Ashwatthaman, Kalki, Ravannath and the named immortals' stories

Guruji: he lived 3,5 thousands years before. Immortality is such an attractive dream. But we all know, that spirit is immortal – so what’s the problem?

It is nearly impossible to find a good doctor. Maybe they are great philosophers: they already know that life is fickle, it is not permanent, it’s temporary thing – so when they realize this, they try to extract so much many as possible.

In Ayurveda it is recorded that raja Bali used sulfur and became immortal by its use. That’s why the one of the names of sulfur is balivasa – fat of Bali.

who had the longer life – Bali or Ravana?

Guruji: Bali was born before Ravana. Bali is much more older. He has longer life and he is chiranjivi – he will live eternal life.

he is immortal or very long living?

Guruji: he is called chiranjivi – ever-living. It is recorded that Ravana was defeated by children of Bali. Also Kartavirya Arjuna defeated Ravana, Valin – the elder brother of Sugriva – defeated him, and when Ravana went to attack Sutala, where Bali lived – he was defeated by Bali’s small children. Only three times he was defeated. And all that three times his grandfather Pulastya came and rescued him.

you remember the story when Ravana came to Bali when Bali was the prisoner of Vishnu?

Guruji: when king Bali donated all three worlds – Vishnu went there as the very short Brahmin. That’s why in our parampara it is said – never take land in donation. You will ever be able to digest that. Vishnu lost most of his things and had to stay guard for at least 4 month every year.

so Ravana was not defeated by Vishnu ?

Guruji: never.

Bali was asura?

Guruji: no, he was daitya, son of Kashyapa rishi. Mother’s name was Diti. The sons of Diti was called daityas – giants. Daityas and danavas were very pure people and raja Bali is known for his truthfulness and his tapas.

and Ravana was rakshasa?

Guruji: the mother was rakshasa, but the father was rishi, Vaishravana. He was Brahmin and son of the rishi. But he became king of all rakshasas by his maternal grandfather power.

daityas are on the higher level?

Guruji: they are bigger and they are very powerful. They say that Sutala loka is only one billion time more beautiful than heaven.

MYSTIC SHOT

Towards my disciples from Gwalior, she fainted unconscious and was crying about me, my name. I reach there and I pull the face from their skull and pull it away. From those ghost. Just like that and they are gone.

who was Janaka? Why he is so famous?

Guruji: he was very accomplished man- we just discussed him. I believe that he is also immortal or very long-lived person. He is famous as very accomplished yogi and he was father-in law of Lord Rama. It was nearly 2 million years before. In Mahabharata time Vyasa sent his son to him for some teaching – he continue to live that long. There is absolutely no record of how he died or what happened with him. We look it up very deeply but there is no record. And another point: no records of foster parents of Krishna, Nanda and Yashoda. No records, what happened with them. They might be still living here.

Janaka could belong to Nath tradition, like Bharthari?

Guruji: it is very much possible because yoga is supposed to be the only way which can made the mortal man immortal.

Bharthari got different name after initiation?

Guruji: one of his names is Vairagya Nath. Only two names – Bharthari Nath and Bairag Nath is connected with him. But he attain immortality before he became a yogi, with the fruit of immortality. Now – thanks to Atmanath – we are aware of his lineage.

ASHWATTHAMAN AND SHRI KRISHNAS’S CURSE

What is the meaning of Krishna cursing – so-called cursing Ashwatthaman to become immortal? Does this indicate a different yogic process of gaining samadhi?

Guruji: Ashwatthaman was the incarnation of Shiva; his father did very great tapas to please Shiva and when Shiva appeared – he said: ask for a boon! And Dronacharya answered: please, become my son! Shiva agreed and Ashwatthaman was born; he was immortal. Shri Krishna’s curse – if you read Mahabharata – lasted only for 3000 years; Shri Dwaypayana Vyasa stopped this curse in 1 month.

You can find this story in Skanda purana. He is immortal and he is not cursed any more.

He’s going to become the next Vyasa, one of the new team members among the 7 rishis. Along with Kripacharya, his maternal uncle. The story of the curse had been fabricated by so-called devotees; otherwise, if you read the puranas, a different fact emerges. His curse was removed in Rameshwaram; when you reach the temple of Rameshwaram, where Rama installed the Shivalingam (the temple itself was built much later) there, is the stone plate where it is written that the curse of Ashwatthaman was removed here, on this spot, within 1 month.

Have you gone to this temple and seen that stone?

Guruji: Yes, I have seen it. I discovered that it had happened there – and then I found this story in the Skanda purana as well.

In Vishnu purana I found a list of the new 7 rishis – Ashwatthaman is one of them; and next Vyasa is Ashwattaman himself.

All these incarnations of Shiva are immortal and very powerful. So you need to dig deeper in this story.

From time to time Ashwatthaman actually walks among the mortals; the story you told us happened only a hundred years ago – I forgot the name of the village…?

Guruji: That was a fantastic story, yes. Now it must be a hundred years back, because I heard it in 1990 or 1991. Dwaraka Prasad Shastri went to this village.

What would attract him to walk the Earth again?

Guruji: He might be observing humanity or may be guiding it, behind the scenes, dropping different ideas – and we just follow these ideas. It could be that. Sometimes he lets people know that he’s still here – just to prove he’s still roaming the Earth. That was a fantastic story.

There was a time when Dronacharya was gone and the question arose – who will be the next chief?

Ashwatthaman was sitting somewhere in the Himalayas and Duryodhana went to ask him, as he was the son of the Guru: “Whom can we make a new chief, a leader?”

And there they described his body: as if it was made of gold, absolute black curly hair; his eyes, his voice and his shoulders were resembling the bull Nandi, which Shiva rides; he was a great knower of all 4 Vedas and 5th Veda – Dhanurveda, the Veda of bow and archery – he was a master in it, and he could do anything.

That’s how he’s described there.

Is he also mentioned in the book of that tribe, who keeps the archives of your clan line?

Guruji: Yes, Jaga; our Bhardwaj clan starts from him. Books start from the time when there was nothing; quite a Biblical beginning.

ASHWATTHAMAN AND AGNEYASTRA

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could You tell us that amazing story about Agneya astra?

Guruji: we found the village; there is a very big pond – now it’s a pond, full of water. And some very old people remember this – now only 2 or 3 remain. The new generation is too busy to know these things.

I was living on my farm in Gwalior, and two of my disciples – Dwaraka Prasad Shastri and Upendra Vyas – heard from someone that a very old man was living in that particular village. It was far away from Gwalior, and he knew the Agneya astra: the celestial weapon of fire, which is described in Mahabharat. And he was willing to teach some good brahmin. They were thinking they were good brahmins – so they went there. I said: you have my permission – go!

They came back after one week, because they had to walk a long distance to reach that village – it was a very remote place. They came back with a fantastic story.

The old man was more than 100 years old then. He was the priest of the village temple. And at those times, most of the villagers would bring some flour and some other things, because some sadhus – the wandering sadhus – took food only from brahmins; it was part of their discipline.

And there was a big landowner: he was a very-very bad person – he was in his late fifties. A very notorious womanizer, known as a heavy sinner.

The priest was a widower, and he had a daughter – 14–15 years old, very beautiful. That landowner heard about her beauty – he may have seen her somehow. He sent one man to him; because the priest also knew some astrology, he asked for a good muhurta, the time for the marriage to take place. So innocently he did it.

Then he told him: make your daughter ready as a bride, my boss is coming to marry her.

That was a big blow to the father; I mean, no father would like such a person. His daughter was only 14, and the man was in his fifties, such a debauched person. He was worried because the landowner was a very powerful man – no one had come to help him.

Then, on the sixth or seventh night, somebody knocked. He opened the door: a tall, very strong-looking, shapely man was standing there, with long hair. He said: I’m a sadhu, can you give me food? I eat only barley.

That was a normal crop there; he said – please! They cooked, and he was just sitting, looking at them. They served him food; he ate it.

Then he asked: you are looking very worried; if you tell me, I may be able to help. You have to tell me.

The man started to weep because he was powerless to do anything; and the whole story came out.

And the man told him: if you have faith in me, if you can give me food for seven days – because the muhurta was after seven days – I will protect your daughter. Your problem will disappear.

Looking at his confidence, the priest was convinced. He gave him a place in the temple, which was a little away from his home.

And as the priest told, he never saw him lying down: he was always sitting, covered with a sort of shawl from top to toe – but always sitting, never lying down.

So the day arrived – the promised day; and some men from the landowner came.

And that man told them: you tell those men that he is the cousin of my daughter, her elder brother – so he will do all the things.

They started; the camp of the landowner was there – the big landowner had a camp with 50–60 people with rifles and horses.

Then that man told him: I’m your ancestor (he was also belonging to Bharadwaj gotra) – and I’ve heard your heart cry. I was passing by, so I came.

Don’t tell anybody; when I say “run” – run, don’t look back. And I will go away from here: you will never see me again.

He became even more afraid hearing that.

So they went to the place, and he told the men sitting there: he is the elder brother of my daughter, her cousin; he will do all the things.

He saw the man just catch a pinch of grass from the ground and tell him – run!

Then he ran.

And there was a big blast behind him – as if some very big bomb had gone off. He kept running, without looking back.

When the villagers heard the big blast – they also came running. And they saw the priest running away, so they said: what happened?

He said – I don’t know, Ashwatthaman came there – but nobody believed him.

When they went there, there was a very big pit, and its sides had turned into glass – as if it had been an atomic blast. Not a single thing remained – everything was incinerated: even the rifles and everything else – no trace.

The villagers refused to believe that Ashwatthaman had come; they thought: oh, he knows Agneya astra and did that.

So his reputation became great, and everybody began to be afraid of him for the rest of his life.

Then that girl was married in some village near Kanpur.

So they came back with this story.

Recently, two years back, one of my disciples kept doing research. I told him, and he found the village. Now that pit which had formed is a big pond, full of water.

And only one very old man – more than 90 years old – remembered that. Otherwise, nobody remained.ASHWATTHAMAN AND AGNEYASTRA

where we can find the true information about Ashwatthaman?

Guruji: only by reading Mahabharata very carefully. Even physical description you will find there. fourth volume. Before Shalya Parva Duryodhana is going to consult Ashwatthaman – he sitting in Himalayas; and there it is described how Dronacharya got him as a son; and physically he is described. His body is like made of gold, he has black curly hairs; his voice, his shoulders, his eyes are like the bull of Shiva, very powerful; he is the great knower of vedas, including the bow and arrow veda – Dhanurveda – this is given there.

and after Mahabharata what he was doing – is it mentioned somewhere?

Guruji: you will find some references in Skanda purana. Krishna cursed him that you have roamed for 3000 years with the wound on your forehead away from civilizations. Then he went to Vyasa and Vyasa cured him in one month only. The wound disappeared, he became one of the brahmarishi, then he married 17 times – the whole Bharadwaj gotra begin with that, 17 different lines. He will be the next Vyasa and one of the saptarishis; they are all waiting for Kalki to appear. Parashurama is going to be a Guru of Kalki and Ashwatthaman and his uncle Kripacharya will assist him in his work.

STORY OF ASHWATTHAMAN

is it true that Ashwatthaman was cursed by Krishna?

Guruji: I will give you a full story on that: in Mahabharata it is given and in Skanda purana you can also find. What do you want to know?

how such a great person could do such bad things and then been cursed?

Guruji: there is a big catch: Krishna cursed him for 3000 years – for 3000 years your wound will not heal and you will bondage in jungle away from society. But I the Skanda purana you will find another version: immediately after all events he went to rishi Vyasa and asked him to help. Vyasa said that it is no remedy written in all the Vedas how to remove this curse – but I will tell you how to remove it. You go to Adam’s bridge – the bridge was created by Lord Rama –which is connected with Ceylon; and I a certain month – Karttika, which is in October-November – take a holy dip every day and worship Shiva, established by Rama, and your curse will be removed. Ashwatthaman did that and in the last day something came over him such a great emotion and he begin to dance tandava, like Shiva- because in Shiva purana it is written he is incarnation of Shiva. And Shiva appeared. He asked: what do you want? The answer was: just give me grace – eternal grace from You. Shiva removed the curse, he was made one of the rishis. After that we find another story in our family lineage that he married 17 times and the 17 lineages started from him. he is going to be the next Vyasa, which is written in Мшыртг purana and he is also one of the 7 rishis who was taking over on the previous 7 ones. In Mahabharata it is said that he is as powerful as 8 rishis taken together. And he is immortal. The curse of Krishna was removed within a month. Nowadays if you see the story – someone saw a man with the wound on his head – don’t believe it.

Krishna doesn’t know who was he?

Guruji: I’m sure he knew. That was just a play. He was the only one who was born with the natural jewel and he was born immortal – maybe it’s effect of the jewel. And Shiva purana tells that he is Rudra avatar.

immortality was not the curse?

Guruji: no, he was born like that. Read the 4 th volume of Mahabharata – there the story is given. Duryodhana was coming to him for advice – battle was already on – and he found Ashwatthaman sitting somewhere in Himalayas. That means he can be somewhere else and going to war somewhere else. And in the place where he was born, his father, Dronacharya, did a great tapas to invoke Shiva. When Shiva appeared and asked – what do you want? – he said: please, become my son. Shiva said ok, done. Then Ashwatthaman was born with a jewel on his head. Physically he is described as golden-looking and his shoulders is like a bull – very big; his hairs are black and curly, his sound is very deep, resonant, he has the great wisdom of four vedas and the fifth veda of bow also – that’s how he is described. Only in one place he is described.

why he did this night murder?

Guruji: not exactly: if you read the whole thing – he was sleeping under the tree then big owl came, kill all the sleeping crows there; he got the idea to attack. He came there, woke up the chief warriors, begin to beat them and begin to shout – the whole army woke up. Then it was the big battle because the power of Shiva was in him – not like cutting throat of the sleeping. He woke them up and they all were fighting. One shloka describes, how they were destroyed: in Mahabharata it is said that when Ashwatthaman step inside with the sword – that was absolutely silence. And when he stepped out – again it was absolute silence. Only blood was dripping from the sword. You must read that portion.

no description of story of the jewel?

Guruji: it was taken by Draupadi – then they begin to die in Siberia one by one. Who took the jewel then – that is the mystery. No reference anywhere.

where we can find the true information about Ashwatthaman?

Guruji: only by reading Mahabharata very carefully. Even physical description you will find there. fourth volume. Before Shalya Parva Duryodhana is going to consult Ashwatthaman – he sitting in Himalayas; and there it is described how Dronacharya got him as a son; and physically he is described. His body is like made of gold, he has black curly hairs; his voice, his shoulders, his eyes are like the bull of Shiva, very powerful; he is the great knower of vedas, including the bow and arrow veda – Dhanurveda – this is given there.

and after Mahabharata what he was doing – is it mentioned somewhere?

Guruji: you will find some references in Skanda purana. Krishna cursed him that you have roamed for 3000 years with the wound on your forehead away from civilizations. Then he went to Vyasa and Vyasa cured him in one month only. The wound disappeared, he became one of the brahmarishi, then he married 17 times – the whole Bharadwaj gotra begin with that, 17 different lines. He will be the next Vyasa and one of the saptarishis; they are all waiting for Kalki to appear. Parashurama is going to be a Guru of Kalki and Ashwatthaman and his uncle Kripacharya will assist him in his work.

what is the story when after the battle Arjuna saw Ashwatthaman with Vyasa?

Guruji: Vyasa is the great supporter of Ashwatthaman. I think Vyasa was the most powerful being in the era of Mahabharata. He could remove the curse of Krishna for 3000 years in just one month. There was nobody equal like Vyasa. He was also able to invoke 1,6 billion of dead warriors’ spirits – he call them just like that(easily). In the whole history of puranas nobody has that power. He is son of Parashara: in that point of view he’s a sort of uncle to Ashwatthaman.

CELESTIAL WEAPON

what happened with all that knowledge of weapons from Mahabharata times?

Guruji: such knowledge of weapons only could bring disturb.

that I understand; but after Mahabharata there was no references that someone used it?

Guruji: only 190 years before there was one reference – it is already on record, Agneyastra. Only one we know.

and Egyptians; they were not using weapons like this?

Guruji: we have never heard about it.

it looks like Ashwatthaman deliberately hid all the knowledge or pack it in some safe place?

Guruji: he is still roaming around.

but he didn’t teach anyone this art and knowledge?

Guruji: why? There was no qualified person.

and what about the knowledge of making the alchemical gold?

Guruji: only in India.

yes, the huge amount of knowledge about all the rasayanas; and all this knowledge was like frozen in time? But nowadays in different ways it maybe coming to the surface?

Guruji: the awareness is more and more.

what do You think: maybe all that knowledge – including the knowledge about celestial weapons – also may become available?

Guruji: I’m sure about it. It was not for every common person, only few people were able to master them.

what do You think, when Kalki will come – he will use these types of weapons?

Guruji: I think so, yes. Only immortals are knowledgeable in that. All his future company – they are extraordinary warriors. Puranas are saying – they are waiting for Kalki and be teaching him.

is it mentioned somewhere, where they will be waiting for him? Some kind of residence?

Guruji: nobody knows. Some people are saying Parashuram Ji maybe in Kerala, somebody saying – Orissa; but nobody knows exactly.

what list of nine immortal nathas is correct?

Guruji: different lists belongs to different time frame. There is also mentioned that when the new expression of the creation will be start – the different list will come. Now Ravana will come as Revarnath.

but he will come in physical body?

Guruji: yes, you know that the spirit is immortal? He must take birth and start the mission.

and he will become immortal?

Guruji: that is not known, but he will be the first nath. Then the other nathas will be born. It will be the new expression of creation.

will he take birth or take already grown body?

Guruji: he will come the regular way. He die and his spirit was so high. Just imagine only one thing: I will give you one example. If a soldier will die in battle with a weapon in hands – it is written in every shastras that he will ascend to heaven. Now take the life of Ravana. He has already conquered all heavenly gods, they were serving him. Time was standing still, he was 311 billions years old, and he died by the battle with Rama. So where he would ascended? He got such a place, that is impossible to imagine – so much he was high. If such a great person will come down – he will start the new great knowledge and wisdom time on this planet. He was already nearly immortal and he was live the most lavish way of life, he was direct disciple of Shiva Ji, all the gods were serving him. His city was made from gold. If such a person will come down as a nath yogi and will give you knowledge – just imagine the standard of this knowledge.

is it possible that he will be Kalki avatar?

Guruji: no. they will remain separate. Revarnath will come only to give wisdom.

in what text this information is write that Ravana will be the next of the first nathas?

Guruji: one book on Jainism. Jovisa Purana or something else.

and his name will be the same?

Guruji: Revarnath, not Ravanath. The name will be slightly changed. He will be the first in the next expression of the creation, then 8 more nathas will come.

and what will happen with the other nathas – the previous nine ones?

Guruji: they will go and live with Shiva. Enjoy the reality.

but nowadays nath’s organization are differ from the old ones…

Guruji: every time created organization is not the genuine thing. It was no organization before, only discipline between Guru and disciple.

but nowadays there are a lot of nathas

Guruji: no more than 3-4 thousands. Normal sadhus are not so many.

so you think nowadays nath tradition exists only among sadhus?

Guruji: nobody knows that. How many immortals are secretly living among us. Such beings are not teach us, they just set the parameter of something.

…Kalki avatar will coming in this century. And now we talk about Revarnath in Jainism also – so let us see who will come. In books it is written it will be in Shambal area. And the river Chambala I think is the exact place. And the exact time in century is not known – for immortals the century is not a big time.

KALKI AVATAR; NON VIOLENCE; FRIENDSHIP

…it is something beyond diamond body. It’s specially self-created body with the help of the Guru, who knows about these things.

what was the purpose?

Guruji: they can live for billions of years. To get such knowledge and wisdom which is otherwise impossible.

it will needed procedure of Kalki avatar?

Guruji: what we read in our books – he will be immortal after he kill all the bad person. He will be known in 21 st century. When they are talking about immortal being – even mentioning the century is enough. Parashurama will be his Guru, and Ashwatthama and Kripacharya will support him. He will finish all the bad people whoever they are and it is written that he will donate all the land to brahmins – then he will go to do tapas and be immortal. If such a dangerous person will remain immortal – the Earth will remain disciplined. Forever and ever.

how we should understand brahmins in that context?

Guruji: the righteous people.

for what aim the immortal being could do tapas?

Guruji: he will think things we can even not imagine. He will think things that only immortal person can do.

but he will kill such great number of people?

Guruji: destroy. That is as good as kill. Warriors and heroes are experts in killing.

he is Shiva avatar?

Guruji: when Hanuman was telling me this he use the word Parabrahma Parameshwar avatar. And he will not work with public opinion. Rather absolutely against it.

it exists some opposing force?

Guruji: nothing is written about someone opposing him.

so the battle will be quick

Guruji: one sided – just destruction, that’s it.

So much questions about immortality are asked to me. There are countless yoga teachers around the world – nobody discussing immortality.

(…in the fourth generation of Brahma the creator. Brahma – his son Pulastya – his son Vaishravan – his son Ravana, the great- great son.)

Mystical story about Ashwatthama.

When I was living on my farm, in 1991. Two of my disciples came – that we have heard about one old man- there was a village about 70 miles from my place: he knows Agneyastra and he is willing to teach some people. So I gave them permission to go. They came back after 4-5 days: they found that old man, but the story was absolutely different. Old man was nearly 100 that time and he told them: when I was young I had a daughter about 14-15, very beautiful. Her mother died, I’m a widower. That time was the total ruling of small kings – before freedom of India. So the local landowner or landlord – whatever you call him – was very bad person, womanizer and rapist.

Somehow he came to know about the beauty of that child – 14-15 years is childish age. He sent some man: our master want to get marry so give us auspicious time for marriage. And that old man was village priest. He calculated the auspicious time for marriage, give him, and they told him: now be ready – our master will come to marry your daughter this date, so be prepared. And that was very serious thing: he was 60 plus and very bad man – she was just 14-15. It was about 10-15 days away. He was worrying – it was too much for any father. Physically he could do nothing.

All about 6 th or 7 th night – there was a knock at the door in the night. He opened: very impressive man was stand there – with long hair, long bear and moustaches, very fair in color and very impressive looking. In India villages – there is always a temple in village, and the main priest of the temple if some sadhu or some wandering monk is come – everybody direct them to that priest to give him food. There are many sadhus, who takes food only from brahmins, so the village priest takes care of them always having enough flour and other food, which villagers gave. He asked for food; the priest said please, come – and they prepare food for him. When he was eating he noticed the worrying look of the girl and father’s face and say – please, if it is all right, tell me what is the problem, what is bothering you? And the father begin to cry like a child and tell him all that happened. The man listened to him peacefully and said – ok; that was after the 7-8 days the marriage will done forcible. He said: if you will give me food for 7-8 days, consider me as the elder brother of your daughter and when they come – say that brother is come, he will do all things. When you’re drowning even a small straw looks like it will help you.

The priest say – he never see that man lying down, he was always sitting in the corner of the temple, he takes food only once in 24 hours – that’s it. On the day of the marriage some people came from landowner – he made a camp out there with his small army. Father said – this is the elder brother of the girl and he will do everything.

So they were going to see the bridegroom. And the man said: I’m Ashwatthaman. I’m your ancestor. Because you belong to my clan – somehow I’m able to hear your cry. When I say : Run! – you run, don’t look back. I will leave from this place and these bastards will die today. Priest was full of fear.

When they reach the camp he said: I’m here and we’re not going marry our child to you; and he said to the priest – run. While running the priest just saw that he took some dust from the ground, touch his forehead then throw – and it was big blast like big bomb is going off.

Ashwatthaman never came back. Priest came running back and hearing such big blast all village come to see what happen. All the army of that landlord – all horses, all guns, all swords were incinerated – only ashes were there. And there was a big crater like atomic blast and the soil was like glass – it was changed so much. The villagers thought that the priest is a siddha and he has done it using agneyastra. He kept telling – it was not me, it was someone else – but the more he denied more they believe it was him.

That girl was married into Kanpur to very good family – that case made the priest reputation. Bad man disappeared with all his army – just some ashes remained. He believe, that Ashwatthaman still moves, he has knowledge of all the weapons. And we’re lucky enough to hear it first stand account. We heard it in 1991. My disciples come to learn the agneayastra and came back with that story.

It was before, approximately 1920 th decade. That priest is also dead now – he was nearly 100 at that time. That means because he fed Ashwatthaman for 7-8 days – maybe the closeness of him cause such long life. We never know exactly, but he crossed 100 years. Ten years ago I knew he died recently.

ABOUT YOGA AND NOT ONLY.

You said, that list of nine nathas is changing in every era?

Guruji: yes; so maybe – hypothetically speaking – if the fifth yuga is beginning, the new list of nine nathas will come.

in ancient times nathas and siddhas were synonyms?

Guruji: no, siddha means – who may not be a yogi but may have contact with some ethereal Shakti and he’s working through that. Naths were yogis, who achieve anything through yoga and make their body much more stronger, live the very long life – they could do the great miracles. They were displayed ashta siddhis. Simple siddha may be like catching a ghost or something – but even that is not such easy thing to achieve.

In some texts it is described that while work with mercury first the body’s dhatus will be reduced – and it explains the reduction of body weight. Then it will become full and very beautiful.

to what limit they can be reduced?

Guruji: almost everything will disappear – only skin covering the skeleton will remain, with the vital organs and cerebral fluid. That’s why we say it’s very dangerous without any competent guidance and assistance – almost nearly impossible to achieve.

sometimes there are references about nine nathas like nine directions?

Guruji: they are real personalities. And the directions are ten, not nine. Ravannath will come and give the very special knowledge for the people.

will it be spiritual or practical knowledge?

Guruji: I thing the being of his state will give great self-discovering knowledge and spiritual knowledge. They are not interested in material things like everybody; they are already gone too far beyond that.

First Ashwathama just for one month did penance especially to Shiva to remove the curse given to him by Krishna. He removed that curse, Shiva appeared. And after he received blessing from Shiva he became a Brahmarishi and was accepted in Rishis. Then he married. He must have been old at that time, but he was immortal, so no problem. Maybe his wives were not immortal. So, he married them one by one, after some time – it is more possible.

Q: how it is possible to have a birth and to be immortal at the same time?

Guruji: I will give you examples: Ashwatthama – has regular birth, Dattatreya – has regular birth, Parashurama – has regular birth, Hanuman – was born the regular way, Kripacharya – was born, Vibhishana – he was born. All of them are immortals. How you do it – that’s the main thing.

Kripacharya became one of the seven rishis.

Q: and immortal beings has immortal mothers?

Guruji: we don’t know exactly.