Samadhis and the practice years, told as events

I can dance sitting. Just a control. You can call it self-control. Everybody is trying to look after his body. But very few people actually can feel their body. I can feel almost every muscle. I think everything has a reason. What I went through – there must be an important reason for it. It seems like a new body. My skin is different, my muscles feel different. But I am very happy that after taking that poison I have some improvement – you can see it in my skin. I just would like to hear that it doesn’t look like fifty-two years old, but much younger. Hearing this comment makes my day. Every time when I am doing puja I look the best way. And what do you think – does that dress suit me? The one I wear for doing puja? I look well enough in that.

But first we have to know exactly what are our duties.

It was a very strong decision, but I decided that I will do nothing professionally. If one decides not to do anything, he will survive. Maybe in the beginning he will go through some very bad periods. He will have to face so many different types of challenges. I had gone through this and the biggest challenge is that you are never sure where your next meal is coming from.

But if you have enough faith in yourself, whatever you are doing, you will survive.

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FIRST FLIGHT TO SAMADHI (PART 1)

could You tell about first experience of Samadhi?

Guruji: terrifying experience – I’ve told about it in the “right hand of God”. Frightening experience – not very romantic, as people can expect. You’re out of the body, your consciousness is everywhere; and your mind is in tune with thousands of people surrounding you. It was night time – someone having sex, someone in the toilet – and the smell of humanity was not tolerable. The first experience was frightening – and maybe it lasted for one and a half hour. It took me many-many months to recover from that. Then my fortune was shining on me: Babaji blessed me. Then it became tolerable – at will when it be. First experience was accidental.

and the second one?

Guruji: second one was good; I was already out of the city, living on my farm – it was more or less pleasant. When the consciousness begins to go by beyond the physical limits – in the middle of the city your mind will definitely link up with so many minds around you and you will see whatever they are doing; and I tell you: the smell of humanity is not tolerable. When I was out of the city – only farm land are there – it was very different experience.

on what depends that tuning with other minds?

Guruji: their true nature is open that time. Two percent are always: one you’re trying to show into society – mostly it is a fake behavior and one is inside. When you’re in Samadhi – you’re looking at their originality, which is not all the time pleasant. I think maybe that’s why immortals live outside the cities.

FIRST FLIGHT TO SAMADHI (PART 2)

You have some sensation before this first experience?

Guruji: I was doing yoni mudra. And I don’t know – something happen and the holding of breath continued. I found that I fell through kutastha – and this thing begin.

You can repeat it?

Guruji: no, it was difficult to repeat it. I couldn’t repeat it till Babaji blessed me, till I was able to see him face to face. It was three years. I couldn’t repeat it on my own – but then I was working out, practicing every day and I will think that “ I’m just very near” for the second – but it didn’t happen. Then, when Babaji blessed me on 2 nd of april 1988 – I couldn’t stay at home after that, begin to live on my farm which is several miles from the city – then it came.

again after yoni mudra?

Guruji: no, it’s very different principle there. He taught me how to.

You can stop your heart?

Guruji: within three months after initiation I could control my pulse and slow down my heart. I don’t know why it happened – but it come very naturally to me. I’ve did khechari after that – maybe in February 1983.

it is mind work or something physical?

Guruji: simply by willing: I think and it happens. Mind over matter. No matter how much we discuss on this – I don’t think the real principle it is possible to convey. This is the result of yoga practice. Whatever you want to put the level on that – yoga is yoga.

You were living on the farm…

Guruji: it was the most fantastic fairy-tale time. I was just coming from Benares after meeting Babaji; I was unemployed then and I’m unemployed now – no money, nothing; suddenly some money came my way and I begin to build a single-room small cottage with veranda on my farm – it took me nearly two years to finish. Then circumstances develop that I decided to leave home and shifted there out of the blue. Within two years of living on my farm the commentary on Gita came. Something blasted inside.

in Your first experience You felt the consciousness of humans around – what about animals?

Guruji: them too. But the smell of humanity was so overpowering that you could not concentrate on some other animal. It happened suddenly – you’re not in control. And you’re afraid also: will you leave or will you go back, am I dead – because you see the body lying like a corpse there. First time it’s the very frightening experience. Maybe it’s happened so suddenly and so surprisingly, I was not even prepared for what I will experience now. Later, when I was in control – it became better and better.

when You came back?

Guruji: about 1,5 hour and it happen automatically, I was not in control then. Only after several months and years when I came back – I begin to understand what happen there. Suddenly you cannot even describe, what you’re going through.

how did You feel after You return?

Guruji: it was beyond my tolerance. Because the blood circulation begin – the tickling sensation was all over the body. I was using all my will power to avoid shouting or something: that sensation was overpowering. Like many-many springs are all over your body – imagine, that your leg go to sleep and then suddenly the blood circulation come again.

You have a lot of power then?

Guruji: without any power. After that I slept maybe for 10 hours. Then I’ve lost interest to everything – even to take a shower.

You have vomiting after this?

Guruji: no, never. But mood remain bad; even now I’m think about it – it’s bad.

Samadhi experience is not end of yoga – it is just the beginning of another chapter.

From October 1990 – it’s 28 years now; you count every day – almost every day I’m experiencing it, so it will come up to thousands. After Babaji’s grace it became within control – more or less. No one can get 100% control – but more or less it’s tolerable.

that sensation all over the body – it presented the second time?

Guruji: yes, but much more tolerable. Every time it is more and more tolerable. I realized the wisdom that you must do physical exercises every day. I call the weight training like my body meditation.

I like it – because you work with different muscles, all your body parts are connected and you’re aware of them. I think that awareness only weight training gives you.

if you have not a good body and suddenly dive into Samadhi – it could kill you?

Guruji: I’ve seen and I’ve hear from my Guru and from others also that without preparation sudden experience – they usually not survive after 21 days. They lost every interest in life or something. I was lucky to survive it. Because of my Guru blessings or maybe Babaji were looking at me – I was able to survive. Also my body was strong enough.

You know someone from our lineage, who didn’t survive?

Guruji: that were some disciples of Lahiri Mahasaya. Outside our lineage I’ve never ever heard someone was in Samadhi. Or khechari mudra, or esoteric heights of yoga. Only in our lineage Samadhi is discussed so much. The main aim of this practice is also to achieve Samadhi. I’m always telling you: be ambitious! Have very strong desire to achieve Samadhi! And go for it. Technics are not for discussion, they are for practice. So use all your power, your concentration, your focus in practice – and it will give the results. That is absolutely current statement.

is it possible to prepare the body and nervous system enough for that?

Guruji: only very serious yoga practice will make your nervous system and brain very strong. And to tolerate the very strong brain, to support it – you need a strong body also. They go together.

how long time takes the preparation – to make the first experience of Samadhi tolerable?

Guruji: we cannot analyze it- because my case is exceptional. But only a champion can coach another champion.

It’s very good that I was going through the brain scan and all these machines; some people may think that stopping the pulse can be some trick or something. When device was on my head and I stop the pulse – the brain waves goes flat. I was not knowing that before, that was the new discovery for me. Doctors says: when your heart stops to work – brain waves will go flat after 3-4 minutes. When I stop my pulse – instantly brain waves go flat. That means – yoga is very mysterious thing, we don’t understand it superficially. More you will go into it – more deep understanding will develop. I’m still have the feeling – I’m the beginner in it, just a little scratching the surface of the iceberg. Let’s see –how big it is underwater.

Overpower tickling sensation all over your body – as the blood begin to flow in a regular way. Thousands and thousands of the small shrinks are going – and the tickling is overpowering.

no headache?

Guruji: nothing – but I slept for 10 hours. Then it was very difficult for me to get out and do things.

why such thing happened with You?

Guruji: the body was not prepared. Three years is nothing.

but Your body was strong enough?

Guruji: maybe that’s why I surviving.

OPTIMUM PRACTICE MODE

Guruji, when You started on Kriya – how long or how much You practiced in a day?

Guruji: 14 to 15 hours every day. And for 3-4 months I’ve tried to practice 20 or 21 hours in a day. But the day is different then: you practice for 20 or 21 hours then you need something then you sleep for 12-13 hours. Then you get up, get ready, eat something and practice for 20 or 21 hours – then you eat something and go to sleep for 13-14 hours. You cannot fix it in 24 hours in a day.

so for You it doesn’t matter – is it day or night?

Guruji: if you’re into it – it’s ok.

how You stop this routine?

Guruji: after I realized that precise technic is more important. And Babaji came; so no problem. When I experienced samadhi – then I stopped.

so only with such intense practice it came?

Guruji: yes, I did a little push.

what was Your level of practice that time?

Guruji: I will say – good level of practice. I was doing 1000 shvasahita pranayamas every day.

and how many mahamudras?

Guruji: 12 only. Even though I’ve done 144 mahamudras many times – in a day. It also takes 7 to 8 hours. If you’re doing the right proportion . We must test our limits: physical limits, mental limits, limits of our will power . I was not talking for weeks and months. And my mother worried my heart must be broken- some girl brake my heart so I’m just in my room. Mothers always think only this. Then I’ve begin to talk and I’m still talking.

so only after the first experience of samadhi Your routine changed?

Guruji: in fact I couldn’t get up for a few weeks: I was just lying in my room – it was so overwhelming effect. My hairs begin to be grey, chest was grey, beard was grey – and I’ve lost any feeling for anything. Then my mother was absolutely sure that my heart was broken by some girl. Then one day I’ve coming down from the bath and looked myself in the mirror and thought: what happened to me? Then Lady Luck smiled and I forced myself to do exercises. Somehow even within a week I see the reverse process started. Then I realized that physical exercises are extremely important to balance you. So we do it.

You feel better after first physical exercises?

Guruji: I was very tired but I felt better. That’s how we learn.

from what You start training?

Guruji: I had barbells and dumbbells and even some isometric things: so I’ve started with isometric thing, then some dumbbells and barbells – so it begin.

how Your body was looking before training?

Guruji: I was able to bench press 300 pounds. I was strong man. My bodyweight must be 83 or 84 kilos. And the last one bench press 300 pounds I did when I was 47. In 2017 I did incline bench press 110 kilos every day. Then the bench broke. Now I’m more careful: I’m using machine. Then I begin to worry about evil eye so I stop showing off(smiling). I could do squats 400 pounds 8 repetitions. Bench press 300 pounds; cleaning press 200 pounds. I think that’s enough strength for a pure vegetarian man.

if You had not such results in strength – you will not survive after such experience of samadhi?

Guruji: probably. That’s why I keep telling to all my students: exercise every day, make yourself strong. Yoga is not for weak . Devotion practice are recommended to them. Now looking back I think I had enough physical training: swimming, so many weight training, cycling, mudgars – so many things; arm- wrestling. And I’ve also noticed in college: if you defeat someone in the arm-wrestling match – he remembers it all his life. He will never forgive you for defeating; so we stopped it. My dedushka friend was also bench pressing almost same weight. He was good bench presser.

One of our trainers in wrestling was one-eyed man – we called him kaana behind his back – but we were respecting him. even though he was 70 plus – but he wrestling with young people and they were very devoted. And he will say: patha ( athlete or wrestler): if his thighs are very muscular, even if he wore dump clothes – everyone will turn back and look at him. and I agree absolutely with him.

why You were progressing so fast because You practicing so hard?

Guruji: actually my Guru told me, he was already 77 years old: he commented after initiated me – that I’m very old, I don’t know when I will die – so work hard. That made me very much afraid that after him who will teach me? So I did the best I could do with myself .

You should have the very strong mind to practice like that?

Guruji: I hope all my school teachers will hear you now about my strong mind(laughing) – they all disagreed.

THE LONGEST SAMADHI

When Sa Kriya samadhi started You described it in details; but I never heard you describing - and I know You experimented - the longest state of the suspended animation You experienced?

Guruji: It happened on my farm - I think probably in December 1991 or January 1992, just before we started Gita commentary. It was maybe 7,5 hour: but it took me quite a long time to recover from it.

I would like to ask You about the recovery process?

Guruji: Next day I was just lying there and my disciple came to cook; I was so feeling high that I did not even talk much. Then mudgars came to my help and I started to move mudgars and recovered.

So I made it a compulsory program to do exercise every day: that is the only remedy which will open your eyes. The longest I have been in suspended animation is 7,5 hours. And I’ve noticed, that even if you go to suspended animation for 10 minutes, 15 minutes or 7 hours - the result is more or less the same, I mean the spiritual result. But the body suffers more, this I realized later.

Was it the willful decision to stay for so long?

Guruji: It was a willful decision. And it is a very simple thing: I think everybody could do that. When you’re going to sleep - you could make the mental command: I will wake up at 4 o’clock - and you will wake up at 4 o’clock. So it comes from the mind. If you go into suspended animation - you will naturally come back within 1,5 hour. It looks like a standard time for that. No command, nothing - and you will come back from it in 1,5 hour. I think that is a standard cycle - and we should follow it and agree to it.

Is there a certain regulating mechanism inside of the body, which keeps it in samadhi for 1,5 hours?

Guruji: yes, and after 7,5 hours the body system, especially the digestion system, takes about 2 days to come back to normal. If it stays in suspended animation only for 1,.5 hours - then it remains normal. That is another observation, which came to my notice.

Is it a safety measure?

Guruji: Yes, an inner safety mechanism.

While remaining for 7 hours in this state did You keep extending it - like saying “remain, remain,” or “ I’ll stay longer”?

Guruji: No, when I went into it - I gave a mental command to come out of it after this much time. And I realized - it was not exactly a very intelligent thing to do - because the whole system went down after that.

because the blood circulation was interrupted?

Guruji: Because of interruption of the blood circulation the digestive system also became suspended - so whatever has been eaten remained unprocessed..

And what about the breathing process?

Guruji: When you will come out of it - breathing will be 1 or 2 breaths for a minute, no more than that.

And when You’re in Samadhi?

Guruji: N breathe, absolutely zero breathing.

So, the oxygen does not enter the system?

Guruji: No, that’s why the digestive system dries.

What about the blood circulation - how long did it take to restore after 7 hours?

Guruji: I think more than 1 hour. And that tingling sensation was overwhelming again: when the blood starts to flow you feel in your every pore, as if some spring fountain is coming up and that is overpowering. But it’s almost the same after 1,5 hours of Samadhi. After that I decided that nature’s way is the best: so 1,5 hours of suspended animation is the optimal. Nothing goes wrong in the body, everything remains in working condition after Samadhi, but even with that interval of time some physical exercises are needed daily. It happened almost 31 years ago.

You said when You recovered from the state of suspended animation the breathing was very slow – maybe the 1 or 2 in a minute: for how long?

Guruji: it lasted almost whole day. The heartbeat was also less than 40 – maybe 37 or so. I'm particular about these things. When you’re going into 1,5 hours of samadhi regularly – first it drops from 47 to 50 and it remains like that.

and it remains through the day?

Guruji: especially in the night time; in daytime also less than 60.

You said that the spiritual effect of the suspended animation was the same – whether it was 1,5 hours or 7?

Guruji: yes. 1,5 hours doesn’t do anything to your system – metabolic or anything; but 7,5 hours – troubled. It took me 2-3 days to recover from that.

but the satisfaction, if we mean the spiritual state afterwards?

Guruji: more or less it is the same, only physically you’re very drouthy after that and those physical symptoms which other will take as a very different thing. But inside you know – it is more or less same.

sometimes You say that answers coming to You in a state of suspended animation?

Guruji: many.

You have to focus on the question?

Guruji: no, it just comes. Even now – I mean I’m not doing anything but sometime things just come.

is it coming is a wave – like a slow wave or like a sudden punch?

Guruji: we can call it a wave and a sudden punch

so it’s not like a sudden burst of realisation?

Guruji: we can also call it – sudden burst of the realisation also. All mixed. I've been discussing, answering questions, and to my surprise sometimes I listen to my own answers which I did. Different principles are working.

ILLUSION OF MATERIAL WORLD PART2

Was there another incident on a roof when you disappeared?

Guruji: Yes, with Puri, my neighbor. We stayed in a rental house then, Their house was in front of our house at a distance. Many people started to come to me – and the family members wondered: “He’s going nowhere, he has no job or status; why then are so many people coming to see him?”

Sometimes we used to workout together with my neighbor. It was twilight time, I was standing on his roof, and he asked me: “What do You do, sir – are You an astrologer or something?”

I said “I do this” – and disappeared in front of him. He could see – which he told me later – the writing on the wall behind me. I thought he would enjoy this joke – but he got scared, he thought that I was a ghost. He disappeared for 20 years, then he came here with his mother…

Was it after you had come from that farm?

Guruji: Yes, that was a place.

Did you become able to stop your pulse around that time?

Guruji: I’m a lucky person; I think on the third month of receiving initiation in Kriya I gained control over my pulse. Before that I could do khechari.

How did these experiments with disappearance start?

Guruji: I don’t know… One time I was visiting my aunt in Mathura; I was sitting there and people were looking at me; it was evening time. Suddenly one of my cousins started to say: “Oh, what happened, I cannot see you!” Then I also thought – what happened? And then I experimented.

Were you successful because your focus and self-awareness were very deep?

Guruji: This understanding came much later. Aura also became big and bright then.

Did your head “burst into fire” – shining, in front of your mother?

Guruji: Yes, and many people have seen my aura, including teens and children. It takes quite a lot of magic to impress a child. They will not be impressed with your knowledge – if you’re a good story-teller, then, maybe…

GRACE OF BABAJI

What do you think was the main trigger point in the fact you left a house?

Guruji: When the first Samadhi happened – I was not expecting it. My mental state was absolutely different then and it clicked: every time you sit in practice, in the back of your head you’re always expecting that it may happen again. That means: you will never be in that same mental state the first time it came. Somehow, when that mental state began to appear again – it started. But it took two years of depression after my first meeting with Babaji. It took almost 5 years for me to calm down and relax; and the grace of my Guru worked as well.

But mentally the absence of this expectation was the condition?

Guruji: It is one of the – mental state conditions, which I have beside them – yes. You’re never in the same mental state again. That’s the main technical reach.

It’s probably one of the most difficult thing – not to expect?

Guruji: It will take time. Suddenly you cannot switch on and off your mind – it will take a few years at least for you to calm down. I’ve come across some people: they had some supernatural experience: instead of coming down they’re just waiting – why it is not repeating? – so much into it; and it never repeated again. Now it’s ok. It always takes time – to come down. This is another extraordinary thing: because some of the people – 4-5 people described their experience in Samadhi; but no one discussed how the second started and third started. I don’t remember reading about it anywhere. 5 years gap is too big of a gap. I think – when I look back – if Babaji had not graced me by his coming, I don’t think it would’ve repeated itself again. That was very good fortune for me.

You think even if You keep trying and keep practicing – without his visit, without this magic touch…?

Guruji: No, I don’t think I would be stuck there.

So what exactly was shifted by his visit?

Guruji: So many things, which he added: I think he was aware that I’ve experienced it. Otherwise he would never have come – I’m sure about it. Three years after!

The quality of the practice changed?

Guruji: Yes. Then maybe he took notice and then decided – this boy might need some guidance now; and he gave it to me. The first thing was – which I felt – the great confidence, exhilaration, happiness suddenly. We keep reading about him, we keep talking about him and at the back of our head we believe that he’s there; but when you’re face to face with him – very different type of confidence will come, which otherwise will never come. and exhilaration: I think this is the only word. And great solace – that he’s looking after you, he’s looking at you. Now it is 26 years – and I’ve no words from him: when he will be coming or he may not come. no idea.

You said once – it would be good to talk to somebody senior?

Guruji: Yes, I feel like this.

ABOUT LONG HAIRS

What is the meaning of long hairs from the yogic point of view?

Guruji: I let them grow; I’ve not shaved my head or have had a haircut since after December 1989. Then the idea came to my mind – that I should have a haircut, but the public opinion was against me. So I let them grow. But they’ve stopped growing – the length is the same.

If anyone achieves the high level in Kriya yoga – does it mean that his morality will be also on a high level?

Guruji: Definitely, yes.

…memories and experiences you should learn out of that; find them somewhere in your memory – but don’t remember them all the time.

Long hairs are always good.

I’ve heard it was some special fire haircut in the Roman empire?

Guruji: I f you want you can do that. Suppose some fire will burn your hair – then it will be a big tragedy: you need to stop the fire in time. I’ve seen some robbers, fire the moustaches of their victims – it’s a very bad looking thing.

My hair sometimes grows less, sometimes more – but there is more or less on the same level.

Does it depend on the karmic level or balancing the karmas?

Guruji: Probably. They’re still there – that is the best (smiling).

Guruji: after that I was not go anywhere; only when I was sick – I went to see a doctor. I’m nowhere to go. Most of the people are roaming the Earth to find a suitable place where they can settle down and relax. I’ve found it.

Yukteshwar Giri said one thing very great: those, who are to good for Earth are going to some other world. We would love to be here(laughing).

from what stage of development starts that thing about taking away the karmas of the yogi?

Guruji: it is from the beginning: the discipline is given by Shiva Himself.

these 12 years are only for the spiritual practice or for the physical practice also?

Guruji: for the spiritual practice. Here we say that wrestler’s career, bodybuilder’s career usually last 12 years. No more than that, their peak is gone after. But here it continues to grow.

You have so many disciples for the long time: maybe You have seen them crossing the 24 or 36 years of practice?

Guruji: I have crossed 3 cycles of Kriya yoga practice and I feel difference in each cycle. Within 12 years of receiving initiation I landed in smashan. In smashan we have already done 2 cycles of practice. I think mind grows, spiritual experience grows.

but every time is it the very big changes?

Guruji: first 12 years there was the big change: I wrote 5 books, landed here. Next 12 years Shiva appeared, He was installed and all these things happened in astral. Then – fantastic discussions begin in the third cycle. And also Shakti was installed. Now I'm in the 4th cycle of Kriya yoga practice now.

how long will take the whole cycle of full development in Kriya: 60 years, 120 years or 144 years?

Guruji: probably.

how You can estimate Your Rahu mahadasha?

Guruji: so many things happen and I learn a lot. He teaches you in a very different way.

unexpectable craziness???

Guruji: that is his sense of humour( smiling). He tests you very severely and also supports you; and the real mystical knowledge comes with Rahu influence. Just consider, how much ground we covered in Rahu mahadasha: it was his grace! He is very neary to Shiva. Now I'm in Jupiter: it’s much more peaceful and physically better feeling. These two Aghoris came in Jupiter: and atmosphere is different after they arrived. Before – everybody was talking at the same time; now they are quiet.

what are doing all that 500000 people, who came with them?

Guruji: they are the sort of disciples. It takes a very-very long time for understanding and develop for just a little. It takes time! That Aghoris are in this state for 400 plus years. Before that they practiced in the physical form.

FIRST EXPERIENCE OF SAMADHI

we discussed a lot about the changing of the mental level in the practice of Kriya, but what about virtues – what happens with them?

Guruji: they became very refined and stronger. They came to another level. After I begin to recover -thanks to weight training – another frustration started: because I couldn’t experience it again. It happened 5 years after – after meeting with Babaji it begin again. First experience – not necessary you will be able to repeat it again and again: because same mental state never be there. It happens when you’re not even expecting it. Then after every time you’re sitting – you’re expecting it: technically the mental frame is not the same.

You feel confidence to experience it again?

Guruji: no, confidence never came. But when it started – then it is fine: then euphoria begin.

what can You say after such great experiences: after thousands of samadhi – this euphoria is still there?

Guruji: euphoria is still here, yes( smiling)

when Your first samadhi happened?

Guruji: I was practicing in the night and it happened.

what exactly You practiced?

Guruji: in Yoni mudra it started.

You were counting to which number?

Guruji: not counting; it was the very long holding of breath suddenly: I have no idea I could hold that long; and I even stop counting. I went to 400+ and then I forgot to count – then it happened. Something happens inside which we have no control over – initially.

it was the state of kevala kumbhaka?

Guruji: not exactly: just breath seems unnecessarily.

now if You want – You can not breathe?

Guruji: with every pranayama my pulse stopping, my mental waves going flat: I don’t know which state I’m in now. What machines are telling us. We have never come across any Kriya yogi – with every pranayama the pulse is stopping, mental waves going flat – then they starting again and again; we have never heard of it.

even Lahiri Mahasaya didn’t write such experiences in his diaries?

Guruji: no, nothing. And I’m feeling normal.

first You discover Your pulse stops – You were scary of it?

Guruji: no, more curious. It happens in every pranayama. It started within 3 months of receiving Kriya from my Guru. With Ilya we discovered that when I’m stopping the pulse – mental waves are also going flat: I was not aware of that then, no machine.

what about Your second and third experiences of samadhi?

Guruji: I shifted to my farm and it started almost after 2 years of meeting with Babaji. First it happen – it was very sooth: I mean humanity was not there for miles, only wildlife was there- they never disturb you. Even their smell doesn’t disturb you. Then another thing took maybe less than a week, then 2-3 days, then daily, then anytime. And I still think: if I’ve not seen Babaji – I don’t think second phase would start ever. I would be living in the first memory most of the time, in heavy depression.

what happened after meeting with him?

Guruji: it gave me the great confidence; and that Kriyas he taught me: they were difficult.

after the second experience You had the firmly knowledge how it begins and how it goes?

Guruji: yes, and absolute opposite effect came: I became very strong physically, I was lifting men on one hand over the head, moving heavy mudgars 500 times every day – so it was the different effect on me physically, which more or less continues. Main effect was of meeting with Babaji.

so You could not repeat the first experience easily?

Guruji: very heavy depression came, yes. Physically weak. To repeat it took me 5 years plus.

if You want to change something in Your routine – You can do it or it’s strictly fixed?

Guruji: I don’t want to change.

what if You want to go outside?

Guruji: what I will do outside? I have no work, nothing – why should I go? All entertainment comes here. I’m not a monk – but I don’t like to go outside. Where should I go? Give me a suggestion!

when You started to practice – You always were so strong, so You cannot do lotus?

Guruji: no, I can do lotus – always; touching the knee was difficult – but I did it in 3-4 months.

You preferred to practice night time from the beginning?

Guruji: no, then I was doing morning-evening practice.

how much students had Your Guru then?

Guruji: maybe 1300-1400.

PREPARATION FOR SMASHAN

Your 2 years on the farm was the special preparation for smashan?

Guruji: I think so: I learned a lot about land management – all that knowledge came to my help here

but You felt – it’s not the final point of Your residence?

Guruji: yes, sure.

even while living on the farm You know that the permanent living will be here?

Guruji: yes, I was seeing it in visions since 1985

but I remember the story when You tried to move from here and being stopped several times?

Guruji: because I was disturbed too much.

Exercising with weights taught us a lot. The principles are very similar.

THE STORY OF GURUJI’S MEETING WITH A NAGA SADHU: MAGICAL SMOKE

after first samadhi how long did You suffer with weakness?

Guruji: more than a month. Maybe 5 or 6 weeks — then they arrived. It was a big effort to train; but after that smoke the mood changed. But these facts were never connected in my mind before. It suddenly started to be better. The mental state became cheerful. Depression was gone within two days.

You wanted to live again after that smoke?

Guruji: not live again — but just more power started, mood began to be better. Then I went to see my Guru; then Aghori thing happened, I came back and again visited them. That was a very interesting time.

interesting that Your Guru said nothing?

Guruji: yes, but sent me to this Aghori after listening.

The world was at their command: they could be the richest if they wanted: see, that confidence we can never imagine!

how did the workers who built the temple perceive them? Were they afraid, or respectful?

Guruji: they contacted the chief of the village: that our Guru has told us to build Hanuman temple here; and we will do bhandara for 5 villages. Villagers are very respectful to the sadhus. They created a hut for them; then they gave them money and the work started. And they gave them a timeline: you have to work fast — and they did work fast. Not a huge temple: just like a village small temple. They made the villagers do most of the work, providing them with the plan and the money. That’s how things are done: you give them money — things are done.

PH.D. DEGREE IN YOGA

After the meeting, when Babaji said something to me; he was standing there, I was behind him; and the man, who was with him, opened the door. My sister came down with a dog; she saw them and she was surprised – who are they? I just told her: Pranam karana, Babaji Maharaj! Then she did it; he said -ok; after all the talking he walked there simply, climbed the stairs, waved his hand and simply disappeared. We were planning to create a long road there but then I decided – it should remain like this. Fairy-tale-like things had just happened; only when we look back – we see that; otherwise during that time we were so shocked.

We were discussing technical aspects of yoga, Kriya yoga and most ancient texts on yoga – that's what somebody said on this and why this technique is like this; this year we finally started to communicate – how they develop consciousness – as a result of yoga practice when it comes. So I think we are progressing. When questions are coming – only with the developed mind and consciousness some deeper questions come and quests start. With ph.d. degree you will not ask the things I’ve already explained – you will already know about what exactly I’m talking about.

Samadhi will be like a ph.d. degree in yoga?

Guruji: Of course. I think we have discussed samadhi too much (smiling) and mudgars also.

For the first samadhi – You forced your practice a lot?

Guruji: I was doing the maximum level because my Guru said: take this art; when I’ll die – it will be no more. This was a very great force.

It happened because You accelerate Yourself.

Guruji: Yes. And there was fear also: when he will die – who will teach me? That fear made me work very hard. I’ve seen many fakes, so I was sure that nobody knows. And it happened.

So You are the exception of the rule: we discussed that a disciple could reach samadhi only when the Guru decides that he is ready?

Guruji: Maybe Guru has already decided that. I think – it definitely changed my metabolism. When you’re practicing for 20-21 hours then sleeping for 14 hours – the whole night and day system became different. And it continued for a few months. It really brought some very good changes inside.

After meeting with Babaji it became absolutely different.

The first samadhi was like a stepping stone?

Guruji: I think it was like a preparation for me – physically and for the nervous system. And the confidence is absolutely different – after you have gone through this. Discussing things – that people, who are working so much – is one thing; but once you do it yourself: then your confidence becomes something else. It was a good time. But my family was worried about me.

When you’re doing any tapas – everybody says that you should get up at 4 and sleep much less; and after this much practice I was out for 13-14 hours. You can’t sleep less, your body will not recover. Very grounded observation: initially, for maybe 2-3 weeks – I had to break up to go to the bathroom in between. But after 2-3 weeks – nothing: metabolism or whatever changed. Body needs time to tolerate.

If I’m right – when the body is really steady, it doesn’t need anything?

Guruji: But to make it really steady also takes time.

What is business? If you look at the spelling of the word – it’s like busy-ness, to remain busy in something. Human beings create so many problems for the god - so he created business to keep them busy all the time.so they are busy in business. They are trying to make more money to remain busy.

You stop doing purification ritual after some time?

Guruji: I receive call of Babaji and stop it. After that – no ritual. He said that simply sitting in this room is enough purification – it’s a great honor for me to hear that. Don’t you feel pure here?

My last part of sade-sati already begins. Some permanent things may happen – for the world and for the persons. Last time Saturn was here – I wrote my 5 books and landed up here. Let’s see what will happen this time. And second experience of Samadhi was also in Capricorn.

You had the 5 years gap between first and second experience; it was hard?

Guruji: emotional and nervous system: I mean you’re always apprehensive- what will happened, what happened? And nobody will understand what you’re gone through, what are you talking – it was hard period. But the confidence came after Babaji came and blessed, yes; otherwise I don’t know, what would I do. I’m sure the second experience never will come.

some key was missed?

Guruji: mental status; everything is different.

first case was occasional, but second you did deliberately, with the technics?

Guruji: technics, and blessings, and I became more mature in 5 years. Confidence came with Babaji’s meeting.

and he said to You, when it come next time?

Guruji: no, nothing. He didn’t even mention this. He gave me so much virtues.

You asked him, when it will happen?

Guruji: no, I was so nervous to ask anything. And surprised also.

but before second experience came – you know that it will happen today?

Guruji: not exactly. But I was confident. You see the situation: I leave home, live alone; after meeting with Babaji begin to build a cottage- out of the blue some money came; it went to that direction. It was needed that way: away from the crowd, away from the city – everything was arranged naturally by Babaji’s blessings.

so by all these features You understand that it’s near?

Guruji: it took two more years after my meeting with Babaji. Mentally it takes a long time to settle down, mind is not the machine which you can just switch on and switch off.

if You was not prepare in the beginning…

Guruji: I was always preparing myself for that

but You start to train hard after first experience?

Guruji: it simply stop my ageing. Until unless some elder, who knows this things will discuss things – you’ll never understand. If you just talk with other people – they will take you as a mad person. Nobody will understand what you’re talking – that is another problem.

Your second experience – how long it last?

Guruji: only 15 minutes – I was very careful so I put a clock in my mind for 15 minutes.

but how – if You don’t know that it’ll happen today?

Guruji: that’s how it happens.

You have tried before – but it didn’t come?

Guruji: no; only when I hope for the second experience – then I began to try.

and it happened in the day one?

Guruji: no, it took some time. 2-3 months.

and what after that 15 minutes?

Guruji: then confidence increasing every day.

how long it took to You to achieve the permanent state of samadhi?

Guruji: it started here, after Shiva Ji appeared and the puja begin. Maybe in 2001-2002.

it was Rudra granthi practice?

Guruji: yes, I was practicing inside.

can we put the time frame – for the first time You did it for how long?

Guruji: no, there is no time limit.

it started automatically?

Guruji: no, I was trying for it. It started after meeting with Matsyendranath; yes – that year we started dhuni.

why You started it?

Guruji: it was the part of the teachings, but also when you reach Shambhavi – you begin to understand so many things.

such state of samadhi doesn’t require the safety measures?

how You tolerate the after-experience of first Samadhi? How You survive?

Guruji: it was very difficult. It was many blasts; it became very difficult to tolerate my family – so I just left, begin to live on my farm alone.

how long You recovered after that?

Guruji: few months physically. I can’t believe it myself still. I achieved Samadhi at the 3rd year of practice. And my pulse were stopping within 3 months of practice. I think it’s from past life – one time it’s not possible. But to tolerate – it was difficult. Nobody around will understand, what’s you’re going through. When you will talk anything – they will think you have gone crazy.

in the beginning – You start talk about it?

Guruji: I’ll tell you: one of my cousin came, much older than me. He was just sitting there – and I was seeing the Void. Then I asked – what is between us? – what? – empty space! Immediately he thought – I’m completely mad. He came to my mother and said: he is talking in the very crazy manner. You should marry him or do something.

SECOND SAMADHI NEW

K: Second experience of Samadhi – was it at the same scale as entering the consciousness of others, like in your first Samadhi?

G: I was already on my farm – so for kilometres there were no people.

K: What happened exactly in terms of sensations?

G: I was already practicing for more than two years that techniques and improved pranayamas and kriyas Babaji had given me. All the new additions and pranayamas tuned up the body, it was more or less prepared for the next level…

I ’ m not sure when it happened exactly – maybe October or November of 1990. That time it was a very peaceful experience, there were no other people for kilometres. Only nature, and the vibration and the feeling of nature. And the consciousness of nature is much more beautiful and peaceful – and in that state it is more soothing than looking down at people who are engaged in different things… This Samadhi also lasted for a little bit more than an hour. Then it repeated itself again after 3-4 days; then it became regular.

K: Were the sensations of the body the same as after the first one? Like numbness…

G: Everything was the same: the physical symptoms and sensations were similar. But I had already realized the value of exercising every day – and so I was doing it and it balanced out my mind and body. That ’ s why I continue to work out so religiously, even now. But it was almost a 5-year gap before Samadhi happened again.

It’s been 31 years now since that time… 31 years in October. An exhilaration comes when you are tolerating such experiences, and the confidence comes as well.

And then family members and people who knew you before this transformation will take your confidence as arrogance. They will never understand: “Why is he so happy? Why is he so confident? What is the reason? He’s earning nothing. And we are working hard, we are achieving something in life – why is he so arrogant?”

Nobody will understand your mental state, except maybe your guru and some very senior people.

This confidence comes from the ability to progress. From the deepest achievement in yoga; it is the main reason behind such confidence.

… At that time my aura was so shining, so golden that anybody who was coming to see me was awestruck.

And I had to move heavy mudgars at least 500 times everyday to calm myself down – such was level of energy going through my entire body and nervous system.

Yes, from second experience of Samadhi onwards my physical strength increased quite a lot. Not only because of exercises. But also because of some transformative changes in the brain: it was stimulating the increase of my strength. Never before I had been that strong to lift people and hold them with outstretched hands above my head. A man of 107 kg was lifted once with just one hand. It was a different type of strength. That brings us to another interesting conclusion: if you are regularly going into Samadhi, your body composition will become different. And your physical strength and confidence will increase.

The whole story is extraordinary. There are no other accounts of Samadhi, where a second experience happened after a gap of 5 years. Never heard of it. But I am happy it happened.

Next year, in 2022, I will complete 40 years of practicing Kriya, but I still feel like a beginner. Maybe it ’ s a mental angle, but I am just beginning to see yoga as a very mysterious subject.

HOW GURUJI BECAME A GURU

I did khechari and my Guru told me to receive the second level – so I went there. After, he told me in the temple that I’m going to read chapters of the Gita – which he was doing every day. So, the case now: to do some service for my grandfather; – I’ve never done any service for anyone. He said: – oh, just do a massage. I put my fingers to his shoulder and arm – and very great feelings of fear came suddenly. I felt that it is not a stone or marble, I’m touching the living person. It was scary. He noticed it and said: ok, wait outside. I went outside, thinking what happened. Then after maybe 5-10 minutes he came running from the temple: I stood on my foot thinking I’ve made a mistake – now he’s coming to scold me. He said: yes, now You’re Guru. Everybody agreed – now You’re Guru. And I couldn’t understand the significance of it, it took quite some time. But the day was – 28th of April, morning time, around 8:30.

Then You felt the power?

Guruji: Something happened here; but exactly that day I couldn’t understand what happened. There was another young man, who was there when this thing happened – and he sent me with him to Lahiri Mahasaya’s house to pay our respect.

From that day I began to be more stronger physically and my Guru became weak – he became weaker and weaker day by day. This ability for instant answers started from that. When I look back I can connect it.

Did You ask Your Guru – he felt this presence of that great power?

Guruji: No, he didn’t like to speak philosophically. It took some time for me to understand, what happened. Suddenly, you don’t understand that…

because Your moon was in Sagittarius and then it moved to pisces – so it's the progression of the swadhisthana. You have the creativity to do whatever You want to do; and what You do is totally secure and there is no other variation to do that.

Guruji: I will quote Newton here: I’m standing on the shoulders of the giants. I didn’t want to change. The major change was: not a member of Lahiri Mahasaya’s family became a Guru.

We were not discussing much with the Guru.

He explained by himself something to You?

you see the difference before you start doing puja and after that?

Guruji: dramatic difference. I think Babaji decided to create special routine for me, which only a person with Samadhi can perform. I have not manas kama – I mean desire in the mind I would like to ask to Shiva; he appeared - so it is my duty to pay respect. And he is the first Guru of yoga also. He is our family god also, so it’s very natural for me now. The whole area is looking different.

TWO PHASES OF THE LIFE

It may sound like boosting to a normal devotee or something, but everyone of my friend and disciple will understand.

There life is of two types:

First phase- before meeting Shailendra Sharma

Second phase - after meeting Shailendra Sharma

Enjoy!

you said that when you finish your education in yoga, then begins the education in tantra.

Guruji: tantra means different aspects of the nature. Different spirits, different power, different energies. So when you are qualified to study them – the study of them will start.

the qualification is some certain quantity of Samadhi experience?

Guruji: no-no, your subconscious should become conscious – that is the only qualification. And you will learn so many things on the way also; it’s not like that the other education will begin only when you become 100 percent conscious. In the process of becoming conscious you will aware of so many things. It’s fairy tale thing! And yoga start works with the body, ends with awakening of the mind. To be strong you need the strong body. Body incidental is the strongest of the medium, so we need to take care of it. Everything goes from nauli and agnisara to other postures to gain certain kind of control over yourself. Many people could talk for hours philosophically, that god is having tea with them every day – but how many can do nauli? How many could do baddhapadmasana? Now I can’t do it, when my chest became much bigger.

I think you will do it in few months, if you have the desire to do it.

Guruji: now I have no desire( laughing). I was doing it before, but suddenly my chest begin to grow in size – it increase nearly 8 inches, which was beyond my highest expectations. I didn’t know, that weight training -bench presses and pullovers can increase it so much. But when Babaji gave me the certain things on 2 nd of April 1998 – suddenly my chest increase. I mean in 1,5 years it increase nearly 8 inches more. My weight also grow.

you change something in your diet or training?

Guruji: nothing; I think it was direct effect of Kriya yoga practice and all these pranayamas. And after my chest grow nearly 8 inches it became hard to do baddhapadmasana and after some time I stop to do it. I thought I should reduce it, but then I thought – that must be some change come into my body because of this practice, so I decide to let it go. I’m sure – when something will click, your chest also became much bigger than now. And maybe it’s already bigger than before. When lung expansion is there – somehow it increased. Even head size will be bigger.

You have so much great stories – maybe all Your disciples together have not so much?

Guruji: I still don’t know what is happening around me. Actually it was not planned, it just happen. All books I wrote seems unbelievable to me.

You have more than 10000 samadhis?

Guruji: yes, you can count since 1990.

You have gone through all levels of Kriya yoga?

Guruji : I will say somebody forced me to do that. Giriraj Ji, Shiva Ji or Babaji. I was discussing with so many knowledgeable people, experienced people: to be able to do Shiva worshipping in one place for more than 21+ years is nearly impossible. Many people try and they failed: until unless it is the wish of Shiva Himself. That’s why I say: it was not my planning, somebody forced me to do that; and that is good that way.

it is all like your training program?

Guruji: it could be training program – or maybe I’m just a small pawn in some big game.

someone gives You some hints in practice how to progress?

Guruji: nothing; no hints( smiling)

as I see – even in Your previous birth You prepared the whole situation for yourself?

Guruji: but who was there before that? Some facts only recently came to my notice; it was a big surprise. That sadhu died after one or two months after telling that story.

when we read different books of adventures – the common situation is like: the hero had one big adventure, then he had glory of this adventure and then retire peacefully. But in Your life You have unlimited and constant adventures?

Guruji: many-many-many, that’s true. Most of the people looking like the rifle with one bullet – so they usually have one chance to have a great story.

But I still don’t know in which direction we’re going. I keep 5 promises, I’m reading Gita every day, practicing every day. Only because my Guru told me to teach I’m also teaching but not much.

ON TIME AND PRACTICE

I practiced for 20 hours because I read in some of Yogananda ’ s books that Ram Prasad was doing 20 hours every day; I could not understand exactly how he could manage 20 hours of practice in 24 hours?

I tried it – and you already know my discovery: that you practice for 20 hours, then you eat something and go to sleep for 12-14-15 hours; your day will be different, it will not be limited to 24 hours, it will stretch.

I also understood that a break was needed for a biological clock. These adjustments in my schedule actually did a trick and I discovered that I need to sleep, I cannot remain awake for 20 hours.

Then, in about 2 hours, you will be ready to do it again; but you will need to sleep for 14 hours straight. And you will sleep like dead.

In fact, you were establishing your own hours and your day could stretch beyond 24 hours?

Guruji: Of course! If I had not tried it – I would never have discovered the mechanism of it.

Guruji: We were neighbours in Gwalior. When I was living in a rented house they were living in front of me. He is Lovely, my old friend. We were neighbours when I was living in Gwalior. And I will tell you a very interesting incident because now he is here, so it reminded me. So many persons were coming to see me. And we were having a good time talking and he was not aware that I am a yogi and I am practicing yoga. So one evening in 1988 we were standing on his roof, just having a breath of air and that’s it. And he asked me, “What you do, why these people come? Are you an astrologer or a tantrik?” I said: “No”. “Then what do you do?” And I disappeared in front of him. And he was so afraid that he came to see me after 18 years of that incident. He thought that I am a ghost.

Then I became aware that anybody would be scared. I thought we would laugh at that but I was wrong.

Q: Why did you disappear? Just to show him something?

Guruji: No, actually I was not mature enough then. And I thought that it would be funny and he would laugh and share the joke but in fact he was afraid. Then I realised that it is not a very healthy thing to do because he had no idea about yoga then.

Samadhi

Q. Have you experienced samadhi?

A. My first experience came in 1985, three years after my initiation. The second experience came in January 1987.

Q. Did it happen during the practice, or after the practice?

A. It happened in Yoni Mudra after I exhaled. Suddenly something just clicked inside and opened, like a door. The first experience always comes when you are exhaling after Yoni Mudra.

Q. How long were you in that state?

A. I would say almost for an hour and a half. It was at night. The first experience was anti-climatic. I felt my consciousness entering almost every house in the city. I was able to feel what people were doing, all the activities.

Instantly a whole array of their emotions came to me – and I suddenly understood all these emotions. It was very overwhelming. Just imagine, your consciousness is suddenly in all the places simultaneously, in every house, in every being at once. All of them were doing different things. Some were eating, some were defecating, and half of them were having sex: There was such a mix, a cocktail inside of my mind during this first time. And the smell of humanity was unbearable.

Then you learn how to go beyond that. In this state, you are also very intensely aware of your own existence: you will never forget your name or personality. You

rather remember everything you have forgotten while taking different births. And this memory will last. It is impossible to forget.

I was twenty six and a half. In fact I failed to understand the significance of it. I thought whoever will do khechary and receive second level will be able to become a Guru. That was my first impression. For about one hour I was under this impression. Then I asked one of the fellow disciples who was present: «how many gurus were there?» He said, “No one.” Then I discussed it with my Guru. Actually it was too big a thing to be taken, understood by me then.

have no interest, I was just lying in my room for a very long time and my hairs were coming grey – on beard, on head was many grey, the chest was grey. In fact one day somehow I – I was taking bath every day – and I came bare body into my room and I look myself in the mirror and thought: “what is this?” then I begin to think and that direct came to me, that Samadhi is like experience of death – so the signs of old age are coming fast. And then I remember, reading in Tibetan yoga, that because of speed of aging you have to do something with it. And the only thing I do was training the exercises – I force myself to do exercises. I become very regular in it and I began to recover. Then all these mercury things. It was in 1985: I was 26 or 27. Recovering takes three years. It was fantastic. But again I’ll tell you – it was by the grace of Gurus that I was able to recover. If your body is not prepared and some such experience follow – you will lose interest in everything. It is different mind state.That’s why you have to be very-very careful in mentally progress.

Q: but your body was ready for Samadhi?

Guruji: if it will be there, all this grey hairs and other things will never happen.

Q: is it the same condition you reached after end practice?

Guruji: yes. But it become different after some time. You see, if you drink vodka first time – you feel different. But if you keep drinking it every day – you feel different. It is like that. You become use to it. I keep stressing, that Samadhi is not the last point – you need to practice Samadhi also. And your mind will become different. That is the beauty.

Q: so second time you reached Samadhi technically?

Guruji: it took a long time. It begin again after meeting Babaji. In 1988.

Q: you describe your first experience?

Guruji: oh, I describe in detail. It was horrible experience: I was doing Yoni mudra and I don’t know what happen – I continue to hold my breath and the circle appeared very-very bright, came near and I sort of fell to it. And then it begin. I could see the almost everybody’s mind working – half of the people were having sex, some were ploting this, doing this , sleeping, – it’s not a very pleasant feeling to observe humanity. It is always shocking first time. Feelings, thoughts, emotions – so many things you feel. Sadly it was very small number of people who was really good, appear good in that. Very-very few. And I forgot to mentioning – now I remember – and I made the point to see three-four of them after I getting normal. One was guard of samshan just behind my house – in that experience he was a really nice person. And there was one or two more. Very insignificant because you can not call them successful from any point of view, but they were really good – from spiritual point of view they were good. And even woman who was coming as a maid from this house – she was also good. I think it was the very great experience because my point of view became different after. I begin to observe humanity from the absolutely different point of view.

I was already a guru when I came here first time, in December 1991. I was practicing since 1982 so I have nine years of practice behind me – very intensive, fourteen hours a day nonstop. That’s why I preferred to remain unemployed. After fourteen hours of practice you are not fit to do any work. And my mother was worried all the time why I did not leave my room. “Maybe he has fallen in love with a girl, she has broken his heart, so he is always inside his room”. They were worried about that.

I used to practice in the night. I started at about 8 O’clock and I went to sleep in the morning. So my family members were thinking: “He was sleeping all night. Now he is sleeping again”. Those were fun days.

Today I am completing twenty six years of my practice. I wish to feel the time of practice. Now I can say that I became dimly aware of the sense of yoga after twenty-six years of practice. Some understanding is developing. Everything is different: the situation and my mind. Look, what I am to realize is not disturbed. I am a different person. Every day there is something new. Yesterday I was different, today I am different, and I am sure tomorrow I may be even more different.

Q: someone help you first time?

Guruji: oh, I came back automatically. After 1,5 hour. I think Babaji protects me- and you also.

But I would like you to have your body prepared. The better you are trained – the better your chance for surviving in future. Maybe some day we will have 100 disciples in Samadhi. But it will be not the show.

Q: but if 100 disciples will be in Samadhi – it will be like a blast for the area…

Guruji: it will be. Not for the area – for the whole world, for the whole planet.

That made me work very, very hard. I thought that after searching all over India I found him. And if he died – what would happen, who would teach me? That made me work harder and harder. And on my third visit on 28 of April 1984 he declared me the next Guru. I haven’t received complete kriya even then as he declared me.

Then he called me 2-3 times a year and made me initiate other persons.

If somebody asked a question he asked me to answer that question and listened silently whatever I was trying to answer. And if there was a possibility of improving the answer, he said: “You could also have answered this way”.

He taught me like that.

Everything changed after he had declared me the successor. The ability to give instant answers came from that day – before I had been very shy and not talking with anyone, mostly silent. But from that day it came: whenever somebody was going to discuss or ask me something – I would answer.

I became physically strong – and he became physically very weak. Within seven days’ time he became so weak that we had to carry him on our back to climb the stairs – he wasn’t able to climb them because of becoming suddenly too weak. Maybe some power transferred or something happened – it’s very difficult to say.

“That happened on the morning of 28th of April, 1984. My life changed completely. People began to come to me just on their own. I never advertised myself and I never told them that I was a guru. But somehow people began to come to me and ask certain things. I became eloquent as I was now able

to give answers to different questions. But also came a huge responsibility, because when you initiate somebody, you are supposed to be responsible for whatever he does and what he makes of his life”. Soon in 1984 Shailendra experienced his first samadhi, the confluence of individual consciousness and the cosmic absolute. Then Babaji appeared and taught him certain breathing techniques, pranayamas.

“Suddenly I became much wiser. Besides I became so strong that I was lifting most of my disciples over head with one hand. And that was the first time I understood that yoga practice also gives you extraordinary physical abilities and strength”.Once a disciple of Yogiraj asked him some question – and unexpectedly he composed the whole commentary on Bhagavat Gita. For three weeks were his disciples taking down from his dictation.