Siddhis, magic and miracles

All we know quite a lot about shamans. And they are very much knowledgeable people. They are connected with natural spirits, also. They can feel the spirits of the nature, trees, and everything. And sometimes shamans know far more than so-called philosophers. He is helping. That is the main thing. Helping anyone is a very good thing. And if you know something, and even then you are denying help to the needy, this is not a good thing. So, shamans are doing good. I will tell you I had so many friends. Uh we were friends with one of the Gurus who was a very knowledgeable person. And we were very good friends. And he will tell one thing, and I will repeat it to you.

"This kind of knowledge is spread all over the place. Some of it is documented in texts, some are transmitted through traditions."

“It’s hard to distinguish what is true and what is bogus.”

Guruji: “Yes, only with experience you can tell what is possible and what is not. It’s a research work.

"There was a pundit in Mathura who had gained control over a yakshini (a powerful ethereal being). There are lots of ways described in tantras to gain control over different kinds of yakshinis.

"He could do miracles with the help of that Yakshini, like being able to tell anything about anybody, causing hail-storms, raining of stones, etc. But when he was about to die, he realized the terrible consequences he was going to suffer. So he called his sons and told them this ‘I’m sending her to a far-off place. Before she returns, tie my body to a heavy stone and drown me in Yamuna river, otherwise she’ll take me with her’. See that’s the point. If you enslave an astral being for material gains, you won’t be able to get away from it after death. They are powerful in that domain! You force them to be a slave against their will. If she had served him out of her own will, it would have been perfectly fine.

“So he sent her away and before she could come back, he drowned himself in the river. What happened afterward is just unimaginable! It rained blood in their house, his dead body when recovered was found filled with human feces in the mouth! It was unmentionable what all happened to them. That’s why the wise men have said ‘Beware! All such businesses have a terrible end.’ You get some publish adulation but ultimately suffer the consequences yourself.

“Guruji, what do these ethereal being generally do?”

Guruji: ‘Well, these ethereal beings have a totally different sense of time from us. What a lifetime is for us could be just a day or two for them. And they have very long lifespans – thousands and even millions of years long. They live very long!

“If people know about these terrible consequences, why do they do these things – force ghosts, yakshinis, etc, to do their bidding?”

Guruji: “For greed, for fame, public adulation, for earning money, doing business, impressing people, what else! Feeling of power is very intoxicating. Everybody wants credit for doing favors, everybody wants people to sit at their feet and worship them as gods. All these things lead people on these paths."

“Guruji, are there any tantric practices in our yoga tradition as well?”

Guruji: “No, we don’t have a system to force anybody against their will. They can contact us on their own, and they do. That is a better option, if there’s friendship on an equal footing. Remember, friendship lasts only among equals. When you are able to raise your standards to their level, they’ll automatically contact you. Before that, it’ll be forced.

"Even this name you must have heard, Mahamahopadhyay Gopinath Kaviraj. He went mad in the end! He also developed rectum cancer. Anandamayi Ma took care of him in her hospital. He was trying to gain control over a yakshini. That ritual failed and he went mad and died as if he was suffering in hell! He had a really terrible death.

"Think of it this way – you are blackmailing a very powerful person to do your bidding. The day you loose your hold, he’ll destroy you. And when you deal on equal terms and you yourself have become powerful, there might be a friendship. That has always been the difference and will always remain so. And self-progress can only happen through Yoga; there’s no other way. Self power can only increase through yoga. And the purpose of Yoga is always perfectly clear! Instead of catching some other spirit to gain knowledge about the spiritual world, why not control your own spirit and gain that knowledge – didn’t it also come from the spiritual domain? And you don’t blackmail yourself.

Understand the Mind of the Creator

"People often create this mental block that if you desire siddhis or go after them, then you can never attain self-realization."

Guruji: "That is most idiotic statement in my opinion. If you are practicing yoga, it's results include these capacities. They've been described in detail, in Yoga Darshan and other texts. On the other hand, these instructions have been adulterated by the various devotional cults over time, that 'thou shall not acquire any grandeur lest thou shall lose thy path'. How can anybody get lost?? There’s no other way to go! This is a journey from birth to death, and this is the path of life! ('???? ?? ?????? ?? ?? ?????? ??, ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ???? ??'). Who can deviate from this path, you tell me. There’s no chance. Now it's possible that sometimes we pause for analysis, sometimes we relax, but there’s not possibility of getting lost.

"And they say that 'our guru is so great that he’s guiding the disciples away from any glory so that the disciple doesn't get lost!' But the truth is, the guru doesn't even have know any such art which could win them any glory. I've see many such people, keep fooling others like this. There's so much hypocrisy in the world, man! But what do we care, we can analyze even the hypocrites. That’s why I’ve written in all my books, ‘To the seekers of truth’. And truth is not just one-dimensional. It is multifaceted, diverse, and multidimensional. Whatever we are exploring, we trying to understand in its totality.

"As I said before, after understanding the creation we’ll be able to understand the mind of the Creator. And remember, Creator is ‘Alakh Niranjan’ - beyond carbon! Since He is beyond carbon, He is beyond this creation and not visible. What we are experiencing is His nature in our day-to-day life. First we’ll understand His nature then we’ll understand Him. Others have said that this is allmaya (illusion), we should deny it. My observation is that maya is His nature. The more we understand His nature, the more we'll become natural ourselves and understand Him better. Think of it this way: When you travel, you find dozens of fellow travelers. You can see them, touch them, but you don’t know their nature. You don’t know the person himself or herself. You just see the person. But that’s not enough. When you start talking to them, exchange thoughts, and get to know the person, then only a real friendship will develop. Got the point?"

could they somehow affect you or it’s impossible?

Guruji: I think it is possible. Only protection from it – to make yourself very strong.

but how I can protect my family?

Guruji: if you know for sure – that person is trying to harm your family, go and harm that person. Simple thing.

Now you’re my disciple – you will have spiritual protection. If you will practice regularly – it will create enough spiritual protection around you. Your own spirit, your aura become so powerful, so nothing will work on you.

You just have to be careful for eating something – that’s it. Otherwise nothing will working. You’re receive yoga initiation on smashan – it’s very powerful occult thing.

what will happen with your disciple, if he eat something?

Guruji: suppose your enemy is giving you something – you should be very careful. If it happen – go to cleansing, some slow poison may be given. Anything can happen. Be careful – that’s it.

is it possible situation that the human embodiment of some creature is so sinful that he has no pass to any astral world – he just burned without any life after death?

Guruji: never happen. But I will tell you one case when the ghost was given tax penalty. That question came to my mind and I’ve asked Hanuman Ji how it is possible? And he told – that “I will turn him into a pebble and throw him in outer space. It is as good as death for him. He will hang in a space till eternity.

but what this person did?

Guruji: some very punishable thing. He turn him into small pebble and throw him into outer space. It’s like eternal coma.

no forgiveness?

Guruji: there is no forgiveness.

Why only after somebody committing great crime and he is caught – before receiving punishment he is asking for forgiveness? He was not asking for forgiveness before committing this crime.

but what he must do to have such punishment?

Guruji: I don’t want to give you ideas.

there are lot of such cases?

Guruji: only one.

Mao tse dun or Lenin?

Guruji: two great leaders of communism are lyeing on squares unburried – it must be not a coincidence.

what do You think – where are their spirits?

Guruji: they must be there near the bodies. They are very powerful.

they are suffering because of that?

Guruji: oh, they don’t suffer.

SUPERNATURAL DISPLAYS

After my first darshan with Babaji this interest came to me so we did experiments on indrajal – and were successful in some. It was pretty spectacular to a layman, it could make an impression that the one performing it is a great siddha and a miracle worker – and I was also glutting over it for some time. Then – thanks to Babaji – a very strong thought entered my mind: are these seekers coming to you to learn yoga, or are you taking them just as customers and impressing them with all that supernatural display so they become kind of your slaves and continue to serve you while providing you with enough money and respect? What is the motive behind all these shows? And it was a very serious shock for my mind – so I thought I had to stop it immediately.

Then we stopped the experiments; because it’s easy to impress the masses, and they will take you and worship you as an avatar simply by displays of such kind. But inside you will know that you’re nobody, you’re just deceiving them in the name of god, in the name of yoga; and where here are honesty and asteya – which are initially niyamas in Yoga Sutras? So it was a pretty shocking realization for me, and I stopped after that. Since then I’ve been waiting for sincere seekers.

And I found out: the biggest miracle in this world is to find a really honest nice person. This is a magical moment when you see such a man.

I’ve never asked you about any other types of miracles – when you come to save someone’s life or when you come to help somebody – there are numerous cases.

Guruji: It started after the first darshan of Babaji, after I had left home, when I was living alone – and the second chapter of samadhi started. It was sort of a reflection of those samadhis.

The ability to help somebody?

Guruji: It happens automatically. And most of the time I was either asleep or sitting quietly.

Were you – or were you not aware about it?

Guruji: I became aware of it, yes. It started naturally by the grace of Babaji: before meeting him nothing had been happening. As long as I continued to live with my family – nothing was happening. When I had left it and started living alone – then it started. If you’re sitting alone in some deep thoughts, nobody’s even talking – and one just walks in front of you – it is enough to disturb your concentration and focus.

Did many life and death situations happen?

Guruji: Yes, many had happened after that.

Can you recall any of them – whatever is coming up in your mind?

Guruji: I will tell you the first which comes, that is brought to my mind – Michael recorded that also – about the maternal uncle of Pankaj.

They were attending the marriage somewhere in the village, and his wife, other ladies and children were going on the tractor trolley to take the bus – it was somewhere in the fields. There was a sort of climb and turns – and it was 30-40 ft on one side.

Something happened and the tractor sort of became neutral – and it began to roll back. If it had fallen – it would fall 40 ft in that big pit. Pankaj’s maternal auntie just remembered me and shouted: «Jay Guru Maharaj!» – and something came over her. She jumped from the tractor and with a single hand stopped it. With another hand she just turned the trolley – so it couldn’t move, it was turned sideways. She was shaking; people came down from the trolley safely – and then she sort of fainted. She said that Guruji came and entered inside her body and just stopped the tractor with one hand. This was the first thing I heard.

I just remember like in a dream that something was happening, and I got up very tired that morning. Then they came the next day. Then – many things happened like that. Meeting with Babaji, his darshan affected me in many strange ways – not only the technical aspect of Kriya yoga. Most of the time I became aware.

In that case with your disciple in Bali – did you become aware that he needs help?

Guruji: Yes – so many people are in astral now, I am becoming aware of so many things.

Did it also come suddenly?

Guruji: Yes; it concerns only my disciples – it doesn’t mean everybody. But I became aware – who comes to darbar, becomes aware of me and prays – sometimes things happen with them also.

Do you think it was a big mistake of Superman – trying to save the entire humanity instead of paying closer attention to his friends?

Guruji: It could be, yes. But he’s an alien – he’s not human, so he doesn’t understand the nature of humanity. It is our nature to destroy ourselves. Quotation from “Terminator”, not me.

ILLUSION OF MATERIAL WORLD PART1

Yesterday we spoke about optic illusion of material world… We talked about appearance and disappearance, about antar Dhyana – when Dhyana comes inside and the mental waves do not disturb people; this material world – is it truly material, isn’t it an illusion?

Guruji: No, the way we see – the world IS an illusion, because we see just the reflection of light from the objects. It’s the limitation of our vision.

Is it possible to create certain illusion in this world?

Guruji: Of course.

So dvaita-adwaita has nothing to do with that illusion of the world?

Guruji: No, illusion itself is very real.

But the skill of creating electromagnetic currents or trying to subdue them to the point where they are not readable by the others, creating illusion of the absence of the objects or appearance of the objects…?

Guruji: If you’re able to control the reflection of the light from any object somehow – then you can make it appear or disappear. Or maybe, you can create some illusion the way you want it to appear to others – and it will appear – simply by manipulating the reflection of light.

My question will be about the story when Babaji initiated Lahiri Mahasaya and showed him the golden palace – was he actually playing with the vision, with perception of Lahiri Mahasaya?

Guruji: No, with Babaji’s level or his stature situation is different – such siddhas can create anything. Also, they have reached a certain level of their mind development. Simply by willing something to appear, imagining it in details, they can materialize it .

Is this a re-construction of matter, which they can master to appear at will?

Guruji: Yes, they can do that.

We discussed other cases – are they in control of electromagnetic currents?

Guruji: They are in control of mental waves, yes; and somehow they are able to stop the reflection of light from any object – that will make it disappear. It is a matter of strong will. How it actually happens – I’m still thinking about it. Power of the mind!

Did you demonstrate it to Pankaj, your student?

Guruji: In 1993, when I was in Sarnath, before coming to Govardhan. Anil Sharma from Agra, Pankaj, and several of my nephews and nieces… I disappeared in front of their eyes – and it was like magic for them – they are still impressed. It’s impossible to impress a child!

Were they quite young then?

Guruji: They were children, yes. My niece Neha was maybe 7 or 8 when I showed it to her. I told them to close their eyes and when they opened them – I was not in front of them, I disappeared.

THE POWER OF THE NAME OF GURUJI

Many times it happen: rain stop, very strong wind was coming down.

every time we tried to go out of the city - even it was the close direction about no more than 50 kms - the weather turned awful in seconds?

Guruji: one thing I will say: you’re a yogi - nature are protecting you and supporting you: maybe they are stopping you for certain reason. so we must listen to the nature. Until unless that is emergency and you have to go: then you just take my name, result will come im 5-7 minutes. many people experienced that. even though it’s a surprise for me, I don’t know, how it works.

we heard about snakes, ants and even bats

Guruji: now the heavy rains. And one idiot tried to experiment of some other holy man’s name - and it increased more( laughing)

You remember our talk about weather conditions when we tried to move out? Maybe it’s the suggestion that yogi must remain and practicing in one place – so after some time the place may hold the yogi?

Guruji: no: it is only that nature maybe trying to protect you. Maybe some accident was waiting or something. This is not always an obstacle – it maybe the your support also. My first disciple – he is no more now; he died years before. He was coming from somewhere; something happen and the bus conductor made him go out of the bus: there was some hot argument with the driver. So he was pushed out of the bus, took another one; and after half and hour, when they reached he saw that bus had big accident just there. He survived.

VISUALISATION – TRAINING FOR YOUR MIND

About tantric practices: there are certain complicated visualizations, for example connected with the form of Ishta devata; is it closer to the bhakti or it’s an attempt to establish the connection and receive the grace from the certain deity or is it a transformation of the practitioner, merging with this Ishta devata?

Guruji: Well, everybody is missing the very obvious thing: by teaching us how to visualize a deity or something – it is a very deep training for our mind and for our imagination. When you’re in the Void – or let’s say on the other side; only the capacity of your mind or visualization or imagination will come to help you. People label it as “bhakti”, people label it as “tantra” – it’s a very great training for your imagination. Concentrated focused imagination is very much needed on the other side.

Is it in an attempt to merge with the deity?

Guruji: No, definitely it’s not an attempt to merge – it’s just to train your mind. Where will you merge? You will always retain your individuality; look at the water – salt is dissolving, sugar is dissolving,- but go the micro-micro level: you will see the separate molecule here – of water, of salt; it’s just a point of view. Individuality will remain forever. The point is to establish your own reality in this world of imagination or a dreamworld, or maya, illusion: you’re making your presence real. That’s why this visualization is just a training for your mind and consciousness and imagination, concentrated imagination.

WHAT ARE YOUR LOOKS?

There are so many texts which are saying that you will become one with the projected image?

Guruji: As you consider yourself – so you will become; maybe you will begin to look like. What are your looks? It is your mind’s perception of yourself. Maybe; the image will be imposed on you.

We’re carrying a certain mark of Yours: many practitioners, who practice sincerely and very well – their looks are becoming a little bit like You?

Guruji: I have noticed that; but as the Guru is – so the disciple will become also. It’s a very good sign. That also tells me that their mind started to work in the same gear – maybe towards the same direction.

They are walking the same path?

Guruji: Yes, they are all sputniks.

DEVELOPED MIND AND VISUALISATION

Such practices of visualizations – they require very strong imagination and consciousness; they may not happen even in the first 10 years of the practice? But then you should do other things – like passing the granthas, formation of the chakras and other more simple forms of visualization take place before…

Guruji: N o, absolutely no need: they will derive you from the path – it will be a misdirection. Another thing I will say: you need an extraordinarily powerful and developed mind to be able to visualize yourself. So that will come finally.

That is very true. We still don’t have a perception of selves.

Guruji: That's why this yoga practice is extraordinarily important to us and to anybody who wants to reach that height.

Guruji: With discipline and proper guidance there is nothing impossible. Nearly impossible to achieve if no one is guiding properly. Like that thing – diving into the caldron.

Several years later, when a forest department allocated an adjacent plot of the land for the Siddha Siddhartha Academy tree plantation, the removal of the cactus and general land clearing started. Disturbed by a machinery and people, flocks of different types of snakes, cobras and the “horse chasers”, the serpents which move faster than a horse, entered the premises and started to take shelter in the various places, including a puja room, a storage in one of the cenotaphs.

They needed to get some items from the room, but there were simply too many deadly reptiles inside. The snake charmers were called to the rescue once again; only they were bold enough to do such a job. Two or three men showed up and as soon as one of them stepped inside, he was bitten on the foot – in spite of the loud noise they were making as a warning.

The guy was bitten by Padam Nag, a small and extremely deadly type of cobra; after a bite the victim usually got only 6 minutes to live. He tried the mantra and a toadstone on the wound – and it worked again.

For years he was wearing a ring with a black stone-like resin, a toadstone, given by this friend.

It came handy trice – the wounds were cut to draw some blood, the toadstone applied on the cut to stop the venom from spreading and the mantra was read…This healing doesn’t work without the mantra, they go together.

And so, he has used the given vidya successfully and it was a useful knowledge; the price he paid for it was not too high. Bhimnath agreed to teach him on the condition that he will be given a dakshina. When asked what kind of dakshina, he requested a portable tv and a battery – because there was no electricity in the village. The mantra definitely was worth it.

The Saperas have great, grassroots level wisdom. Many times he watched Bhimnath working: with one mantra the cobra would remain frozen right there, only it’s black eyes would be watching the snake charmer attentively.

He taught him some of the mystical, secretive things; an invocation of the power of the guru of that lineage, Kanifa Nath himself and other Masters… Because Bhimnath thought of him to be as good as a snake charmer, just without handling the snakes.

It was good to have the Sapera as friends. They were generally good people. Whenever Bhimnath visited, he would always start with a greeting sentence, “Dekho, Guruji! Guru pat kisi ka kabja nahi, aur Guru kisi ek ka nahi…” And then he will move to whatever business he had come for…

This phrase carried a great wisdom, “See, Guruji, nobody can possess the Guru and Guru doesn’t belong to only one being.”

Years later, when he was working on the comments to “Gorakhboth”, a famous dialog between immortal yogis, he realized that Bhimnath was repeating the worlds of a great Teacher Matsiendranath.

He spoke, perhaps without even knowing it, about the Spirit, which was a Guru of the Mind and did not belong to anyone and was not bound to any body…

Or maybe the Sapera always knew this truth.

HOW GURUJI IS DISAPPEARED

I’ve read about Ramalinga – he was the saint and at the last of his life he was disappeared and doesn’t come back?

Guruji: I can teach you, how to make a person disappear. You lend him some money – and you will never see him again. Very simple!( smiling). One time a disappeared in front of him-

PANKAJ STORY

This happened in Benares, Sarnath; one day, afternoon time, Guruji called us in his room; we came – and he told us to sit there. Guruji sit on the bed in padmasan and said us: close your eyes! We closed our eyes; after 30 seconds or 1 minute we heard the Guruji’s voice: open your eyes! We opened our eyes and just see – where is Guruji? Voice is coming, but Guruji is not there. He asked us: do you see me? – no. – again close your eyes! We again closed the eyes. Then Guruji again told us: open! When we opened – Guruji was sitting in the same position. And it happened 2-3 times. We were very afraid – what happens? It was the real miracle.

PROTECTION AGAINST THE DEVIL

what about the bracelet You and many of Your disciples are wearing? Is it some symbol which will support in practice? Why it is on right hand?

Guruji: it will keep your mind balanced. And a balanced mind will support in whatever things you’re trying to do. To impress the hardcore

Christian – because the snake is the symbol of the devil there; so when you put the tail of the devil in its own mouth – he wouldn’t be able to mislead you by silly talks or something else: so this is to keep the devil away( smiling)

ART AND HERITAGE

why in the shamans families the children with magical abilities born very rare? And even they are psychic and don’t live long?

Guruji: Maybe the copyright on those things is going away. After a certain time no tradition will remain in any family. 4,5, 10 generations – that's it.

why they born so different; are they cursed?

Guruji: too much association with the spirits is not healthy for children. It will have its own effect. It is always like this: 3 generations are the most.

MISTICAL STORY

There is a famous place in Benares – Assi Ghat, where Tulsidas was living; once I came there to visit my Guru. The policeman from near police station came to see my Guru – and he told us fantastic story. Two german or Frenchmen begin to fight there, early morning time; one man was sitting there. They were abusing each other in their own language – then the fight begin so violent that police came and arrested them. Also they ask to come that man because he was witness it. He said yes, they were fighting and all these things happen; then policeman asked: what they were saying? He said – I don’t understand, but I can repeat what they were saying. And he repeated all 15 minutes of what they were abused – without knowing the language! They recorded it on a tape and then some professor of the university could recognize it was german or French – I don’t remember. Then that man disappeared – we don’t know, whom he was. He was just sitting there. But this is amazing: simply by listening he could remember everything. He was not the ordinary person – that is for sure.

VILLAGE BLACK MAGIC STORY

There was the story from South India: some highly educated young people, two couples; feeling like a tourists from America – moving into the village areas, country side of Tamil Nadu.

And they came across a village – there was a guide with them: there were human skulls hanging and they were curious “what is it?”; he said – don’t go there, it is famous for black magic.

They don’t take it serious and went in. Most of people are something like that. And they even kick some offerings which were offered to the ghosts.

They came back: what happened? – nothing happened. Within 2 days all 4 of them dead.

WHO AM I, goes a very long way.

This is like a spell: one mai bahandari bihak-bihak palikayaaur Guru ki aanse ada sisi mitre. My gran is called ada sisimitre; that’s it. It’s like a magical spell.

it works because of the vibrations of the certain sounds?

Guruji: maybe( smiling)

MAGICAL STORIES

He was opening the shop – and a very dirty-looking sadhu came: with matted hair and red eyes – very dirty. He asked for money from that shop owner; and it is a usual custom in India: they don’t give money first – unless some customer has purchased something.

There were no customers, so he said – go away! He came to the barber shop: my barber knew him – I was seeing him for the first time.

And he told the barber: this bastard will give me 500 rupees – you will see! He just pissed in his pot, and drank it there. And after 5 minutes the shop owner jumped: his balls had disappeared. He was feeling for them and then said: Baba, please! He answered – idiot, give me 500 rupees! He ran back to the shop, brought the money; then the sadhu just threw it: take them back! And they were there.

I mean – unbelievable! Nowadays we don’t see such people. Very few people could do that then: very dangerous people!

There was another man: he was called Gujar Baba. You asked him for anything – and he would just do this – and that thing would come.

But you would have to pay money for that: he would throw the money into the sky – and it would disappear. That was amazing: you could ask for anything! From a mobile phone to the most expensive cigarettes – jewels, gold; but you would have to pay for it. He would throw the money into the air – and it would disappear. He is dead now, he is no more – but he lived a long life. He was not making money out of it – but the display was fantastic.

There was one big transporter also there; he came – and the transporter was an unbeliever: he said – I want four rasgullas in my mouth! Baba said: give me money! He gave the money – and four rasgullas appeared inside his mouth. It was amazing!

YOGA OR MAGIC

You told many times that the motivation is most important?

Guruji: finding a purpose! And create a motive inside you to fulfil it.

was it the situation that someone was coming to You just of curiosity but then his motive transformed to something bigger?

Guruji: not a single such case! Curiosity will disappear anyway.

is it possible that someone will make murti, but that higher being will don’t want to come in it, but ritual will be done?

Guruji: that person will suffer. Enforcing consequences. I’ve seen it.

but generally it is possible to create a murti and this force cannot escape it?

Guruji: never fully. Some connection will be there, but force will remain away.

like in the beginning of “Sandman”, when he was captured by Crowley?

Guruji: if a strong magic is there – I think everything is possible. But it is a very good thing now – such powerful warlocks are not available. Someone said: they must be hiding; but why they are hiding, if they are so powerful? What for?

interesting why it happened: because I think in ancient times and in middle ages they were really very strong?

Guruji: till 19th century – yes, they were strong. Real witches may still be there, but nobody saw them flying on a broom now. There were the times! Witches flying on the brooms, vampires coming from their coffins, werewolves howling somewhere – these are magical times. Shapeshifting cobras dancing.

You talked about exactly the 19th century: is it connected with start of Kriya yoga?

Guruji: I think Kriya yoga have its own magic. Yogi’s life has the great touch of supernatural – whenever who will practicing.

could it be like plugging out from one source and plugging in to another: from witchcraft to Kriya yoga?

Guruji: witchcraft is very different. You’re contacting so many demons, devils, this and that. And you also know about nature spirits and all these things. They were pretty knowledgeable in all those things. They may still be there. We’re simply living in a different bubble – so we don’t see them. They maybe seeing us. In Rajasthan there are still stories of churels. Every grassroots Indian knows about them. But about vampires – they don’t. it’s a Christian thing.

all that yogic siddhis which are described: they appeared only after you start perceiving all these things?

Guruji: like anima, mahima and others – yes.

when You said You’re switching it off: You just switching on the basic mode for the body?

Guruji: it is there, but I’m not focus on them. You will understand so many things with that. Only I’ve been talking that the true vision is not depending on the reflection of the light.

I remember You told to one practitioner that in the darkness you will have the very different development

Guruji: in the darkness exists something which we cannot perceive with the eyes

is it true that tantriks could make the spirit slave with the rituals?

Guruji: if they are successful enough. I’ve seen many people going absolutely mad and dying in the process. It’s not the easy thing – you just do something and say “abracadabra” and the spirit will come and ask to be your slave.

and what about Chaya upasana?

Guruji: it works but it can be dangerous.

why?

Guruji: you’re need to be very strong to be able to control your Chaya purush. That’s the problem. When you will start – it will begin appear in the sky; then it becomes much more complicated, more mysterious and more dangerous.

but if you’re not a yogi – how could you perceive your Chaya?

Guruji: you can not control that. And you already know, that in magic the shadow is considered extremely important. To control much shadow – actually transfer your consciousness into your shadow – then to move everywhere; it takes quite a lot of power and wisdom and big control.

so the shadow has it’s own consciousness?

Guruji: it may. That’s why until unless someone is absolutely sure of himself or herself – then it is done for entertainment. I will say – this is the yogic way of astral travelling. Just transfer yourself into that and move around wherever you want to move and come back.

when you transfer yourself into the shadow – what is happen with the physical body?

Guruji: not physical body, just consciousness. Physical body will remain as it is.

shadow and the astral body is the same?

Guruji: it is like creating very different astral body, in which you can transfer your consciousness; if you know exactly how, it is much more safer. Your astral body will remain inside you, but only your consciousness will connect with that shadow, Chaya purush, so in a way it is more secure than astral travelling. Because when you’re doing astral travelling – your body is like empty, so another powerful spirit or the ghost can take over it. These things are being known to happen. But then again – it is just like controlling gorilla: if he becomes angry – what you will do? For that you need to control your thoughts absolutely; one thought – and it will go different. So better first to develop over self – then try.

what happens with the physical and astral body, when you transform consciousness into Chaya purush?

Guruji: they just like taking a mobile connection. Like internet. And internet can spoil you and you can learn so much out of it.

how Chaya purush is connected with koshas?

Guruji: first you actually make it appear – methods are given there; then you chant a certain mantra, which is also written there. But until unless Guru give you this mantra – mantra never give you results. That mantra is not for Brahma, it is for the mind. When mind also is activated in the certain way – then it can connect with that Chaya purush and the consciousness will remain the same. It is just sending a drone somewhere and looking the things on the screen – that is the nearest example I can give you.

so Chaya purush is not a mental body?

Guruji: no, it’s just a shadow.

why you’re saying that shadow can be dangerous? Because it can attack you?

Guruji: it will be like going mad – if you’re not absolutely in control of your thoughts and realizations – you will be creating the big problems for you.

but what can be the problem with the shadow?

Guruji: suppose your hand goes out of control.

now I understand. You tell us, that when yogi becomes more advanced – his shadow becomes more transparent. How it is connected with Chaya purush?

Guruji: because he’s getting refined and balance of his elements is getting equal. Light is reflecting only from earth, water and fire, it is passing through air and akash. So if the air and akash are becoming balanced – your body will become semi-transparent and the light will go through it. But advanced yogi not need Chaya purush. You’re already gone beyond that.

swara yoga is a branch of yoga?

Guruji: yes, it’s a branch of yoga – just information, which yogi can use before he’s reach the climax of yoga in between, because everybody needs to survive. So it is part of survival training.

so Chaya upasana is also branch of yoga?

Guruji: just the information that you can use your shadow for the certain task. You’re living in the jungle, there is nobody to help you, so at least your Chaya may make chai for you. Only for that. But I think Alladdin’s lamp is more interesting to have.

but you don’t know – the genie could be crazy

Guruji: let’s say – he will be the friendly gentleman and he will fulfill all your wishes.

Also after Hanuman began to talk to me, he did so through the mediums at first. Such people are called Shakti-Dharis/ The name means “possessed by a spirit”. Spirits are usually called Shakti at the Indian grassroots level. So when before death a person is giving the spirit which possesses them or they collaborated with to another man, and a new “carrier” becomes possessed after that – this is also a way of Shaktipat. But I see no great wisdom coming from that. Only some spirit who is working through their body. The medium becomes a vehicle, a vessel.

A popular notion is that when a higher being touches you between the eyebrows, it opens your third eye.

G: It may not directly open your third eye. This is another thing that only Westerners discuss. In India, only Shiva and Shakti have a third eye, no one else. And when Shiva opens it (and He’s only opened it once or twice), the world of sense was incinerated. He opens a third eye only for the destruction. So this notion of touching the third eye and awakening someone’s mind, I don’t like it. But if we take it too scientifically, the touch of a high being – a god, or an immortal – passes some DNA to the recipient. That is for sure. And such DNA, by mixing with your DNA, will create new effects: different kinds of inspiration, or new wisdom. Something will definitely develop.

Do you think that is what the touch of Shiva-ji’s sweat did to you?

G: My life is absolutely different, if I look back, before that event and after it - it is too overwhelming. I never had such fantastic ideas before this incident; now some of the new revelations and ideas are fantastic… they just come! I don’t even have to think when the information flows – I am saying those things as if they were outlined, dictated, passed directly to me. And. I think that it happens because of His grace.

So it’s not a Shaktipat, it’s a Shivapat….

G: It is, yes. The touch of Shiva. As much as I had been researching all the legends and myths, I never came across any description that Shiva was sweating. That is another peculiarity that His sweat touched me – perhaps, with that touch Mahadev’s DNA passed on. Truly fantastic ideas started to come to me after that. For some time I became very quiet, then the new ideas became so overwhelming: somebody would ask something and I would experience a mental blast. And it would bring a storm of ideas and cognition. Perhaps, it also triggered this physical transformation.

YOGIC AND NOT YOGUC SIDDHIS

I have observed yesterday that if I come near any woman -that vibration became different – or maybe it just seemed like that?

Guruji: maybe, it is possible.

with what phenomena it could be connected?

Guruji: Shakti!

what is Your opinion about siddhi: are they the certification of the 100% developed mind?

Guruji: no, they come much earlier. Yogic siddhis are very difficult to achieve because they are abilities, which will develop. Some people called siddhi like somehow making contact with some kind of spirit and using them for worldly purpose: they are also called “siddhis”. But they will take you directly in a bad situation. But if abilities are developing – it is like certificate that your yoga practice is going into the right direction.

and what will be the price?

Guruji: you give them 1000 or 2000 rupees – they also need to survive. He saw one man, who made 1000000 rupees appeared out of the blue – and then they disappeared. He just tied dirty cloths, threw it and currency just begin come out of it. Thousand rupee notes up to 10 million – and then he made them disappear. It is magic! And he is not a yogi – that is another point. With help of certain spirit’s power these things are possible.

but such knowledge must be learned from someone – Guru or someone else?

Guruji: actually they find the disciple. You can not simply go to them and say – I want to be your disciple. Only the spirit will tell, which one to teach.

the time of Ramayana or Mahabharata was the time of magic and superpowers: can this time come again?

Guruji: I hope, yes.

is it possible that it will be women ruling next era?

Guruji: they were ruling from the day one – but men never realized it. Now they’re realizing it. Women have more sensitivity and possibilities for magic. Every woman can create her own magic.

HOW TO SAVE FROM STORM

Q:

Guruji, all that samyamas that are described in Yoga Darshan – they are done during the practice or after practice?

Guruji: no, dharana Dhyana and samadhi – these three are same: only after achieving samadhi this possibility will come.

Understanding the Mind of the Creator

Question: There is a belief that if you desire to obtain siddhis (supreme, mystical abilities), you can never attain self- realization.

Answer (Shailendra Sharma): In my opinion, that’s not true. If you are practicing yoga, results of these practices will include these capacities, the siddhis. They've been described in detail in Yoga Darshan and other texts. Over time these instructions have been adulterated by various devotional cults. They say, “Thou shalt not acquire any grandeur lest thou shall lose thy path.”

How can anybody get lost? There’s no other way to go! This is a journey from birth to death, and this is the path of life! Who can deviate from this path, tell me.

There’s no chance of losing the way. Sometimes we pause for analysis, sometimes we relax, but there’s no possibility of getting lost.

A common assumption is that it is the greatness of the guru that leads his disciple away from any glory so that the disciple doesn’t get lost! But the truth is, most of the gurus do not have any skills or tools for helping their students win any glory. There are many such people, fooling others. There's so much hypocrisy in this world.

Should we even care? We should analyze even the hypocrites. That’s why I’ve written dedications in all my books: “To the seekers of truth.” And truth is not just one-dimensional. It is multifaceted, diverse, and multidimensional. Whatever we are exploring, we should try to understand it in its totality.

As I said before, after understanding the creation we’ll have to be able to understand the mind of the Creator. And remember, the Creator is Alakh Niranjan – beyond carbon! Since He is beyond carbon, He is beyond this creation and is invisible.

What we are experiencing is His nature in our day-to- day life. First we’ll understand His nature, and then we’ll understand Him.

We should refuse to accept the statement: “This world is all maya” (illusion). My observation is that maya IS His nature. The more we understand Creator's nature, the more natural we become and understand Him better.

Think of it this way – when you travel, you find dozens of fellow travelers. You can see them, touch them, but you don’t know their nature. You don’t know the person; you just see the person. But that’s not enough. When you start talking to them, exchange thoughts, get to know their traveling plans, and the stories they tell you, only then the real friendship will develop. Got the point?

“Many of these so-called gurus master akarshan or sammohan mantras (attraction/love spells) or some other ritual; anybody who comes in front of them gets attracted. This is especially true for those doing public discourses on scriptures. For example, this one person is always seen with a black shawl (wrap), be it winter or summer. You take the black shawl off and his attraction will go away. Some wear special tilak (mark on forehead). There are some who would always wear a kajal (kohl) in their eyes which are specially prepared with attraction charm, so whoever looks at them cannot take their eyes off.

“Couple of old books have a lot of techniques to master such rituals and I have also talked to few folks who do all that. There’s a technique to master padraiyya yantra – write a specific mantra, wipe it off, write it again, and so on, and after that put that as a tilak which will then ensure a steady flow of money and people. Vaidya-ji first brought this to my attention as he had dealt with many such people. He was even suggesting me a couple of such rituals. I told him we have enough trouble already; last thing I want is more people visiting for worldly gains.”

Vaidya-ji was a very interesting personality. He was a native of Govardhan and Vraj, and used to visit Guruji every afternoon. He had a deep knowledge of Ayurveda as well as Indian alchemy. Some day I should write in more detail about him. I was surprised that Vaidya-ji also knew about these kinds of rituals. Guruji said Vaidya-ji knew quite a bit. He’s been seeing sadhus since he was 5 years old. He was an Encyclopedia of Vraj.

When I disappeared, it’s akartum – it is an extraordinary thing, when you can do things which no one else can do. Kartum is if there is something remains beyond these two, he is capable of doing that also. For example, bringing dead to life. It’s a simple thing. You can also do it, I will teach you that. It is nothing. I think it is kartum among yogis. Akartum is for ordinary people. Changing the weather is kartum for yogis. But for ordinary people it is akartum.

when they become furious and an epidemic starts somewhere — does that mean they were not worshipped enough, or were worshipped in the wrong way?

Guruji: very difficult to say. Sometimes a sadhu may curse and invoke an epidemic — there can be many reasons. Here is a story from South India: two highly educated couples decided to try themselves in the role of American tourists and went around the villages of Tamil Nadu. In one village — and they had a guide with them — they saw human skulls hanging on a fence and became very curious. He advised them not to go in, because black magic was at work there. Naturally they did not listen and went in — as most people would do now. And they even kicked a couple of offerings made to the ghosts. They came out proud of themselves and asked: so what? Nothing happened! All four of them died within two days.

From the lives of black magicians: if you are invoking dangerous spirits, you should be in tune with your own spirit — if only for the sake of safety.