After death: the air body, heaven, hell and the astral world

Sh: You will understand the importance of pranayama then. ‘Vaayu Shareer’ (?) is the body made of air. So the more pranayamas you will do, the more condense it will become. And it will gain force after that. The person who is not doing pranayama appears distorted, horrible looking ghost. Because he has never done any pranayama in his life, so his air body is not perfect. But when you are practicing yoga, practicing Kumbhak, different types of pranayamas that air body become very solid, condensed and powerful.

Q: But does it have also its resource, can it die out of other age overtime?

Sh: As long as there will be element air on earth, it will not die.

Q: And can it take birth once more?

Sh: Yes, why not?

Q: But then it will lose its identity, it will erase the memory.

Sh: If it is a Yogi’s body then it will not lose its identity.

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I saw some spirits doing meditation and chanting their certain mantras ; it was a surprise to me because I never knew it before. Even in my premises three or four spirits were just doing their penance continuously. My lawyer — I saw his uncle sitting there and he was dead already. So, if you have a confident guru and you are very much into that practice in your physical life then even if you pass on, you continue with that. And there it is much better on the other side because you don’t have to get a break, you don’t have to eat anything so you can continue. In the real body we have to adjust to so many things.

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You said that such people reach the very high position in astral world – but it’s temporary or forever?

Guruji: for a very long time. And after that they will start from the very different level.

Human beings are extremely selfish people: sometimes it is very necessary lesson that to save others may be more important than saving yourself. We need to learn this lesson also.

“I AM”, EVEN AFTER DEATH - I EXIST!

in Gita they are saying: using the body – it’s interconnection between prana and prana, consciousness and consciousness?

Guruji: yes; and see: body is important! It tells the eternal things – that particular frame of Time; and if something is giving that - it must be very mysterious also. Body is very mystical thing. So we need to study it at the same time.

when our consciousness is developed and it is going to some subtle worlds: that subtle worlds are feeling like material for that consciousness?

Guruji: for them it is material, solid.

but it’s another feeling of the feelings and perception?

Guruji: of course. When you have 10 billion dollars bank account and you’re lying naked on the beach, sunbathing yourself; and then there is another bankrupt man, everything has been taken from him – he is also lying naked on the beach; same situation – but the feelings will be different. That brings us to another interesting conclusion: only after becoming bankrupt you actually realize the true value of money( laughing)

but it’s still big difference between bankrupt and poor man?

Guruji: of course – bankrupt is more shocking.

what is the eternity after death?

Guruji: that is a short-lived eternity, because you will have a glimpse of eternity. Then some ether spirits will just take you, then judge you by your karmas and provide you with another birth.

it exists the feeling that “I am” after?

Guruji: of course, it will continue. That is perfect feeling of “I am”: oh my god, I’m dead – but still I am! That is great.

There is very big population there. We’re not going directly to god or some big beings.

are they connected with the family?

Guruji: usually they are. Society will never leave you alone, even there .

when the Europeans or Russians are coming here to India?

Guruji: society is society. We’re living in a space – we all are earthlings. We are all sharing this breathing space.

is it easy to change the nation, where you were born? For example for a Russian – to take new birth in India?

Guruji: you borrow some money from some Indian, and don’t return it: you will take birth in India to pay back. Simple method( laughing)

it’s common belief among Russian disciples, that maybe not in a past life – but 2 or 3 lives back they were Indians?

Guruji: I feel that also, yes. You think it is just by chance you’re sitting here discussing these things? It’s not by chance, it’s important thing.

why so?

Guruji: so we can share our information, share some wisdom.

VERY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION OF GITA

8 CHAPTER 16 SHLOKA

(*** see the sloka at the end)

You heard this question maybe thousands of times; one of the most striking descriptions You give in Your commentaries to Bhagavad Gita regarding the state right after death, after leaving the body: You describing the symptoms and conditions; I have to ask You – was it relevant to Your state of Samadhi experience?

Guruji: I became aware of it first time went into Samadhi

sometimes when people die and they are exposed to long oxygen deprivation, they experienced similar states; You feel that You detaching from the body...

Guruji: yes

...but You still have very strong sense of self?

Guruji: that remains, yes

I have to ask timewise: You gave the description already after Your state of Samadhi became regular?

Guruji: yes, the second phase started and I have gone through few months of that, maybe more; - then I gave this description. I thought it was needed in Gita

absolutely! It gives the profound explanation, what each one of us – yogi or non-yogi will experience when his soul is withdrawn from the envelope. I have to ask another thing here: how long this condition lasted: whether it became tolerable or it’s recurrent condition every time?

Guruji: it happens every time and then you become used to it. Only after you’re becoming used to it you start to appreciate the fineness of it and begin to be aware of a different aspect of it. Suddenly, few times you will understand – the sound and the light

I know this is an intellectual exercise – trying to understand that – but I think we will have the glimpses of how the process goes

Guruji: this is the very serious thing, because everybody is going to face it some day

it’s understandable, why it settles the state of panic: you’re leaving your shelter

Guruji: that’s true. Whole life we have feeling of our being real and suddenly we are out of it, where is no body: that creates big panic

You described the biggest problem for the spirit is an absence of house – place, they can call home; is it the samskara of the lost body?

Guruji: I think so, yes

You also described the fear, which You experienced several times, till settle after the series of samadhi?

Guruji: yes

why every time travelling from body to body the fear is still there?

Guruji: if fear is not there – everybody would love to leave the body and jump into the astral. So its instinct is special.

I don’t understand that: why would they like to leave the body and jump into the astral if the samskara of possessing the property and that is valuable real estate? As we know, everything happens because of the real estate?

Guruji: every child would like to run away from the school.

why?

Guruji: you need to learn, and teacher is there to reprimand, to discipline you: nobody loves it.

so this fear, if it’s on physiological level, or on a mental level?

Guruji: it is body’s mechanism for security.

once it’s withdrawn from the body, you already there: and still no recognition of the sound and the light?

Guruji: no, for this you need to go through yoga: you will not remember your previous experience. Because nobody tries to acquire it!

we want to erase this completely?

Guruji: it is always erased , because we try to avoid everything what we fear.

so the fear will have to bring you back to the body?

Guruji: no. Somebody up there, they are more knowledgeable, they will assess your karma and they will plan and they have time for you; they will erase the memory and resend you back. The memory is specially erased.

basically You describing two possibilities: you have to acknowledge and recognised that you’re part of that; then after sometime again this recognition have to appear? And then you have a chance to merge with this?

Guruji: you have the chance to merge; otherwise – again, by your reaction: another destiny is waiting.

based on that reaction?

Guruji: always, it is all our reactions. Your destiny is waiting: multiple destinies are.

only because of mostly all of the souls turning away in fear, but destinies are different: the fear is the same – destinies are different?

Guruji: you see, when person is running away from something in fear, he is most likely to injure himself. Because he lost his balance of mind and he is so afraid – he doesn’t know what to do and what not to do. Most of the people I see: they injured themselves out of their own fear. So fear is the biggest hinderance of everything.

this is as repetitive pattern: return to the new body based on decision; but repetitive patterns are also hurtful: if you live life after life, sometime making same mistakes?

Guruji: it continues till you somehow come to some senses. In a good company you begin to realise that there is something greater than your fear of death. So the churning goes on, perpetual action.

and then the cookie crumbles

Guruji: I like this: when the camel is trying to sit down – nobody knows on which side he will sit. This is about life.

So-called enlighten beings: if the die at the age of 80 years, 90 years: what wisdom they have missed?

probably they missed the experience of living without karmas – if they prolonged?

Guruji: they missed a wisdom of living for a thousands years, how it will feel? That means we cannot call them enlighten. The new thought came to live.

8 CHAPTER 16 SHLOKA

Oh Arjuna! All the worlds including Brahma-Loka are reiterative, but, oh Kounteya! There is no rebirth after attaining Me.

Exposition - All souls in this universe are reborn again and again until they know the essence of the indestructible Brahman, the consciousness of Time. Having known it once, the soul no longer accepts birth and is not limited to the body.

Further, especially for people who have not practiced yoga and have not been able to cognize the dazzling radiance of Time, a description of some states that follow shortly after death is given. If an ordinary person, knowing about these conditions, will be able to maintain fearlessness at the time of death, he will also be freed from the bonds of birth.

At the moment of death, when breathing slows down, at the same time as the fear of death, a feeling of lightness arises. When the heart stops, a very strong feeling of dizziness appears, and sounds similar to whistling, rumble or ringing bells are heard. At this time, the consciousness of the dying person leaves the body. Depending on the individual level of spirituality, a sense of dizziness can last from several moments to three -four days.

During the period when consciousness leaves the physical body, a person receives a short-term experience of perceiving the great radiance of Time. Without having such an experience in the past, ordinary people are frightened. This short-term experience is similar to if a person who was locked in a dark room for a long time, and suddenly brought out into bright sunlight. If this experience does not confuse a person and he remembers that it was this great Radiance that created his physical body, as well as the whole world, then a person has a chance to merge with It. If, at the sight of this terrible radiance, an person is frightened and tries to hide from it, then the radiance will immediately disappear, and the person will find himself outside of body. At this time, his consciousness, having lost the support of the body, experiences a feeling of emptiness. Until this moment, a person does not realize that he has died. He sees his loved ones, tries to talk to them, but no one hears him.

All his attempts are fruitless. Looking at the funeral ceremony and a last rights held over his body, he gradually begins to realize that he has already died. In this moment, and sometimes earlier, he sees the Supreme Radiance again. This time, the Radiance resembles a pure flickering light in the form of a huge dazzling golden circle with a center of dark blue color. It is a direct vision of the consciousness of the Void. Looking at this great Light, a dead person hears the sounds of "Anahadaa nada" coming from the center of the circle.

These sounds similar to the roar of thunder which is coming simultaneously from a thousand clouds. If a person is not frightened and can maintain a firm conviction: "This is my form. It was this radiance that manifested my consciousness," - then he will be able to connect with the Radiance and free himself from the agonizing obligation of being born again. Those who are frightened by this experience are sent to heaven or hell, according to their level of consciousness. They remain in bonds that force them to be born again and again. Yogis acquire this experience during their lifetime, being in a physical body, so they are not afraid of death. Through death, the yogi is united with the Light of all light, the radiance of Time.

SATVAGUNA – FINAL STAGE?

All humans are in Raja Guna as long as they continue to occupy their physical bodies. But what happens when the body is no more? Does physical death automatically guarantee a transfer to a “sattvic” state. What is Sattvic then?

When the consciousness has gone beyond the limits of the physical body Sattvic state . In samadhi, even while alive, a yogi moves beyond Raja Guna. Then he has a glimpse of what Sattva Guna can be. And then the mind starts to change.

Some ghosts continue to suffer even in the air bodies due to the karmic impacts that they received and produced when they were alive.

The kleshas and samskaras will follow everyone into the astral world. A history of individual exposures to the world will follow the soul, unerasable, unchangeable, moulded in the past. People call it past experiences. But these are just the results of exposure to the world .

However, the sattvic state is possible only outside of the physical boundaries. Or in samadhi, when a un-dead body of a yogin acts as inert sperm, buried in the giant ova of the earth.

When She will take over, new transformation will take place, and the yogin will be reborn in the likeness of his true Parents. Then he will face his true father, the Creator; this meeting could take place only after probable transformation.

And yet, there was no certain guarantee that the jivatma and the mind of the departed would automatically transfer into astate of Sattva in the astral world.There is more work

All humans have already overcome the tama guna – simply by taking birth, transformed from a sperm to a living being, and established in the world. And very few, advanced enough to understand the mechanism of creation of the body, the essence of it, are ready move to the next phase, Sattva guna.

By becoming inert in the state of Samadhi, yogi is uniting with the Mother Earth – and then transformation begins.

All souls – the consciousness, which left the dead body – attach themselves to the element of the air – and become a Vayu Shari. In this form they will continue to practice (if they had previous yogic experience) to develop the level of their consciousness. These sould will discover mysteries of creation, secrets of the universe, essence of life and death; they will learn the nature of the divinity, identity of the gods, will understand the concepts behind heaven and hell.

But to establish themselves in Sattva guna, they will have to take birth again, to come to the earthly plane, to go through raja guna – to finally reach the level of evolution when they can make themselves inert and unite with the earth.

Then the final transformation will happen and then Mother will introduce them to the Father. The soul has to graduate, to undergo transformative evolution of the mind.

K: So what kind of state the souls are in when they already left the physical body and exist in the form of Vayu Shari.

G: There are two elements there, vayu and akash – and the consciousness dwells in them, in-between the transformative states. After it underwent the death of the physical body and before it took birth in the form again.

If you are intelligent enough and have been working for the progress, you will get immense wisdom and knowledge in the state of Vayu Sharir. And you may choose to always remain with the Mother, without undergoing future transformations into embodied state. (I think we have also discussed this.) So that decision will be yours, if you have reached a certain level.

K: Could only those individuals , who obtained the higher wisdom make the decision to come back again, to be born in the human body – to be born in the sattvic state?

G: Of course. Not exactly a sattvic state but in an evolved state. But if you ask me personally, I would love to remain with the Mother. Within a physical body of five elementals.

A true devotee actually deserves liberation, because he wants to remain as a devotee forever. I think it is better to remain with the Mother because Mother takes care of you.

K: There is no such thing as a pure sattvic state then.

G: Not in my opinion.

K: Everything is of a mixed nature.

G: Yes, or you can say that as long as the blood is flowing through the body, there can be no sattvic state. So when you have gone beyond the blood – then maybe.

K: Is it just because the blood is a karmic carrier?

G: Blood is a part of a transformative master plan of development Raja Guna – and that is why blood is called Raj; blood is a condition of existence in the state of Raja Guna. Blood is actually representing Raj.

So maybe only the trees are pure and sattvic. There’s no blood in there, they are connected with the Mother. That’s why in the land of Braj every tree is considered a saint; it is believed that the holy ascetics are doing their tapas in the forms of the trees. I am beginning to believe in that.

K: What is the blood of the Mother Earth then?

G: Maybe all the water is Her blood.

PRACTICE AFTER DEATH

When I first took this place from the Bharatpur king – everything was ruined, this house was broken, the place was horrible and haunted. There is a plot behind the kunda – about 1 acre. Here was also a lot of ghosts and spirits which were running away from me. When I went to that area – I saw probably 4 or 5 spirits; they were not actually ghosts – they were doing japa in a very small rooms and they not run away from me. It was the first time I actually discovered that even after death if you’re dyeing in a very potent spiritual place or you have been initiated to lineage – even after death you will continue to do what you have started to do. I didn’t disturb them, they were there, even after so many years passed – they were doing their own thing. Then when my lawyer came into my contact and I described him the spirits – it turned out that it was the uncle of my lawyer. He was the very great devotee of Radhaji and he was initiated by some saint. When he died – he was found dead, sitting erect, taking support from the back with pillow and his mala of chanting was in his hand. His death was also very special. When we started the plantation begin to clean, he appeared in front of my lawyer and said: whatever you’re doing in the order of Guruji is the most needed thing for this area, I’m extremely happy and now I’m moving to Radhakund to do my bhajan. That is the story of uncle of my lawyer. It also tells me that any potent spiritual place in India – there are 7 places like that – if you died there then something really happen with the spirit of the dead person. If he is a real good person or initiated in a real lineage – then he will continue these things, even after his physical body will be no longer there. I’ve seen it yet.

Ghosts, spirits, astral world

For thousands if years many philosophers or religious people were asking – who is a man? What is a man? And so far so many hypothesis have been put forward, no conclusions has been reached. But as a simple man I will just say that future ghost is the man, because we are all going to become ghosts.

why you said that the spirit became much more powerful if he can stay in astral world for a very long time?

Guruji: the main problem with us is what? We can not stay as long as we like here and we can not stay as long as we like there. Stability is the name of the game – either here or there.

from what this stability depends?

Guruji: it depends if your mind is stable – only then you will find stability; that’s why in yoga so much focus is on stabilize your mind.

so when the ordinary person dies – who decide, when he will take another birth?

in Christianity if the person was born with 666 on his body it is considered as the sign of devil

Guruji: but from the yogic point of view it’s a good sign. After discussions on religion – usually heavy depression is follow. And if you read it carefully – everybody is guaranteed go to hell. No way out of that. But for cold countries you should be in good turn with the devil. He will always provide you fire to survive in cold.

but in Garuda Purana the good conditions are only for the yogis?

Guruji: only. One of the best books I’ve read. See the imagination: first some scorpions would put somewhere, then you will be hooked like a fish – and the scorpions will continue to bite you in all wonderful places – on all the way to hell there is too much pain.

but how they could make pain for the vayu sharira – the astral body? It’s painful only for the mind?

Guruji: the vayu is also an element. Gross element. That’s why the yogis are stand alone – because they can control the mind. Much more than every person.

hell is like a bad dream – but you can not escape from it?

Guruji: yes. Then you should be in the situation - bad dream will try to run away from you and can not escape. That is the real situation.

For us, Indians, hell is like minus fifty degrees without clothes. That is the real hell. Not a fire.

so if yogi is practicing in vayu sharir – his chakras is not developed or start develop?

Guruji: he will have to go into vayu sharir if the chakras are not fully developed. There are many reasons: some yogis may come for a certain period, especially by Guru’s order or Shiva’s order: they will live and never come back. That is Shiva will decide or Dattatreya will decide. Great plan is always moving forward.

what is the reason for the yogi to form the perfect vayu sharir?

Guruji: many tried – but few succeeds: not everybody can suddenly become immortal. Or not everybody could suddenly reach climax of the yoga practice. It takes very hard work persistent work for many- many years, a big time frame is needed. So if your karmas are not supporting you for this work and you die before achieving this – at least you will have the very strong vayu sharir and you will continue to try to achieve what you set out to do. That’s why vayu sharir is extremely important: it is as good as a gross body.

if we take a ghost: they have no physical body – so they are in sattva guna?

Guruji: no, they are products of rajoguna. That’s why here we believe all trees are saints.

I’m giving very different observation: generally speaking, what they are describe in tamoguna – too much laziness, sleep – these properties are connected; but I’m giving very different observation.

in whole creation, all the cells which carrying the possibility of life – they are in tamoguna?

Guruji: they maybe, yes. They are in the dark.

how to understand in which guna we will be when we will have no more physical body?

Guruji: beyond three gunas.

what about the ghosts?

Guruji: they have vayu sharira, so they are not beyond the elements. As long as they have the touch of five elements – you’re under influence of gunas.

ghost of the human will remain in rajoguna?

Guruji: whatever his mental level will be – he will remain in that; rajoguna will continue: vayu sharira is just a replica of all 5 elements.

so sattva guna is available only for the trees?

Guruji: or pure spirits.

the trees also have that pure spirits?

Guruji: yes.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE DISCIPLES AFTER DEATH

what is the future of deceased disciples who were not taking new births?

Guruji: very bright future.

they will practice till eternity?

Guruji: oh, they will live a life – practice is part of that. It’s much better than we can perceive in physical bodies. They are able to perceive the divinity of this area and all those divine vibrations of Krishna’s queens cremation and Uddhav living here; it’s a direct connection with Golok as well. And they are able to see that. We just imagine that they might be only sitting and thinking; this is part of the life. They are seeing life from a very different point of view.

how they perceive the time? One year like our 10 years – or vice versa?

Guruji: their sense of time is absolutely different: very long periods of time they just passed easily.

they enjoy seasons?

Guruji: they like it because the surroundings changes; but they don’t feel much.

is this some job for them here?

Guruji: the most difficult job: remain happy. Toughest thing in the world. Remain happy – is the most difficult thing: they have this job.

they communicate with You?

Guruji: yes, many times.

asking of Your opinion or suggestion?

Guruji: no, they give their opinion also. And I also give them opinion from time to time( smiling)

they have some opportunities or variations in their way?

Guruji: their destiny is fixed.

and what about guardians?

Guruji: they are special, provided by Balaji.

what shape they have?

Guruji: mostly human.

so if sometimes we perceive someone not a human shape it’s a play of our perception – or this rule has an exceptions also?

Guruji: there are exceptions; but generally they are human-shaped.

after death there are a lot of communities?

Guruji: even on mundane plan there are so many different varieties: more varieties are waiting there. So, remember what I keep saying: after Apocalypse what will remain? Ghosts and spirits have remain. What is the man? A future ghost is the man. We will all become ghosts – what’s the problem? But better to become a powerful one( smiling)

if we take all the disciples living there: all of them have very well-developed vayu sharir?

Guruji: yes, I’m sure about it. In fact, it is only we who are talking about very strong and condensed vayu sharir. This talk you will never hear anywhere. They just go to the cleaning of the nadis – and that’s the end of the story. We’ve gone quite a bit further than that.

so You can easily see the practice of the person?

Guruji: his face will be different. Person who is practicing higher – his face will change. Mind is different; his questions will be different, his answers will be different, his all personality will be different.

so in astral seeing vayu sharir you can say whether it is yogi or not?

Guruji: if it is complete – it’s a yogi, yogi’s body; if it is incomplete -….

you cannot cheat there?

Guruji: no.

it exists some exceptions – like Anandamayi Ma, when the vayu sharir is already developed?

Guruji: she was born accomplished person. She was full of divinity. One upadesh from her changed my life: that is a power of divinity behind. Such great people are always exceptions: we cannot categorize them or analyse them. that was good luck: listen this thing directly from her: karoge to hogi!

if the spirit has no body – he has the consciousness?

Guruji: of their own. Even vampires and werewolves have consciousness.

so it exists the consciousness of the body and the consciousness of the spirit, which is separate?

Guruji: same thing like my consciousness is different, his consciousness is different – it’s just a matter of individual.

if in the person the consciousness is an expression of the mind; then what is the consciousness of a spirit? They have mind?

Guruji: of course! They are expressions of the Paramatma, the supreme spirit.

and they don’t need the physical organ like brain?

Guruji: no, they are pure consciousness – of the very different sort. Yoga will not take you to heaven or hell – but it will give you enough power to create your own heaven.

and hell

Guruji: (smiling) too much charity will lead to hell.

Guruji, Your opinion: the heaven and hell are the real places somewhere – maybe in different dimensions; or they are the states of mind?

Guruji: they are real places.

but they are different: so one place is heaven for Christians, another places is heaven for muslims – like that?

Guruji: I will say – Hindus heaven is much better.

so they are like different 5 star hotels on the coast?

Guruji: multiple choice is there. And currency is your good deeds. Finest of the sallies, golden palaces.

and who is coming to heaven and hell: the spirit?

Guruji: the ghost.

what is the difference between spirit and the ghost?

Guruji: even a ghost is carrying the spirit.

so we can say that the ghost is just another form of life?

Guruji: of course. Any person died becomes ghost, all of them.

is it like an astral or thin or subtle body?

Guruji: when we use the word “astral body” we don’t even know how it looks – it’s just a word. This concept I find the hilarious: that you suffer now – but after death you will enjoy in heaven. Who is come back to tell us about heaven? I read one Russian joke: one Russian businessman went to some great problems and he was worried; and the devil appeared to make a deal with him. And he said: I will grant you every desire you have, just sign here – but I will have your soul after death. And Russian asked most profound question: you will give me everything I desire and you will get my soul after I’m dead; what’s the catch here?( laughing)

LIFE IS CRUEL: WHY SHOULD THE AFTERLIFE BE OTHERWISE?

Do you think every human being is extremely friendly? So why should the other life be so friendly?

Life is cruel: why should the afterlife be otherwise? – you already know this great quote. It maybe even more worse than here.

why so?

Guruji: when the evil men die – they also goes there. It’s all around ghosts and spirits and everything. You cannot be careful enough.

What I think: in bible all the angels are descendants of Garuda. That’s why they’re so much against, enemies of the snakes.

People have no choice. All depends on their karma.

ANGELS

I always thought that we can met some teacher, some saint and we will tune with him; and only after that we will meet our angel. But a lot of people says that they all have god send angels?

Guruji: in India we believe that 7 generations of your ancestors – their spirits actually help you and guide you. 3 from your father’s side and 4 from your mother’s side. Angels are just persons who are working for god – for a different reasons. Your ancestors spirits, 7 generations, - they will help you.

no angels can help?

Guruji: they are too busy fighting among themselves.

but You think they are exist?

Guruji: I believe it, yes. If religion is so adamant that they are there – they must be there. But they are too much busy fighting Lucifer and among themselves.

this is not their duty?

Guruji: nobody cares for human beings. So we need to care ourselves. They are harvesting your souls, only – so they can continue to live forever. You’re the live stock for them – or crop for them. That’s why the angel of god is called Reaper: they harvesting your souls – so they can continue to live forever. This is the only immortal thing you have – so keep it yourself.

for them soul is like battery?

Guruji: like food. It gives them energy to continue to live.

how much energy gives one soul?

Guruji: maybe 1 day. One meal in 24 hours. But it’s more hypothetical. Hell looks like a kitchen for heaven. You’re barbeque there, fried there, you’re baked there – then you’re served in heaven. Go back in medieval or ancient time: just try to imagine the kitchen of a count or a king: animal slaughtering, blood flowing, big sweaty cooks are cooking in a huge pots – it will look like hell. Different body parts of some animals been cooked and then served to monarch. Keep your soul yourself: this is the only thing considerable important to have. This is too much simplifying things – to say that all is the plan of god, which is mysterious and unknowable. If so many angels are looking at us and carrying of us – why humanity suffers so much? Why so much wars, diseases and crimes? We need to think more deeply on that things.

Refer to Katha Upanishada: when Nachiketas goes to the doors of Lord of death for three days. He asked three questions and the final was: some people say – the soul continues after death, some say – that is not like this. You’re the Lord of death – you tell me. And Lord of the death – Yama- gave him so many different ideas, that you will be the king of the world, you will have thousand wives, and this and that – but don’t ask this. This is the great mystery.

Finally he gave him upadesh, but nobody understand that. It is the greatest of mystery – what actually happens with the spirit or atma when the physical body is no more. There are so many hypothesis, but nobody knows – why soul needs of the body? Why it was needed, why it was created? That’s why I’m keep saying: until unless you will make your spirit your friend - you will never know this. Only friends can share secrets.

Every religion, which appeared on this planet – since Egyptian times, before that - vedic times, Christianity, islam, greek – every religion today – they all have one thing in common: they all believe in life after death. Most of the wise man, who realize something and have some powers – they also said that is life after death. So when every religion is agreed on that, every wise person is telling that – it means it must be true. And the basic clash among religions is that my heaven is better than yours or only I can show you the way to heaven. That’s the main thing, but they all believe in life after death. If there is no life after death then who is going to heaven? Who is going to hell? There is some big mystery here, which we’re trying to discover.

There are also like mafia thing in spiritual world. Some powerful ghosts may catch the spirits of people and make them their slaves. We have seen such cases. You need to be very strong and you need to have very strong support to survive in spiritual world.

suicide makes you ghost?

Guruji: every death guarantees that you will become a ghost for some time. Liberation is just not attain for everybody. And what is the definition of liberation?

Simple: liberating of all your problems is true liberation. Not moksha, nirvana or go beyond life and death. No problem – that is liberation.

I will again repeat myself: every single religion, which appears on this planet from the beginning of history – they agree on one thing, that there is life after death. Actually the whole concept of the religion is based on life after death.

Be good, send yourself to particular god and he will grant you access to heaven or liberation and if you’re not good – he will throw you into hell. Every religion is actually talking about life after death.

Our program is direct evidence, that life exists and continues after physical death. I will say – discussing philosophy, reading religious books is very good, but I will consider a person as wise man if he is able to talk with spirits, he can see that life, spirits are coming to talk with him – only that person considering as wise. With personal experience.

Everybody can read books and say what is good or bad; we are yogis and we’re want to know things on personal experience. Maybe this is another step in yoga. When we make our spirit our friend – surely other spirits also be your friends. And if there is a friendly person – any people will come to him for help. I think, anybody who appeared on this planet, even avatars and the sons of god - they need help and there is no shame in it. Always ready to help anybody, whether it is human being or spirit, if you’re in a situation to help – help.

Every religion believes in life after death. That is the main base of every faith. Why not accept it?

is it possible that women spirits immediately has rebirth?

Guruji: we can take hypothesis on that, but it’s not written in any book. Any religious book – puran or bible, Shrimad Bhagavatam, in any hindu puran – nothing about it. Some references are in Shiva Purana, otherwise – that’s it. In Shiva Purana there is only one story, that one woman, who was a very big sinner, was afraid and just one round recite the Shiva Purana to her - and she went directly to Shiva Loka. Only this reference we read in all puranas – only one reference. Otherwise there is no reference of any kind anywhere. It’s very big mystery.

Every heaven which is described in any religion is especially for men. What is the concept of the woman in heaven? Nobody discuss it. That is a big mystery.

it’s boring without women in heaven. At least there are succubus in hell.

Guruji: it is common name for a women in Bengali – Succubai.

VAYU SHARIR OR AURA

how the development of the vayu sharir connected with the aura? Are they developed simultaneously?

Guruji: I think so: the better vayu sharir – more electrical charges inside you, so aura will have to be more bright and pure.

what will happen with the aura if the yogi leave the physical body?

Guruji: aura will go with the vayu sharir, go with the consciousness.

but the brain is no more – for the electrical charges?

Guruji: the impressiotn of the brain will also go with the vayu sharir. But the level of consciousness, which yogi had – it will remain.

if such a yogi will have another birth in a good family?

Guruji: he will be the very extraordinary child from the beginning. The hint of the old aura will be there and almost all his nature will be influent by that; and he will start his journey very soon. Maybe he will be born with all the memories.

what is the difference between the our mental perception of ourselves and the vayu sharir?

Guruji: it is not a perception, it’s an actual air body! And it will be almost the good replica of your physical body, if all the nadi has been cleaned. Otherwise some parts will go missing.

but everyone has the mental perception of themselves – for example how we see ourselves in dreams?

Guruji: but it is not a vayu sharir. Vayu sharir will be vayu sharir, and in dreams that is just a mental projection – which is usually wrong.

but they vayu sharir is almost like the physical body?

Guruji: only if nadis have been purified: otherwise certain parts will go missing- that's why ghosts look horrible.

our mental perception: it is like a mask?

Guruji: it’s always the misconception.

in Your case: was it different before Your experience of samadhi and after?

Guruji: absolutely different. The reality is rarely acceptable. Most of us have the very romantic ideas about ourselves. It is human shape: but the true nature is very different.

like every quality is visible on the appearance?

Guruji: oh, you will know. But it’s a big pleasure also. Best thing you realised: oh, I’m not that bad – that is pleasurable thing.

and could You see the true mental projection of the surrounding people?

Guruji: very easily: I think you can already see it right now.

Not a single religion – Christianity, islam, even Hinduism – none of them mention what happened with women after death. All descriptions are for men. But I will say that 21 st century will belongs to ladies. They will dominate politically, financially and the other ways.

how many girls disciples you have?

Guruji: I think it’s about 600. Maybe 40% of my disciples are women. They are doing very sincere practice. Women are very sensitive and developed. And they have the power of curse. If woman curse you it will lasts long.

question is about connection of spirit and body. Electrical activity of the dead body is present up to 3 days then it reduce to certain level up to 9 days, then to 40 days and after that it is gone.

Guruji: it depends on life force of the person and strength of connection spirit and body. If the imprint of the spirit on body was very strong it could remain for a long time.

what about some corpses of saints, that can cure?

Guruji: why the corpse must worry about your problems? When so much people came to one place with the hope to cure – even mathematically some percent of them will be cured. Remember, spirit is not remain inside the body. It could remain near the body only. If you will receive the help from the powerful spirit, you will have to pay. This is the law.

if we are asking gods for something – are we pay?

Guruji: of course you are paying. If you continuously will asking for help, you will become slave. As a yogi I will say: believe in yourself. There is no better help than helping yourself. Create inner power inside you for situation to help. Most of spiritualist I have seen – they have control over some powerful spirit- they were able to create miracles. There was one man in Gwalior: somehow he get control over powerful spirit. He asked him whatever he want. Even put the sweets right in his mouth. And after his death this man became the slave of this spirit. Or remember the story about controlled yakshini.

if while parikrama people are asking for something?

Guruji: I think this is better not to ask anything. Suppose he is ready to give you one million dollars and you are ask for one thousand. So leave the decision to him.

ABOUT SUPERSTITION

Every single religion which came into being on this planet, believes in afterlife!

That’s why the theory about Heaven and Hell are there! Main fight is that our way of going to heaven better than yours ! Okay!

They are all called “Men of faith”, devotees !

But if I believe in ghosts, and I talk about them- I am superstitious ! But even a ghost appearance is confirming, that life continues after death.

So where superstition here ?

This is the approach! We should have our own approach. You just take all information and draw your own conclusion!

what will happen with him after death?

Guruji: unmentionable things

if he take another birth?

Guruji: I think in Gita in 16 th chapter it is described in detail. Very bad situation.

how astral body changes with different births?

Guruji: it will continue to take on the shape of the new body. It is the main thing of identity crisis: to establish the real identity to the astral body – because it is formless it needs a form. For the permanent form they change the bodies and keeps the form – that’s their tragedy.

what will happen with the yogi, who has the completed astral body but somehow must take another birth?

Guruji: he will continue to remember – he will not forget.

but how his astral body will look like?

Guruji: like original. Even a little child will have grown astral body.

but will he be naked or have clothes?

Guruji: well, yogis are allowed to live naked – that is no problem. That’s why they are supposed to live away from society. Otherwise they can be arrest for recent exposure. Even he is innocent – he will be arrested - that is the way of society.

YOUR POWER IN ASTRAL

Control your imagination and control your thoughts and develop your mind, because after death, in the astral, it is a mental world like. Whatever you begin to think and imagine, you will begin to see that also. If you are not trained enough or not a good yogi, then you will not be able to differentiate between reality and the astral. And then problems will begin.

So you need to understand exactly imagination, the power of your mind, and make it strong. And yoga is actually doing it already. I am sure everybody’s mind is more powerful than an average person. Keep getting more powerful.

Simply imagining that your mind is developing is not enough. Only step-by-step teachings of yoga and very good practice, and it will actually develop your brain.

So only with enough practice, your mind will become very, very strong and you will be independent in the astral world. That is what we should aim for.

And the knowledge and the understanding of the astral world is so important. I can refer to the dialogue between Gorakhnath and Matsyendranat.

When Gorakhnath became immortal, then Matsyendranat, His Guru told him, Gorakhnath: “My son, now you have understood everything which is possible in the material world. But remember, the wisdom of the other world is to remain. Keep that in your mind.”

So becoming immortal will make you learn so many things about existence, nature, this, this, this. But the wisdom and knowing the other side will remain.

So remain prepared.

the concept of Hell and Heaven appeared in Vedic times?

Guruji: it is from the earlier time. Even if you go to aborigines, every aboriginal has this idea about Heaven and Hell: they describe it in a different way. But all aboriginals, all tribals – they all believe in it. You will have to agree: they are more in contact with the spirits than a city dweller. They are very sensitive people.

but now there is no Hell, no Heaven?

Guruji: the new hierarchy is developing. It will be like the powerful spirit will rule. It’s all power game – from here to there.

it will not depend on pious deeds you collect but on power you have collected lifetime?

Guruji: not exactly power; you see, knowledge is the greatest power. So, whatever tapas you will do, whatever knowledge you will attain, - that will be your power. No other power is accepted there. It’s the place where billions of years old people live together; so there is very different type of approach, communication – everything is different.

what else we can do except yogic tapas? Or tapas can be only yogic?

Guruji: yoga will give you the real mental strength, develop your brain, your subconscious will even become conscious. The difference between religion and yoga: religion is teaching us to worship a certain god, to please him anyway, so he will grant you entry into heaven. If you are not good – he will throw you to hell. Yoga teaches you to learn about your own spirit, which is already billions of years old. And no religion states, how the spirits came into being or who created them. they have their own nature. And they are givers of the life – and they take it away also. Better as long as it is inside you – it is a very good chance to communicate. And they will give you real wisdom. Only they can give you wisdom.

LET’S TALK ABOUT HELL

first after death who decides where the ghosts will reside?

Guruji: they are arrested mostly.

and what then: they are controlled all the time by seniors?

Guruji: yes, then they judged

but also it has some time frame – not for eternity?

Guruji: yes, eternity is a very long time.

and what then: when their punishment is over – they will take another birth?

Guruji: yes, they are sent to take another birth. To elaborate their karmas more and make them more refined. Sometimes they also receive appointments – for their qualities. You will never become hardcore policeman with good behaviour.

could they remember their past incarnation in between?

Guruji: yes; that’s why analysing is done very thoroughly.

so after death we could remember all our past lives?

Guruji: yes. Then before giving another birth they erase the memory.

for the development it’s even better to remain in astral – because you remember all your past incarnations?

Guruji: yes, but the point is – how to be stabilised? We’re not stable here and we’re not stable there.

but comparatively it may be not so hard to stay there because you’re not limited by the lifespan of the body?

Guruji: it depends on your karmas, your mental development and the power you have attained.

maybe it’s possible to make some agreement with the seniors?

Guruji: somehow – yes( smiling). But it is always difficult.

what for they erase the memory?

Guruji: so that lifetime he will adjust with the family and without the memory he will go through this life and the different karmas – so he can receive punishment again.

it exists the cases when they somehow forgot to erase the memory?

Guruji: deliberately sometimes they do it; some people are born with the past life remembrance.

how such people are living with that memories?

Guruji: very difficult for them to exist.

because they cannot establish the identity?

Guruji: no, because they cannot exist with the situation in a new family. They have several personalities inside – it’s very hard to exist for them.

about past life memories: is it really easy for the person just to remember all the details going through some hypnosis or regression?

Guruji: not for normal person – until unless he came across some past life object or place or person

so it could click – but it couldn’t be done deliberately?

Guruji: no

what is more entertaining for the ghosts: to live on Earth or to live in astral world?

Guruji: majority of them - they don’t want to leave Earth.

and what is better for them: to live in physical body or in vayu sharir?

Guruji: as a ghost on Earth. You can go anywhere, you can see anywhere.

but you cannot touch anything?

Guruji: you can.

they have no system like government or immigration service?

Guruji: powerful mafia: they control many ghosts. They easily can not to

allow someone to enter some areas.

how they decide where they will live and how they possess the place to live?

Guruji: wherever they will be where is no one to control them, there is no mafia boss territory: it is a big struggle for them – until unless somebody provides them a place.

according to Your observations: it exists some places which are always crowded – and the places where nearly no one lives?

Guruji: all holy places are crowded with ghosts.

and it exists some ghosts who live on North pole and South pole?

Guruji: only powerful spirits are living there. Boss will always need the 5-star place to live. And they know me. Even the very evolved ghost: they cannot tolerate the smell of humanity. South pole and North pole are free from human smell. And some Himalayan places also. In deserts also; but they need water: they need to be near water. Water is the main substance for them: it is their food. And the person, who drown in water, becomes the very powerful ghost.

so they can live even on the surface of the ocean?

Guruji: whoever drowns there – they will become the very powerful ghosts.

how to become a boss in astral?

Guruji: mental development is the key. Power game – everywhere. You should be like a warrior with the very developed mind. Simply holding concentration is not enough.

it’s like you can imagine anyone and defeat him?

Guruji: see, it will be just your imagination; you need to express it physically also – or astrally also. Like we do it here.

but the body is without any strength?

Guruji: they have an air element and akash element: it’s enough strength in them.

is it possible that in this incarnation we pay so much respect to Shiva Ji and Babaji – but somehow after death our memory will be erased and in next incarnation we will become for example muslims?

Guruji: impossible. Until unless you marry a musalman or borrow money from musalman.

when someone curse his body – he could attain any form, because of sins person attains stambhana and become a plant?

Guruji: if you’re abusing your body and you’re not using it for the right purposes – let’s say you’re playing the very sinful life what will happen: you will become a plant after death. You will become grass or something, than some animal will eat you, you will become it’s offspring – you will take any form in 1,8 million different species which were created.

so to be the tree is not the development of consciousness?

Guruji: not, if it is a punishment. There are only certain trees that are considered to be with divine qualities. Like banyan tree, udumbar tree, gula tree, pipal tree, kadamba tree, neem tree…there are special trees, not grass which any animal will eat: that chain, when you’re not free to take any form, but the any form come to you. Depending on who – which animal ate you. Udumbara tree is divine, it’s directly connected with Dattatreya. Bilwa, pipal, rudraksha – they are divine trees, and there are food trees which are food for everybody.

divine trees nobody can eat?

Guruji: they can eat, but the result will be different.

hell is also astral world?

Guruji: no, hell is Naraka. Naraka is there the sinners are sent to have torture, that is hell. Patalas are netherworlds.

but you said that nowadays all hells are closed?

Guruji: I’ve seen thousands of ghosts: if yamduts are taking them – from there these ghosts are appearing? You can not be more powerful than yamdut, that’s a point. And no ghost is talking about heaven or hell. They need a place for themselves. They are asking for place.

they looking for peace?

Guruji: they don’t ask for the quite place to stay. They just need a place.

but nowadays there is no Dharmaraj – how pitri tarpana is working?

Guruji: that maybe another system now.

Garuda Purana is working now?

Guruji: it used to work; but these things about obeisance to your ancestors – it works, because nowadays they are helping people.

but the system of different hells – is it working now?

Guruji: I don’t know exactly, because world is no more like it described in puranas. Heavenly gods are disappeared, daityas from the netherworld are taking over: I’m sure, some difference, some changes are with hell also.

And I told you before: whether it is a Christian hell or Hindu hell – it looks like a kitchen for heaven. You’re fried on barbeque or boiled and will be served in heaven. Maybe now vegetarians are there – so we don’t know, what’s happening. Because so many spirits we talked – nobody mentioning heaven or hell or yamduts or somebody coming to take them. But this area the spirits of our ancestors – we saw them and they helped us and guide us. It looks like Hindu system is developing.

You said that the vayu sharir of the yogi is looking the same like the physical one?

Guruji: in his prime, yes

from where the ball of light comes?

Guruji: it is a spirit, not vayu sharir. It is inside.

vayu sharir knows the true name of the spirit?

Guruji: no. vayu sharir is next body of any person, it carries two elements – vayu and akash, that is also semi-physical body. And a spirit is inside it also.

after death, if you were yogi – it remains the whole vayu sharir?

Guruji: with yoga practice vayu sharir becomes very condensed, shapely and complete. Most of the ghosts looks horrible because their nadis were not pure – so that portions remains empty; they appear in the very horrible state. The elementary thing of yoga practice creates very strong, perfect vayu sharir. And you will remain in vayu sharir for a very-very long time. You can do real pranayama only in vayu sharir.

if you die before knowing the true name of your spirit?

Guruji: then vayu sharir lives very long, for thousands of years they can continue.

after death you’ll perceive yourself like before, same name?

Guruji: maybe you die here and born there. Or if you’re real yogi and continuously practicing yoga for 10000 years in vayu sharir and when you die there – maybe only one element will remain, that will akash: that will be very near to a spirit. In that state you maybe discover – and in vayu sharir it can be done also.

vayu sharir is not immortal?

Guruji: only spirits enjoying eternal life. Here I’ve seen some spirits – I call them spirits – they are nearly 2,7 millions years old. Most of them are ladies. They keep playing here, like children. Nearly 5 meters tall, extremely shapely and beautiful. They always keep their faces covered – upper part, you never can see their eyes or nose. They’re playing and follow me around sometimes. Their bangles were heard by many people. They’re very ancient – but we still don’t know, who they are.

CRIME AND PUNISHMENT

Only through her the spirit is allowed to enter inside - otherwise it remain outside you. It allowed particular spirit to establish the certain connection.

if the spirit will not take another birth – it has no chance?

Guruji: no chance. Only after forgiveness will happen – then maybe he will have a chance to take another birth.

without taking another birth the spirit couldn’t be forgiven by someone?

Guruji: if somehow she will be able to take another birth – that birth she will suffer like hell as a result of karma. Better way to clean now. You have to face your own karma.

people, who are doing parikrama or some tapas…?

Guruji: they are going beyond the effect of the karma. You will be pure, you will rise above the results of your karma, your mind will be free of the shadows of your karmas – then only the wisdom will come.

but what spirit can do?

Guruji: only ask for forgiveness. Without a medium they can do nothing.

if relatives or someone will do the ritual for this spirit – will it help?

Guruji: temporary. But ultimately they will have to face their own things.

if someone do tapas for this spirit?

Guruji: if he hadn’t do some tapas for himself – no one could do for him.

but if someone alive is doing tapas and gave all fruit to this spirit?

Guruji: if it is done genuinely – it is possible. It rarely happens.

have You know some cases?

Guruji: I will tell you a story. There was one man suffering with cancer last state and the whole family came to me and say: please, save him! I said – ok, I will try; one thing I can do: I can give the part of my lifetime to him. they all say – yes, yes, please! Then I said: I can take some months and years for your all lifetimes and give it to him – then immediately they refused. I kicked them out. Not single one of them was willing to give one year of their life span to the dedushka dyeing. But when I said about me – of course they say yes, yes, please. Most of them are very greedy people.

Guruji, what is your opinion about all religions?

Guruji: well, it’s the very interesting question. Every religion, which appear on this planet – since we know about all religions and every wise man, who realize something – they all agree on one thing that there is life after death. Only difference in religions is that they say – our way to heaven is better than your way to heaven. But every single religion, which appears on this planet – they all believe and they all teach that there is life after death. And every realized person from Buddha and Jesus to anybody – they all say there is life after death. I think if so many people believes and all religions are insists on it – that means it’s the genuine fact and we should believe on it. And there is another interesting comment that every person, who believes in ghosts and spirits is called superstitious – but he is also believing in life after death. So any evidence which you come across – about ghosts, spirits, angels, gods and divinity – they are just proves, that there is life after death. That’s why we should introduce our life in a very positive way and very spiritual way, because everybody is going to end up in the spirits’ world – sooner or later. This is what I think.

what is your opinion – heaven and hell – are they exist?

Guruji: there is no description, where the women will go. All the description of heaven and hell are for men. what is idea of a woman’s paradise? Not a single religion all over the world describes what happen with the woman after she dies and where she goes.

but in Islamic tradition it is said that if you will die being a virgin – you will be guriya in heaven?

Guruji: and every bad smelling mulla could use you. I think it is hell.

I think every religion is out to control a woman. In vedic times the women have rights, but after avraamic religion’s invasion even nowadays they are discussing – have the women a soul or not. But women are very powerful. They are already realized and men must working hard( smiling)

As long as blood is flowing in everybody’s veins – the influence of woman is always there. So that’s why we need to go into Samadhi to stop the flow of the blood for some time.

I think we need to discover love first. Only then live together. Or maybe that’s why men go to heaven because they go through hell when they were living with the woman here – so they don’t need to go to hell anymore and the heaven is waiting for them. But without blessing of the woman man is just a sperm.

when we’re talking about heaven or hell – they are in mental or in vayu world?

Guruji: it’s together – vayu and mental both.

how they are connected?

Guruji: they say that place of Yamaraj is 8400000 miles from Earth. That means there are space stations, where you’re taken – then you’re junked, cooked and served in heaven. Like a big mall or utility providing station where you’re arrest then cook and then served in heaven. It’s a different set up.

LIFE

AFTER DEATH

could the spirits have friends or even families on the other side?

Guruji: it is possible and it happens that

way. Mother of one of my disciple – she was also disciple; when she was dying,

her granddaughter made her promise: that you promise, you come back and tell me

what’s happening there. We placed her there and after one month or so she came

back in her dream and said: as it was here – so it is there. No big difference.

And then she went away.

but no big difference because You guided her?

Guruji: maybe because of that.

but for normal people?

Guruji:

for normal people it’s a big problem. It is a problem like this, suppose: without

knowing the language, and no money, no identification, you just appear out of

nowhere in big airport, naked; what you will face? Same thing. No

communication, no money, no identity, nothing.

when somebody from there coming back to life temporarily, it was several cases when their relatives saw them like in flesh and blood; what bodies they are using and how does it work?

Guruji: when somebody appearing like that

after cremation had happened – it’s a different principle working. Someone

very powerful helping them; and they appear as in flesh and blood – but

they be not in flesh and blood. Now more these things are happening.

The

example with Jesus: he set away from public life, after he returned, very few people saw

him after that. And most of the people who come back to life after death –

maybe it is a message for society: be careful, another life waiting for you. So prepare yourself well. In Mahabharata also, Yudhishthira

is asking Bhishma: do You know anyone who came back to life? And Bhishma

remembered and told the very ancient story as one time it happened. Now it is

very common thing. Books are written on that, people are discussing that; it is

a message from a very high person or power to tell us that there is life after

this life. I think it is education. We must try to do good.

I know one place, where the people live in the sin

Guruji: Where?

in the hell!

Guruji: Hell may be the most entertaining place. What is the idea of heaven for you?

For me it’s joining some enormous shining thing…

Guruji: Go back, this is just a hypothesis: the exact description is given in the bible: you will live in the jungle naked – no toilet, no kitchen, nothing. That is heaven. It is written in the bible! And most of the religions are talking about men going to heaven; they never mention where girls are going. So I have no idea what is the greatest sin: this thing, you should consult a sinner.

What is the sin?

Guruji: I have no idea. One womanizer died; and St.Peter met him and said you have committed a great sin! And he answered: but sir, please consider how romantic they were!

HEAVEN AND HELL

So every religion believes, that there’s life after death.

So now my question is - who goes to heaven and who goes to hell?

You may take it seriously, you may take it in jocular way - ghost goes to the heaven and ghost goes to the hell!

Heaven is the five stars resort for the ghost, and hell is for poor ghosts who have nothing to pay, so they thrown away in hell, because they have nothing to pay.

WHAT WILL BE AFTER DEATH

One of the most significant comments you gave for people who had never done yoga was very practical: in the 8th chapter, the 16th shloka you described all the experiences which happen right after death, when the soul is leaving the body. It’s very detailed and describes the feeling of dizziness, the sound of the bells, shining appearance of Time and two chances to reunite with It, given to the soul.

It’s incredibly detailed, and those who has never read any yogic text are very impressed by this comment. Where did those words arrive from, based on what experience, how did you come up with it?

Guruji: After my first experience of samadhi. That was the experience I went through – and was able to describe it. My intention was to share this information with all persons, who are pure of heart and devotional by nature.

If such a person accepts these words by reading Gita, at least he will know what he could expect after death, the reactions and sensations.

If he has a really devotional nature and believes in divinity – he may be able to keep his mind focused during the time of the death and may go through it.

For others, those who were never devotional, had no such experiences, which never read my commentary and never had much faith in Indian religious mythology – their reaction may be different.

Those yogis, who practice Kriya yoga, are going through these experiences often; and when the sound of Nada starts – they will listen to those sounds, resembling thousands of roaring lions and thousands of breaking waves … They will be ready to pass through.

For them it will be a great experience. That ’ s why I thought that it was very important to share this information.

Is this description based on the personal experience of yogic samadhi?

Guruji: Yes; that ’ s why after this experience I was able to revive myself – and able to discuss it. Then I began to study other people ’ s experiences – those who were dying; and I was unfortunate enough to see some of them die. I could see that they were about to leave.

Can we safely assume that for all souls departure is happening in the same manner?

Guruji: Almost for everybody. Almost. I became firmly convinced that the God, or the Creator, or Ishwar – whoever He is – is treating everybody equally. So everyone will go through this final experience in the same manner; but reaction to this experience will remain individual.

We need to steel ourselves, to train ourselves to be ready to face it. Our reaction will affect the result of this passage.

Fantastic experience! If I ’ m asked to give an example, how would a person feel during it, I would say: just try to imagine a mosquito, a fly, who is witnessing an atomic blast – it will be similar to it. Maybe not even that magnitude. That ’ s why the reaction is important – only the person, who experienced it before will be ready to face it; or the person with extreme devotion, who believes that this is a fact and says “ I will face it ” – he or she will also go through it.

People keep asking the same question: they don’t understand some moments, connected with jivatma, dehi, consciousness and individuality; when we die, we go to the astral world and we are in vayu sharira.

The individuality, the consciousness preserved as a previous jivatma – does dehi also live in vayu sharira? They already obtained astral experience, is that true?

Perhaps, with time the vayu sharira also transforms and only jivatma remains; then individuality does not have any value as it is? Is it just the instrument to obtain the experience of jivatma? If the vayu sharira remains the same in a new birth – does vayu sharira enter the uterus of the potential mother with the same old consciousness, same individuality – but then just forgets the previous self?

Guruji: If you remain as a ghost, earth-bound, the vayu sharira will be there. But if you are advanced enough to go beyond the solar system – then vayu sharira will not be there. It will be a very different thing – it will become a pure consciousness. For the sake of giving it a name you can call it “ the body of the consciousness ” or “ pure consciousness ” where your individuality, your personal experience will remain with you. Vayu sharira will remain only in the earth ’ s atmosphere.

If you become a ghost or you are not advanced enough to go beyond the solar system, then the astral body will obtain so many different gradations – or whatever you will call them – you will experience them all.

The vayu sharira is your chance of future development, because you ’ re a yogi. If you want to develop your vayu sharira – then you need to work on all nadis, so vayu will flow in every nadi inside your body.

Then your vayu sharira will become very condensed – and you can choose to remain on Earth in a vayu sharira. Which is a valid body. And you can continue to practice and keep developing your consciousness to a very high level. Then you ’ re free to leave the solar system and go wherever your destination will take you.

It is just a stepping stone – to go through vayu sharira. Otherwise ordinary ghosts look quite horrible, almost dangerous – because their vayu sharira is not complete, not condensed enough – so they appear very ugly and frightening.

Will vayu carry the consciousness?

Guruji: Vayu will carry the memories and the consciousness.

Which will get forgotten and erased?

Guruji: Yes, it will remain stored in the subconscious. And it will reflect most of your behavior also. But with a first breath it will come inside – you will forget most of the things. Till then your mother ’ s breath will carry you forward. When you get the perfect vayu sharira – you will never take another birth.

Why so?

Guruji: If your body is perfect – then not a single nadi remains not filled with the vayu, then vayu sharira is completed – and you don ’ t need to take another birth. You can continue to do whatever you want, continue to develop your consciousness, because – I said it before and I ’ ll repeat it – wisdom is the real entertainment for the wise. You will be hooked to that particular entertainment.

It is the first time I hear from you that we don’t need to take another birth when vayu sharira is…

Guruji: When vayu sharira is good and complete.

So the spirit keeps getting into other bodies to…?

Guruji: In hope to get a perfect body – because of different karmic levels the level of consciousness is not developed enough – so we don ’ t even become aware of it (the spirit).

Guruji was reading the morning paper. “Amazing news today,” he said. “A man came alive after being declared dead for 2 hours. The family was about getting ready for his final rituals when he woke up.”

I said that these kinds of incidents seem to happen to lot in India.

Guruji replied: “They are happening more frequently these days. In Mahabharata, Yudhisthira asked Bhishma Pitamah if he had seen anyone who came back from dead. After thinking for a moment, Bhishma said a long time back he had seen a child who came back after dying. Never after that. On the other hand in the last 50 years we have seen numerous such examples. May be it’s a tactic, to get people pay attention to the supernatural. I have seen 5 such people myself, even around here in Vraj.”

“Can yamadūtas (messengers of death) really make mistakes?”

“It’s a deliberate mistake, so that a common man who is completely materialistic starts to realize that there is something after death and all these [spiritual] things are not just figments of imagination. These stories do make one pause to think. In Gujarat an old lady came back after death. She asked Yamaraj (god of death) what should I do after going back? Yamaraj said whoever you bless will have a son. She has since blessed thousands of women and they all had boys. Now all these kids must be hearing her story from childhood, how she rose from dead and how they were born by her blessing. It creates a natural faith and respect for spirituality.”

“That’s true, Guruji,” I said. “I wonder why I don’t hear these kinds of stories in the US. May be they don’t publish them?”

Guruji said: “There have been many such cases there as well. Raymond Moody has written extensively about it, about near-death and after-death experiences. People there also wonder about these things.”

reason that Gaya Prasad ji offered his pranam to his own body/Samadhi. With the grace of Guru I answered “With the help of which physcial body his Sadhana was successful and by help of which he got the Darshans of Lord, so that very physical body also became divine and worth paying obeisance for his soul, that’s why his soul came from Goverdhan Maharaj and offered their pranam to his Physical body and this is also a very magical thing that even after his death, few devotees were able to have his darshans.

… the fire will go into fire and the air will go into air. They are saying about only these two; and the body will become ashes. This is about after death. So remember what you have done, remember. Because after death – only your remembrance could tell you, which you know by practice before death appearing in front of you. That’s what you cross over. That’s why we were just discussing, why it is stress that control your mind. Because without body, whatever you will think – you will start to feel it as it is real. When your mind is in control, your force are very in control, – then will be no problem. So control it now. Before, when it is not present, – that’s the point. Be prepared. This is my favorite upanishada.

Fire came to fire, vayu will go into vayu. You see, when some person is dying, the atma goes with the last breath. So vayu is going into vayu, it maybe vayu sharira. Fire of the body remain, and the body will be burn. If there will be no fire element remain in the body – it will be impossible to burn it. Fire with fire only there will go.

Now our conscious mind is absolutely centered on body. And most of your experience and feelings and attentions are centered on the body. After death, when there is no body, whatever you will think – will happen. All will be created like this, because it is mental world. If you are able to control your mind now, while having the body, with that controlled mind it will be easy to cross over. Instead of just be in confusion, because every thought will appear. So when your mind is controlled, concentrated, remembrance of all your past experience will tell you and you cross over. You see the beauty of upanishada: they are not limited for someone – they are for all humanity. I never come across such compassion in the way to get immortality.

Q: But if a yogin died without achieving Samadhi?

Sh: His practice will continue even after his death. And here I will mention that the real practice of pranayama begins when you will be in the air body, in the Vayu Sharir.

… crow, dog, cow and ant. All of them connected with Yamaraj, also with Bhairav; and cow is symbol of Mother Earth; crow is directly connected with the death herself – death rides on a crow; and ants are spies of Yamaraj, they keep reporting about everybody. You will always find ants everywhere.

there is a place in Kiev where the bodies of the saints are preserved for hundreds of years: it is said that it collects tomuch power in these bodies?

Guruji: possibly yes.

how it’s possible physically that they still have some shape? What is physically going on?

Guruji: they maybe some achievers who achieved a certain state – so they keep lying there and their spirit continues to remain attached with that. They are there: so you feel it there. It’s a different type of energy.

it is special place?

Guruji: place is also special – that’s why they chose to be there, the bodies. It was a very deliberate decision. Every special place is part of Earth physicality; so maybe some special vibration or energy of planet is radiating there.

I remember You said in one of Your comments that spirit will stay near the body – or even near the family?

Guruji: yes; so?

so if my dad is dead – he will hang on near the family where he was living?

Guruji: not exactly; you see, wherever he is buried – he will remain near that. Sometimes of there is a special thing – he may come.

if we come to some old antique shop – we can feel the energy of the ex-owners of all those things?

Guruji: it will absorb all the energy of the owners, yes.

what is the aim to chose the certain place and stay there near the bodies?

Guruji: if they were very spiritually developed people – even their presence will help other people. Their presence is enough: there is not they will go deliberately out there; simply being there is enough help. Whoever will come in the circle of their energy – will be affected.

they don’t have the aim to take a birth?

Guruji: no need. It is better to stay there like that. It must be the powerful place.

In India mother is considered as first Guru of everyone, father is second. Then the spiritual Guru comes.

what was the reason for going to hell for Pandavas?

Guruji: every king goes to hell for some time.

but they don’t reside there?

Guruji: how much is some time – we don’t know. Duryodhana rose directly to heaven because he was killed by a weapon in the battle. Arjuna and all Pandavas didn’t die in a battle with weapon – they died of starvation and exertion. it’s very different story.

Oh Arjuna! All the worlds including Brahma-Loka are reiterative, but, oh Kounteya! There is no rebirth after attaining Me.

All the souls in this creation are born and reborn until they realize the true character of the imperishable Supreme Time. Once realized, they are not again confined in physical limitations by way of rebirth.

Some of the after-death conditions are explained below for the benefit of the average men, who, for their lack of practice of yoga, have no knowledge of the unbearable brilliance of the Time that is faced at the time of death. If an average person, by knowing these conditions, can remain unfrightened at the time of death and for some time soon after death, then even he can become free from the obligation of rebirth.

When breathing is slowing down at the time of death, there is a fear of death with a feeling of lightness. When the heart stops beating there is a strong feeling of giddiness and one can hear a sound of whistling or rattling or ringing of bells. Simultaneously with this, the consciousness of the dying person quits his body. The course of giddiness can last from a few moments to three or four days on the physical scale depending upon one’s mental development. When the consciousness is quitting physical body, the person gets a momentary experience of the great brilliance of the Time. Having had no previous experience, the ordinary people are horrified by this.

This momentary experience is like that of suddenly facing the dazzling sun-light after staying confined to a dark room for very long. If one is not disturbed by this experience and recollects that this is that same great brilliance that manifests him and also this creation, then, he has a chance to unite with that brilliance. If he is frightened by the darshan of that dreadful brilliance and tries to seek shelter, that brilliance disappears instantly, and the soul finds itself exited from the body. Without physical support his consciousness has a feeling of emptiness at that time. He doesn’t understand at that time that death has overtaken him. When he observes his kin, he even tries to communicate with them, but no one can hear (feel) him. He fails in all his attempts. He slowly and gradually understands that he has died, when he observes last rites being performed on his body. At this instant, and sometimes a while earlier, he once again observes that ultimate brilliance. This time, the brilliance resembles a pure light that glows and then dims in the shape of a big circle of very shining golden color and the center of this is deep blue in color. This is a direct darshan of the Conscious Void. The dead man also hears the great Anahad Nada that reverberates from its center simultaneously with the darshan of the great light. This sound is just like that of thousands of clouds thundering simultaneously. If one can remain fearless and realize during this experience that, this itself is his real form, and this itself is the brilliance that manifests his consciousness; then the common man who can hold on this way and remain bold during this experience can unite with that brilliance and get rid of the cruel obligation of rebirth.

Those who are frightened by this experience go to heaven or hell in accordance with the level of their consciousness and remain tied up with the bondage of taking birth again and again. A yogi takes these experiences while he is alive and becomes fearless. He unites through the medium of death with the brilliance of all brilliance, the brilliance of the Time.