Rebirth and past lives

Q: What is the break of time for the spirit and soul between one body and another?

Sh: Well, it depends on the development of the spirit. From one second to many centuries. Many persons who died in accidents or were murdered take immediate birth.

But if a natural death happens, usually there is a gap of several years.

And a highly evolved person waits for the right time for an opportunity to take birth again. It may take centuries.

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I traced the last births of Mahatma Gandhi . I was very much surprised to learn that he was the direct incarnation of a very great famous person 2000 years back. His name was Vishnu Gupta Chanakya. And when we observed similarities between their lives, they were exactly the same.

Vishnu Gupta Chanakya also created history. There was a very great kingdom belonging to the Nand dynasty. And once upon a time there was an incident when Nand insulted Chanakya publically. And Chanakya promised himself that he would finish that kingdom. And he did that.

The same is with Mahatma Gandhi. When he was going in a first class compartment in a train one British officer kicked him out and threw him on the platform. And he promised himself he would finish the British Empire. And he did exactly that.

And he used to look almost the same. Dressed in the same way. And they were both murdered.

So may be such powerful spirits come when some political, social change is to begun.

Q: So it means that the habits don’t change?

Sh: No, the work is almost similar, not the habit.

Q: Time between reincarnations — what does it depend on?

Sh: It depends on say the power of the spirit. And the situation. Whether the situation is correct for that spirit to take incarnation or not. Because I was surprised that Mahatma Gandhi’s spirit took more than 2000 years to incarnate, to take birth because the situation was not right for him.

And they usually come for some specific purpose only. There is no karma involved in their births.

Q: So there are spirits born to do karma and get the result of karma and some spirits are…

Sh: They are born to create and change certain situations. So that it affects other human beings. They actually act like a catalytic agent. They create situations, join some situations together so that humanity learn lessons out of that.

Q: But such spirits like Mahatma Gandhi, coming once in centuries, are they noted to practice yoga?

Sh: They have already done a lot of practice. So no karma is involved in their births, they are already very far advanced. But still they come.

Q: And they don’t remember their past lives.

Sh: They may be remembering but they will never tell it to others because who will believe it?

Q: So Gandhi may have remembered his past lives.

Sh: It looks like that. Or at the certain point of their lives they remember.

Q: But then when they die the whole memory comes back.

Sh: Yes.

Q: So is it like when you are there with two elements supporting you and you enter this, you exchange your past memories for the other three elements?

Sh: No, may be they have already gone beyond the five elements. That’s why they are so powerful that they are sent for a specific purpose. You see Gandhi’s coming. It was a great change. We saw the end of British Empire and we also saw democracy coming to India. The same thing happened at Chanakya’s time also. They always come when a great change is to be introduced.

You see they are very great spirits. They come to the Earth once in thousands of years only to bring about some very great social and political change. They are chosen only for that.

Q: So this is not their life mission to develop their soul because their soul is already developed.

Sh: No, they are already developed. They know their mission exactly. But others fail to understand it.

Man: So all the human beings had another bodies in previous lives. Maybe some of them had a body of an animal as well.

S: Yes, probably most of the human beings had another bodies.

Man: And it doesn’t matter whether they were Muslims, or Christians, or Hindus?

S: It doesn’t matter. The Christians are making more researches on reincarnation and the life after death than anyone else nowadays. They have found very strong evidence that these things do happen. There has been invented a special machine in America and one of my disciples brought it to me. They put something on your head and you begin to see other sides of life. They wanted to have my opinion on it and they gave it to me.

Man: When Anatoly Karpov, a world chess champion, was 5-7 years old, he could play chess amazingly well. The only explanation I have is that he was a champion in his previous life. What do you think?

S: I’m sure of it. He carries some memories and skills from his past.

Man2: I have never studied riding a horse, but once I have sat on a horse and began to ride without any problem. I have never studied driving a car, but once I have entered the car and started driving.

Man: A question about the body. How does it differ from one life to another?

S: It can be absolutely different.

Man: And a character?

S: It also differs. It depends on the life plan the spirit has. We had a very good discussion with Sergey about DNA and the information it has. Body is so complicated. But the moment a spirit leaves, body becomes nothing. That means that the knowledge of the spirit is extremely important.

Man: If a spirit was a bad-tempered one in his previous life, would he be the same in the next life?

S: Maybe he will find himself in very humble circumstances in the next life. It is very frustrating to find yourself in very humble circumstances if you were a king in a previous life.

previous lives , reincarnation

Unbelievable story of rebirth this happened in 1991. I left home and started living in my farm cottage. Sushil Kashyap is a disciple. One of his cousins is Pradeep Sharma alias Tantu Was his nick name.He also became my disciple. There was a Colonel Srivastava in our Mathura. He was a devotee too So they came in December of 91, 31st of December, came to Gwalior by road, to seek blessings for the New year. It was winter so we were having lunch in the lawn. There was a nice place outside, there was a farm.

At that exact time Sushil Kashyap and Pradeep Sharma and Santu to meet. When Tantu saw the Colonel from a distance, he became emotional. His throat choked. When tears started coming he did not come closer. They remained standing at a distance for about one and a half hour. I thought because there were Colonel etc. here that is why they were not coming. Then Colonel Saheb took leave and went away with blessings. Then they came nearby Seeing his face I wondered what happened? He told me that he saw their faces and I Suddenly remembered my last birth. He was my commanding officer, in the 1971 war and I was Lieutenant Shrivastava.

He also told me his name which I can't remember right now. And we went on a mission. Some of us Went to do recce of the Terrain. Pakistanis came to know about from there So when they attacked us, we were running away from them. So as I ran. Nine bullets hit me in the stomach and I fell down. So Colonel Sahib took care of me. He was a major at that time. He was not a Colonel then So I died in his lap saying, Sir, save me. It had been three months since he got married. He remembered his wife and said, Sir, please save me. But sir could not save him. His next birth was in 1972

And since birth there were nine bullet marks on his stomach. They were clearly visible. He also used to show. There were nine bullet marks on his stomach. We were all surprised. And Till that time he did not remember anything. As soon as he Saw the person in whose arms he died, He remembered his previous birth completely. After reaching Mathura in the evening, Colonel called me and said that We reached safely. By Road. I asked him if he had any Lieutenant Srivastava Who in the war of 1971, when you were returning from reconnaissance, he died in your lap saying, Sir. Saved me. He too was surprised. He asked How did you know? I told - he is sitting next to me. I am sending him to you tomorrow.

Next day I sent Sushil Kashyap and Pradeep Sharma alias Tantu to Mathura. to the Colonel So Colonel Saheb showed him many very old photos. He had a good collection. He recognized all the photos. It was completely confirmed that it was him only. Then the colonel informed, you have a daughter, because when you died your wife Was pregnant. Presently she is a teacher in Central School in Delhi. Would you like to meet her? So he refused saying that I would not be able to bear it. he had a strange thought since childhood that I will die in some accident. I don't know, this thing was always on his mind.

Whenever He used to drive a car etc, he never drove the car at a speed above 40 kmph. And just a few years ago he died in a road accident. Someone hit him from behind in that accident Right now his son is doing very good work and he is also my disciple. So I also take care of him because he is a son of the disciple and a disciple too. So special care should be given, no doubt. So this is a completely true incident. All the people involved were in front of us and known to us. and cross checking also took place. Confirmation was done. He recognized every photo that the Colonel had been shown. And we have also seen the marks on the stomach which are nine There were marks on his stomach from bullets. What people previously thought of as birthmarks They were bullet marks.

So this is a rebirth event that happened in front of us So this is a completely true incident. You also reflect and think.

Guruji: no, ever. He had a certain complex: stayed away from any firearms, from the uniformed people, lived very simple life of a salesman; now his son comes here – he is a disciple also.

what is the lesson to learn here: that the great fear, the great danger or great pains – they are samskaras, which follow us to the next life?

Guruji: and I think: if you face grave danger and if you survive after – you will become very careful. That is true.

NEXT BIRTH AND DHANANJAYA VAYU

dhananjaya submerges into deep sleep and connects prana with the body in next incarnation?

Guruji: yes, it is possible

it is possible when body is completely destroyed?

Guruji: and dhananjaya is released; only with dhananjaya next incarnation will become possible. If the dhananjaya vayu will not be released from the body by brahmarandhra open, kapala kriya, – no next birth is going to be possible. It plays the very important role in that. When body is destroyed and skull opened – then it is released. Then only spirit will follow it and take another birth.

so dhananjaya finds another body and let the spirit…?

Guruji: no, spirit finds another body – but without dhananjaya vayu it will not be connected with another body, the possibility will not be there.

can we say that dhananjaya vayu is not changed at all from birth to birth?

Guruji: it is in the skull – it retains all the memories and all the samskaras, everything. Very important thing.

if yogin takes another birth and opens brahmarandhra – it happened on physical plan, he has the hole in his head?

Guruji: inside. It doesn’t mean the skull must be opened. Indian rishis – when they gave us guidance, how to cremate – they gave a substitute of opening brahmarandhra by doing kapala kriya – by popping the skull with hammer. If you’re not able to do it yogically –it will be done otherwise. The next birth will be ensured, better one. Otherwise you will remain rotting away in a grave without taking another birth. Only by taking new birth evolution is guaranteed, otherwise – no evolution. For a yogi – it’s a different matter. if he is already realized himself - then the earthly body becomes extraordinarily pure: then it is returned to the Earth as it is. It’s very different matter.

Guruji: oh, I remember just a hints. Now I’m more interested to meeting myself.

MEMORIES OF PAST LIVES. REGRESSIONS

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They were not able to categorize their memories; they were not intelligent enough to understand what they were seeing or remembering. Many people have a very different notion: that when they remember a past life they will see it like a series; but they have only glimpses – and they fail to recognize them.

But those who are successful – do they see only one past life or several lives?

Guruji: Immediately – one. We experimented for 2-3 days, then the substance was gone. If we had continued to do that – maybe they would have remembered more.

Is it difficult to prepare the substance?

Guruji: There was a tragedy also. One man from Gwalior – he is no more now – was under the impression that he had been a very great saint in his past life and had been doing great tapas. But sadly, when we experimented on him, he turned out to be just a barber. And it broke his heart. It was a very traumatic memory for him.

That was my question about the regression sessions: because everyone remembers he was a king or a great warrior; but nobody remembers he was a sweeper or a beggar?

Guruji: Exactly! But that thing made him remember that he was a simple barber. Usually people’s hidden desires come to the surface. I myself have seen 4 Cleopatras, 3 generals from Alexander’s army and a few kings.

One American came; he was an actor and had even worked with Bruce Lee. Muscular guy, tall, bald. My Guru refused to initiate him, but he came for 4-5 days. He was saying: “I was a general in Alexander’s army – so I’ve taken birth after 2000 years.” I simply told him: “I’m very happy to see my general after 2000 years” (smiling).

Then we asked him to demonstrate some kung-fu – which he did; I got the trick of it. Then we arm-wrestled – and I defeated him both times, in front of Shibendu Lahiri; he witnessed that. You should never pass up the opportunity: even if he had defeated me – well, he was a sparring partner of Bruce Lee – he could do that. But even then I won. He was very fit, maybe 6.3 feet tall, with big arms. He acted in some of Bruce Lee’s movies.

He became interested in Lahiri Mahasaya’s lineage only after reading the Autobiography of a Yogi . In the book which Yogananda’s younger brother wrote – Mejda – my Guru’s photograph is there.

Why did your Guru refuse that man?

Guruji: He simply refused without explanation.

THE RITE OF SHAVING THE HAIR OF A NEWBORN

When a child has born and his head is not shaved – past life memory will retain. And he will never be existed with the new family. It’s a point with every family that they shave those delivery hairs: many children are taking birth with them.

Even if some memory remains – because it is very difficult for a child to exist with a new family; if the old memory will continue to be with him- so they just sit him on a potter’s wheel and rotating him anticlockwise 7 times or 11 times – and all the memories are gone. This is how it happens.

HAIR IS A MEMORY

how to understand that person was practicing yoga in previous incarnation?

Guruji: the understanding will be much deeper than a normal person and he or she will start trying to search the right path from the very early times.

so it is not suitable for such a person to shave his head and remove his memories?

Guruji: he will remember: it’s absolutely different situation.

practice he will remember no matter shaved or not?

Guruji: no, this is to remove the family memories.

LIFE IS AN EXCLUSIVE CHANCE FOR DEVELOPMENT

when the mind manifests itself in the different forms, when one body is destroyed and another is taken…

Guruji: you’re quoting from Gita?

yes, from 2nd chapter: where consciousness goes when body is no more?

Guruji: it is like fragrance of the flower: it will continue. And then it will take another body because there is a chance to develop it even more. Physical body required of 5 elements: to develop the consciousness to its limitless limits.

who decides, which body will be taken exactly?

Guruji: there are senior minds – they decide. We have a saying in hindi: everybody has a father.

they decide for the spirit – or they decide for the consciousness to develop?

Guruji: they can do anything; the spirit is there just provide you with life – means a chance: to develop or not to develop. Such a fine thing: consciousness!

is it possible that the consciousness is put into the body with the plan: not in this life, not in the next, but after 10 lives it will develop?

Guruji: no, there is open field everywhere. It is just like that: when genetically endowed person will join any gym, the old masters can take a look at him and say: yes, if he will work hard – he can become a champion. Only few people can say – after ten lives he will attain this or that: it’s never a general thing. Those, who are genetically endowed.

in so many puranas described how devatas are trying to destroy somebody’s tapas…

Guruji: only Indra! Because he was afraid to lose his status.

so nowadays this situation is no more and everyone can develop?

Guruji: they may do whatever they want. He was a very great king of gods: so instead of interfering himself he created family and society to do that( smiling)

but now we cannot say that raja Bali will create the obstacles for anyone to develop?

Guruji: no, he is too great personality. We have great faith in him!

could a person be an animal in next life?

Guruji: yes, it’ s possible. Vice versa also. It’s very much possible.

Guruji: local mafia. Whoever is ruling in that area.

so if he is under Christians – he goes to their local mafia?

Guruji: according to their dogma they are waiting for a judgement day and the last rituals take sure that the person will not take another birth. Until judgement will happen – they will not go to heaven, they will not go to hell.

but nowadays not many people do last rituals: they cremate the dead one and forget?

Guruji: if cremation is taking place – it’s the very high chance to take another birth. Seven generations of ancestors may help him. Usually they help.

how sayat (one of the spirits who came to PremDarbar - his age is more than 4000 years and he killed a lot of people) could stay in astral world for 4000 years?

Guruji: he had some power that he achieved while he was living: it’s just like money you earn and you can spend your life in retirement without worry.

he did some tapas or some rituals?

Guruji: some tapas. Some very strong connection with some very powerful astral being.

he met with the godfather of local mafia?

Guruji: yes, who offered him unconditional friendship.

but sayat killed people – for what?

Guruji: there has to be some reason – maybe he was forced to do that. Maybe he was ordered to do that. The soldier hasn’t animosity to the soldier in opposite site, he receive the order and he has to kill or to be killed. They are not paid to think.

it exists some time period between the death and taking another birth or it depends on situation?

Guruji: it only depends on the situation.

and what is minimum and maximum time frame?

Guruji: few minutes to many years. Depends on the power of the deceased or who will helping him or her.

if deceased is very sinful and someone do ritual for him – what does it mean? He have very good birth or what?

Guruji: we believe in Gita, that a very sinful person will take birth in extremely sinful family. So the very heavy chance come to him from the very beginning.

but the person, who did the last ritual – put the bad karma on himself?

Guruji: usually they are vast away.

is it possible to recognize that some another spirit – like naga for example – living now in a human body?

Guruji: easily. They will be born with the certain marks on their bodies. I have seen a girl with a serpent birth mark on her back. This mark is very important: in many ancient books it’s the exactly mark for Kundalini. I saw it on her back when she was about one year old.

she is practicing yoga now?

Guruji: I hope. Her nature is very different. She has great devotion for us but I don’t know how much she is practicing. Now she is grown up. This is only once I have seen such mark – but I’ve read about it in many ancient books. It’s impossible to believe that human could have such mark on the left side of back, just behind the heart. She’s extraordinary, highly talented, extraordinarily intelligent – she is good. Interesting observation – what she is going to do, because such spirits don’t take birth just for nothing – until unless there is specific purpose for their comes.

have You seen some another cases – maybe with man spirits?

Guruji: even in the books it is written that only a woman will take birth like that. Nagini. Nagas I’ve met – but never seen a boy. Only baby girl you can see when her parents show You – otherwise grown never show you back. Her parents were worried – but I calm them down and said that she was born with the special abilities. She must be now 24 or 25.

in Gorakhbodh it is said that we will remember our first birth: how it will be?

Guruji: you will remember it and you will see the progression of that particular being, who went through many-many births.

will you remember the gap in between the births also?

Guruji: yes, everything. So many things – and it will be difficult for you to adjust with normal people. But then you learn to adjust also.

and we will see it in other people also?

Guruji: most of the stories are identical, no big difference. You can see the person with his previous lives, yes.

RAMA

could we say about past lives by the body?

Guruji: of course, very easily.

he will be not so much involved in it?

Guruji: his physical trace will be different than an average person. His features, face, structure will be different. His talks will be very different, his likes and dislikes will be very different. You can see it from the beginning.

it’s like the features You told about Arjuna?

Guruji: yes – he never become a yogi.

where such body features are described?

Guruji: some of them are described in Agni purana, some in Garuda purana also – the complete work; and in Valmiki Ramayana highest features are described by Hanuman – when he has gone to Lanka and meet Sitaji there in the garden and she doubt whether he is genuine person or someone sent by Ravana. Then he describes Lord Rama physical features in detail – they are supposed to be the highest symbolic things. Must read thing.

Only if you achieve something really valuable in this body you can retain it. But sometimes it is useful to take another body.

but while changing the body we must remember all our past experience

Guruji: with enough practice and enough time this experience will come – you will remember all your past. If the child remember his past life, he never will tolerate his present family and always try to find his past. So not to remember is the god’s grace. But for yogi it is needed to establish identity.

but if we take birth again and again – we are spending time to be a child, to have education

Guruji: that force that makes us to take the birth wants us to experience theta state of mind again and again.

Guruji: There is not much discussion in our lineage about this taking birth and reincarnation. But the hindu religion has gone into extreme detail, defining it. Birth in the earthly realm – or in the physical body – is considered as very important; because only in this body- it’s a combination of 5 elements and a bundle of so much information is stored in this physical body. So taking birth in a physical body is not exactly a punishment or something: it’s a very great opportunity to study.

All the 5 elements, whatever essence they are carrying- they are also eternal elements; nobody exactly knows who created them – they are supposed to be eternal and endless. If these endless elements are coming together – there has to be a special purpose. Eternal existing 5 elements are coming together, formulating this so-called physical birth: but it’s not exactly physical birth – it’s a combination of the 5 and the spirit, which is absolutely formless and beyond these 5 elements.

It is coming to a habit, that a combination of the 5 elements – so it can study something. Maybe eternal existence or the different type of combination- what education they can give or what wisdom may come by associating with these 5 elements in many different ways. Here I will mention that wisdom is the greatest entertainment. So the eternal beings like a spirit or 5 elements – it’s an entertainment for them: different combinations, different associations, different play, different game, different states: and the eternal play is on, continuously. Endless game they are playing. And the greatest entertainment – wisdom, gyana, is for them.

Incarnation exactly is not described in Kriya yoga lineage. Most of the people, who practiced Kriya yoga – mostly Babaji decides or the Guru decides and very rarely I’ve seen them taking another birth. So you can relax. I’ve never ever come across in any religious book, who created the 5 elements. They were already there.

At the same time the cycle is the same, no matter how many centuries or thousands of years passed; what kind of entertainment if it’s the same routine again and again?

Guruji: Nature is not repeating. Thanks to the science we now know that not a single fingerprint has been repeated; there is always a different element – for the mundane or uneducated mind it's the same repetition, but it is not. Many different emotions, many different situations: everybody is living in his or her world, they are not the same.

I’m talking about the cycle of disintegrating the elements…

Guruji: They go back to their source – then they again form another combination, maybe learning from the past combination something new is coming. It’s fantastic play: eternal forces playing an eternal game and we’re part of it. False identity: when you just think “I am I” – but you’re just a combination of the 5 eternal elements and spirit, who is already endless and beginningless. We need to understand the eternity they’re carrying inside.

MYSTICAL STORIES PART 5 / NIRMALA DEVI

I was living on my farm cottage in Gwalior, my home town – maybe it was in 1991. I was sleeping and I saw like a dream: the woman came flying. She was wear white red-bordered saree, like Bengali woman. She just landed on my overhead and jumped down – I came out of my room. She said: “my name is Nirmala Devi and I have something very important with you. So please come to me to Mithani” In the vision I saw a lane and one very old-fashioned house – that’s it. These names – Nirmala devi and Mithani – stuck in my mind. Then I went to Vrindavan, so many circumstances were in my life and I was wondering where is such a place – Mithani? After some time we were sitting here; some disciple from Gwalior visiting me. We were sitting and talking and somehow subject came up. One disciple said – I know Mithani, it is near Asansol. I’ve asked him to inquire about Nirmala Devi. And he discovered that she was the wife of the most ferocious landowner here, mafia boss. When they hear the name – they become to worry, but my disciple explained them, that Guru had a vision – and then fantastic story were coming up. The man told that he saw her – same saree, same place I have described – she stand on a distance. She looks exactly the same I saw her. The story was: she was married when she was 13-14 years old. It was custom in India in those days. He was about thirty. When they met first time in the night, he asked: who do you love and respect more than me? She was innocent and said: my Guru. He said – ok, now do whatever your Guru has told you, I will not touch you; and I will give you a house there and we will never be like husband and wife, man and woman. I will marry another woman and you just practice what your Guru have told you. See the situation? And she spend the whole life time practicing the mantra of Chinnamasta, which her Guru gave her. All her life she remain force celibate because he put guards over her. Nobody could see her, she could not go out anywhere. She lived there near 60 years. I think she got some blessings from the goddess because she was able to contact me. When I visited Asansol – she was already dead. Then some more years passed; one husband and wife became my disciples. They were childless. I don’t know how it happen – but one day they visited me I said: you must adopt the girl. Go to the orphanage – and the first girl, who will reach to you – adopt her. They came back, went to orphanage and saw the girl only 2-3 months old, who smiled to them and tried to hug them. Of course their hearts beaten and they adopted her. And she is the same Nirmala Devi, that had something important for me. Now she is grown up, started to study cinematography and photography in Calcutta Academy – they brought up her very well. She is very very good girl. They usually visited me once or twice a year.

she remembers something from her past life experience?

Guruji: I’m sure she’s not ordinary. She’s already initiated and practicing very regularly; and she’s very creative – because talent and spiritual powers can be expressed in different ways.

who was the Guru of Nirmala Devi?

Guruji: that we don’t know, but he was sannyasi. The effect of karma is very complicated, mysterious and amazing.

after 60 years of practice she must have the very great powers?

Guruji: I’m sure about it. That is the grace of the goddess: she created the situation.

DEJA VU

what do You think on phenomena of déjà vu?

Guruji: very simple to me: it’s just past life remembrance, that you were there before. If you go to the same place which you’ve already been there previous life – you will remember something. You cannot miss it: it’s not like some foggy memory of something: you know exactly – yes, I know this place, I was here before.

when You read the “Autobiography of the yogi” You had that feeling – déjà vu?

Guruji: only few names were familiar; and photograph of Lahiri Mahasaya. I was surprised that how this old man is here? I know him. But I’ve never seen him before – then I read about him. And some names there was very familiar.

You said very interesting thing: that if something happened – it is already recorded in time and you with enough power you can enjoy it permanently?

Guruji: I mean in that particular time frame. I told that person, who lost his loved one: he was very sad, his loss was great for him. I told him: in that particular time frame you’re still living with her.

That is permanently – no one can take it away. If you somehow find time machine and go back in time – you will find her living in that particular time frame. If he is capable enough to create a loop in time- he may relive these things in a better way again and again. Maybe he will have a better behaviour with her now – because he’s knowing exactly that he is going to lose her – so he will take extra care for her, more love her.

it was even a movie with Eva Green starring; is it possible to create such a loop in time?

Guruji: I think it is possible. And I think – most of us loved to have a second chance on the previous life: so we can live it in a better way or we can treat some people in a better way and allowed them to treat us in a better way.

maybe only yogis doesn’t want a second chance?

Guruji: yogis are different. We don’t want to move in circle. We’re trying to create a straight line in the Universe.

BORN – LIVED – DIED – BORN…

Very interesting to note: your moment of birth, the planetary situation, especially mahadasha will be the same as at the time of death in your previous life. This I have noticed in a few cases.

There is no gap in between?

Guruji: It is a continuation: when you take a shower and change your clothes – it doesn’t mean that your clothes are dying.

But You said once that atma could reincarnate only in the past?

Guruji: The moment you take birth – you’re representing the past. When you’re out of your body – you’re in the moment of the present. Body represents the past millions of years old sense in us.

Is it true that atma gets the incarnation, maximally not similar to each other – to get a different experience?

Guruji: The basic habits will remain the same. It is very difficult to break the vicious circle of your habits. You can go on and on.

So should I try to break the habits?

Guruji: First you need to understand that you have this habit.

And then try to change it?

Guruji: Then – maybe. That is the real struggle. And we don’t like to struggle (smiling) that’s why progressive resistance training is much needed.

Do you remember the story of the woman, who was too much into cleanliness and was a prostitute in previous life? Does it mean that what we are attached to in this life – we were completely not attached or even hated in the previous life?

Guruji: The basic impression will be the same. She was about cleanliness because she suffered from some bad diseases, just to be careful this time. But we don’t know about her private life.

But the story about Shrivastav? He was very careful in this life and stay away from any weapon

Guruji: And he also had the very strong intuition that he died in an accident from the beginning. He was very careful in driving – but he died in an accident. That was fixed for him. I’ve really seen some extraordinary cases.

When you will talk about your atma, your jivatma – then the talk on immortality will come. but every religion is saying that the spirit is immortal.

Is it experience for the spirit?

Guruji: A fter you will experience what will happen after – you will know. Everybody is discussing immortality: jivatma is immortal, spirit is immortal, soul is eternal – who is not talking about immortality? I think – when you’ll make billions, you’ll stop discussing money. After you become immortal – you will not maybe even discuss immortality. Then you’ll become interested in studying immortals.

Q : if someone reached Samadhi and decided to die?

Guruji : with Samadhi he will establish the identity of the spirit and whenever he will take another birth – the memories, the knowledge and all the wisdom be continue.

Q : and to again achieve Samadhi state?

Guruji : because the body will be new – new body will need some training.

Q : it takes about 30 or more years?

Guruji : no, it can be much sooner. But training will always be needed. It will be much easier, because you already know. He will get much better body also next time.

HOW TO OBTAIN THE NEXT BIRTH

before the judge of Yama the spirit or ghost is roaming somewhere – is that true?

Guruji: they travel for one year to reach Yamaloka. It is 84 yojans – thousands yojans away from Earth.

what happens with the ghost during this travelling?

Guruji: they are just travelling surrounding by Yamduts like shepherds. Whatever monthly things are given to them by their families – they travel on that.

and when he reaches Yamaloka he is decided for the new birth?

Guruji: by accessing all his karmas and results. Nowadays we see more ghosts roaming; if Yamduts have taken them – they cannot escape: so something is different now. We are observing it for the last 25 years.

so nowadays you have no need to wait for one year to take another birth?

Guruji: it depends. Some accidental cases have birth very soon; otherwise there is always a gap. They just roaming or hovering around their families from whom they are expect to do something for them.

is it possible situation, that some animal will die some terrible death – and will granted a beautiful human body in the next birth as a gift?

Guruji: no. animals are more advanced than us.

I’ve read somewhere, that if the animal died like a food for a human – he can attain a human body in next birth?

Guruji: to take revenge. And that human will take birth as an animal- and that circle will continue.

K: That’s probably why life after life those who have to advance were pulled over to the yogic practice?

G: Yes. They carry on; continue.

K: One lifetime is not enough.

G: But then again, I will say another thing. We say “ different lifetime” – but no, it is just a single lifetime, you are only changing the bodies. Different bodies, different situations, but it is one lifetime of the Spirit that continues. For everybody, not just for yogi. Yogis may become aware of it, other people are not aware; we live a single lifetime.

so You think now the line between the worlds is more subtle?

Guruji: more narrow, yes. It may

disappear one day and I hope it will be the very good idea: guess if somebody

kill someone and a killed person immediately becomes a ghost and start to

punish him. then only human beings will become a little bit disciplined.

That was

the story of my disciple, who has the birth marks on his stomach – and he was

killed in his previous life by shooting exactly that way. He was also very much

afraid of firearms and he had an impression – I may die in an accident. And he

died in an accident. He had to live two lives instead of one; let’s see how his

karmic analyzing will come. it’s amazing that man who shoot him just was taking

lunch with me; then he was coming and just by looking on the face of the

colonel he remembered his past birth. He became so emotional; after colonel

went away – then he told me the story.

his face were the same?

Guruji: no, only spots. Very serious

looking man, even sad looking.

maybe it was his own mind who creates that program of death?

Guruji: no, it was something else.

don’t You think that after his death he could sit with Shiva or Bhairava…

Guruji: no, they’re too high: it’s like you

set from your job and will sit with president Putin. Somebody very low is

enough. Directly go and sit with Shiva is too big.

but can he ask someone on the other side about his next life?

Guruji:

no, they are judge in a different, very stern way; life plan is given to them

and they have to go to that life plan exactly. Their mind is programmed that

way.

WHY NOBODY IS BORN PERFECT?

how and who decides when and where we will take the new birth?

Guruji: there are so big number of souls – so everybody is waiting in a very long queue. Like waiting for the opportunity. It is very strict order there.

can the human be born as an animal next time – or it’s always evolution?

Guruji: anything is possible.

one time I’ve heard that evolution cannot be backwards?

Guruji: Darwin theory doesn’t apply here. Even though, when you look at some people face – you suspect: maybe Darwin was right( laughing)

what they are doing – standing in that queue and waiting for another birth?

Guruji: the time sense is different.

so for them it could be like few seconds?

Guruji: for evolved ones; otherwise 1 second may look like 10 years to them.

so they are boring most of the time?

Guruji: yes; remorse, depression.

if someone will do ritual for them?

Guruji: it supports, yes. Everybody needs help.

it must be existing and vice versa ritual – that makes them suffer more?

Guruji: no, their own karma and mental development, attitude – all these things matters.

Why nobody is born perfect? Because nobody knows the facts of life. If you don’t know the facts – you can never be as per fact.

what do You think about the rite of invoking or inviting some great soul to take birth?

Guruji: you cannot invite; if your physical and mental standard is to their liking – only then they will come on their own. They don’t come by invitation. The high souls only come when they see mental and spiritual level, and physical level, genetics are to their liking. Only thing you can do is to prepare yourself as best as you can and wait for the right planetary situation. If you’re planning for it – my suggestion is plan a baby between august 2019 to august 2020. Expected very powerful souls to come.

the situation is like in 2012?

Guruji: no, before that.

what is peculiarities of that planetary situation?

Guruji: Jupiter will be in a very good situation. Very good situation for getting a baby – but for us also. If I’m ok – all my disciples will be ok.

GOAL of YOGA

Q: is really the goal of death is life?

Guruji: yes. Even in Gita Krishna say this. Who are taking birth – he will die: that also means whoever will die – will take another birth. Two sides of a coin.

Q: so the endless cycle for those who becoming aware will stop one day if you consciously make the choice to understand this?

Guruji: you may not hope to stop it – you may make it more interesting. Because if you will reach to that level – your creativity will become immense and you will find so many things to entertain yourself by keep coming back again and again.

Q: but can you be an objective observer of the cycle?

Guruji: why not? All depends on our brain development and depth of our understanding.

Q: you will accept all transformations and ageing process of your own body as unavoidable path – you’re just observing?

Guruji: we have heard this statement: I never die – I just change bodies. That will come to that. Only one thing I observe and keep discussing: there is only main reason for don’t want to take another birth again: you will have to go to school one more time. This nobody likes.

Q: I remember when we discuss we were saying that we have not give the agreement to birth – but you say no?

Guruji: you’ve already signed the contract.

Q: does it mean that by choosing the body – you have no choice?

Guruji: we want to be in the deciding situation, to have a choice. To choose the birth is the really big achievement. Who wants to go to the school one more time? Not me.

Q: my school was very nice – and I would love to go again

Guruji: you need psychiatric treatment

Q: choosing the birth is the condition for reaching the source of the first birth?

Guruji: it is just the level of development that you’ll have to achieve.

Q: to make the choice of the birth is easier than reach the source?

Guruji: to reach the source is much more deeper.

Q: but it’s necessary?

Guruji: no. that’s the point – nothing is necessary

Q: human birth is not guaranteed?

Guruji: not always, yes. I can give an example: look at the Jataka’s story of Buddha – they describe 200 different births; he was born as a monkey, as a lion – all these things. No problem.

Q: seems like a big problem – spending a lot of time being a monkey

Guruji: read the story of incarnations of Vishnu

Q: so nothing is guaranteed?

Guruji: that’s up to you – how you make your story, how you develop; how much you can make it entertaining.

Q: as they say in the criminal justice: no body – no case

Guruji: yes

Q: can we say that no body – no karma?

Guruji: you have to establish the motive when the time will come.

Q: the motive for the birth is always there?

Guruji: it always be there.

Q: is this the motive just to continue to exist?

Guruji: every birth is necessary for you to believe that you continue to exist. Physical body may be providing this big feeling that – yes, I’m existing.

Q: most of the rebirth are urge of atma to get into envelope?

Guruji: I think so, yes. And remember, they say in Gita – the body is like clothes. I don’t think you will love to go naked – until unless you’re on the certain level. Meat suit. Recently I remember a very good dialogue from Mr. Amitabh Bachchan: any fool will know about the truth – but only wise understands the difference between lie and the truth. I agree with this.

Every incarnation will bring you to different emotionally state, different situation, different problem, different fulfillments of your desires, different happinesses. Every incarnation will help you in evolving further.

why do we strive to live no incarnation?

Guruji: we never say it – it’s only sadhus preach of it. In Gita Krishna saying – I was taking so many births and you were taking so many births – I remember, you no. If someone has the problems for taking many births – why should we have problems? Every new birth gives you new adventures.

how it corresponds with Gita which tells the beauty of living without new birth?

Guruji: you will continue to incarnate on this planet until you actually achieve the most perfect physical body; then the chance to become immortal will be there.

what is criteria of perfect body here?

Guruji: there are 32 different signs on the body – shape etc. there is a place in Ramayana where Hanuman is talking with Sita in Ravana’s place and to prove that he’s from Rama he describes Rama from head to foot. That description is of perfect body. You must read it.