something happens. Prasad is carrying vibrations.

Which mantra is more suitable — sadaskshara or panchakshara?

Guruji: Now Shiva is panchakshari, yes. Hindus have fashion to put Om in front of everything. Just a cultural kick.

And in the beginning was the word. It is described in India also. We say in the beginning was the word Om, and all languages have come out of it.

It is, they say, the mother of all sounds, or father of all sounds.

So what is written in the Bible is true: In the beginning was the word, and the word was God.

So if you just listen to the word and will ponder and have to go into the deeper meaning of the word, you will start to become a wise person.