Yantras, mandalas and symbols

HOW YANTRAS ORIGINATED

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The life of two moments , we have to take one lifetime. Two moments birth and death are representing duality, one lifetime is non - duality.

That 4 yantras were the last from the 10 ones.

which yantras came the last?

Guruji: Matangi, Bhuvaneshwari, Kamala also; and maybe Shodashi – they mixed up in my mind now.

why they came exactly in this sequence – one first, others later?

Guruji: I’m still thinking on that. Less popular came the last. Most popular and known were first to arrive.

but Kamala yantra and Shri Yantra…

Guruji: different. Shodashi and Shri maybe one and the same. We are waiting what is next.

and You know in how exact sequence they must be installed?

Guruji: yes, I was told that.

but coming back for yantras: less popular doesn’t mean less powerful?

Guruji: they are equally powerful. They are maybe waiting for the certain time frame. But feeling is very different: they must be affecting the whole area. And I’ve never seen similar things anywhere.

are they connected somehow with dhuni?

Guruji: yes, 4 came after dhuni: so we can connect. Or maybe dhuni was needed for all 10 to be here. 6 were here before; after that dhuni came – then 4 more came. My sister had a vision: at 4 o’clock she woke everybody: that behind that room – we’ll be going and see it now. We called Mahatmajialso because it was locked; it was so rusty – he had to break the lock here. They were sitting inside with a note in red – ink or vermillion or something: a leaf was there. And there we saw the footprints of 2 inches- or 2,5 inches and 18-19 inches together. We still don’t know to whom they belong.

what about first 6? They came 2 then 4?

Guruji: first Babaji himself give – only one; then 2 came then again 2 came. Then 1 came. Kali and Tara came together and a smell of blood was everywhere. It was very scary. Babaji himself gave Shri Yantra.

and how Kali and Tara came?

Guruji: one man came; he took somebody’s name I don’t like – so I refused. Mahatmaji was visiting Shyam Bihari: they went to a shop, gave him that big heavy bag, - give it to him. And he brought it – and then were those 2 yantras. Then we assembled and put them - and blood smell begin. Few Bengali disciples, they visiting – they recognised this is a smell of blood. Wherever I was moving – the smell of blood will follow. It was very scary; then I prayed and this stopped.

why it was? They were demanding something?

Guruji: no idea!

and the person who brought – You don’t know?

Guruji: no, I didn’t see him. Then Ganganath brought 2 – no, they were in the bag: there were 3.

MANTRA-YANTRA-TANTRA

when we see the picture of yantra – that is not the yantra itself?

Guruji: it’s just a blueprint of that machine.

is that not an object for the meditation to make the mind very calm?

Guruji: I will keep quiet, go on.

some books says – yantra is like the body of some mantra?

Guruji: actually, the figure of the yantra is just the blueprint; maybe they are like UFOs or flying machines – they looks like it.

the question is – first the mantra was created?

Guruji: mantra means a secret. With that particular vibration you can make it fly for interdimensional thing.

what was the first – mantra or yantra?

Guruji: first mantra, then yantra. Mantra – yantra- tantra: mantra – the secret, yantra – machine, and then the technical knowledge how to use it. Maybe they were using them for interdimensional travelling.

and that particular deity is like commander of that ship?

Guruji: could be, yes. Not exactly commander: yantra will take you to that particular dimension.

what is the meaning of the word yantra?

Guruji: yantra literally means “machine”. They are like laboratory things. That is machine, which can teleport you to particular spirit. But only blueprint remains – original yantras are disappeared. All you see is just design of machines, and if you see the blueprint of machine – it’s impossible to imagine the machine.

but your yantras are genuine?

Guruji: I’ve never see equal of them.

they are magic or science?

Guruji: science, look like magic. And magic maybe some kind of science.

in ancient time there were lot of them?

Guruji: no, they were always rare. It was only for important people, yogis, those, who knew.

what do You think about installing Shri Yantra or the picture of Shri Yantra?

Guruji: it’s very common – many vastu shastries and astrologers are recommending this. Some temples on south were built exactly by the blueprint of it. Very prosperous temples. Like Tirupati Balaji – it’s built on Shri Yantra and it’s the most prosperous temple. But maybe the real principle must be different. Prosperity is a temporary thing. It’s no harm to try – if it’s temporary, have it.

SYMBOLISM OF THE CROSS

what will be if the cross will be used somewhere like a symbol?

Guruji: it’s the symbol of seven Matrikas, they live on the centre of the crossroad. If you go to the grassroots level tantra – it’s most basic symbol of doing any ritual.

normal or diagonal cross?

Guruji: anyway

what if that cross is in the circle?

Guruji: it matters to invoke different powers. I’m living in the centre of crossroad – and I don’t know what will happen.

maybe when someone is crucified it’s like a sacrifice?

Guruji: probably like a sacrifice to Chandi.

because I don’t remember any woman crucified?

Guruji: never. Women is never sacrificed in tantra.

from where the cult of Matrikas started?

Guruji: everything were started with magic: every religion is based on some magic.

seven Matrikas – are they part of the Shakti?

Guruji: they are separate powers. Chandi is considered to be the sister of Shiva.

she’s the only one who is not connected with the male deity? All others are like Varahi or Indri?

Guruji: but there is a very powerful gana: Chandabhairav – maybe they are connected

those origin: Chandi and other Matrikas – are the same like Shiva Ji?

Guruji: the origin is not known. It is only one description when Shiva Ji was going to marry Parvati, Chandi acted as his sister, took kalash on her head and went to him. That is only one reference. That also tells us how powerful she is.

USAGE OF SYMBOLS

Tibetans in their six yogas given by Naropa are using vajras: are they used in Kriya yoga system?

Guruji: god has already giving you vajra. You just need to invoke it and feel its energy. Remember, vajra is the original weapon of the king of gods – Indra; it was built with the ribs and the spinal column of Dadhich rishi. So you also have vajra: you need to strengthen it. Simply carrying a symbol will be nothing: it will just remain a symbol. And over the time, over the years you will become so attached with that particular symbol that your mind will remain close for other things. Using unnecessary symbols are not recommended. That’s a point.

so we have everything inside us already?

Guruji: vajra at least – it is there. And how you’re going to electrify it? Vajra – like thunderbolt – so wake up your subconscious mind and it will be energised and great energy will flow. Simple approach!

so what do You think how this confusion started: instead of waking up inside someone put it outside?

Guruji: I will say: because some disciples were idiots and they were asking unnecessary questions: how it looks, how it looks? – so they draw a sort of a diagram: like this! – and they begin to carry it as a symbol, symbol of power. And again: it is a desire of everybody – dominate others; when they are trying to dominate others – they also trying to look different than normal people. Keep your mind free!

YANTRAS

what is yantras?

Guruji: like superbeing can have more human form – but more super thing; yantras maybe their real physical structure.

they are alive?

Guruji: of course. They are suppose to be alive.

I read in some purana when Shiva Ji appeared in the mountain form, and then all gods began to appear in mountain forms – is it the same?

Guruji: it maybe same; mountain is like upward triangle, and upward triangle is a symbol of Shiva.

so mountains are the forms of some deities?

Guruji: yes. Or the breast of the Mother Earth.

is it some connection between tantra and European magic traditions and kabbala?

Guruji: I think all yantras is everywhere. They has to be same roots. India is most ancient cradle of such things – many of them went out of here. Maybe some things evolve in Europe and Russia on their own. American continent also. Wherever is someone living – there are spirits there, different powers are there, and the natural powers are there, natural spirits are there. Maybe if some sensitive person is there – the contact is possible. Not all human beings are idiots, so they discovered certain principles on the way.

why all the yantras use only strictly geometrical forms?

Guruji: geometry is the basis of all creation. By using certain geometrical patterns you are invoking certain power from creation.

the square shape is connected with the earth element?

Guruji: yes, but there are different uses of that also.

what is the difference between yantra and mandala?

Guruji: yantras is always dedicated to certain gods and goddesses. And mandala is to invoke the certain power there, to create different effect. Mandala is just like yantra also. Every village woman knows to create certain mandala. They make it with flour, etc. it is done for prosperity and peace. It’s too much deep things.