Atit ghat and atit shunya

yesterday You said, that Kriya yoga wash out karma – what is the mechanism?

Guruji: yes. I’ve explained it in one of my comments in “Gorakhbodh”: he’s saying atitaghat.

That means – when you subtract your past from your life. Then you’re free. Subtract means just removing the past from your life; that means all karmas, the memory, their effect, the reactions will be removed.

it’s like to forget?

Guruji: not forget – remove all. We’re all hanging from our past, from the source. When you will remove your past from your life – you will be back to the source.

but we’re living in society

Guruji: oh, it’s temporary thing.

I mean – I live in my home town. This is all my past life. If I achieve Samadhi – I will not remember anything?

Guruji: subtracting your past from your life absolutely – is beyond Samadhi. It will be no past. That means no future. That means you’re always be established in the present moment. That will be something.

you will decode all the DNA memories in your body?

Guruji: every memories gone. It will become supernatural then.

can we say that from that moment karma is beyond society?

Guruji: YOU will be beyond karma. Every karma – what is karma? – it is the carrier of the past. Your karma depends on your past. When you subtract your past from your life – no karma will remain.

and how to subtract?

Guruji: with enough practice you will achieve that. Your body is representing your past. When your consciousness will spread beyond your physical limitations – then you will be subtracting your past.

your perception will be not depend on your eyes, ears?

Guruji: yes, it will be different.

does it mean we will have no desires?

Guruji: the desires will be not influent by personal level. They will be absolutely new. Most of our desires are influent by past experience.

NO PAST NO FUTURE

about “subtracting your past” from Gorakhbodh: it’s like puzzle you understand?

Guruji: no, it’s not a puzzle – it’s real achievement. Very simple for me: when you will subtract your past from your life – you will have no future. And you will be permanently established in the moment of the present.

when you’re subtracting your past – you remember it?

Guruji: of course! That also means that all your genetics and DNA memories will be different then. You’re wiping away all your memories from your physical body as well. So the consciousness will remember – but the body will be absolutely different. That is transformation. No past, no future – ever in present. And the moment of present is everywhere – even in the past or even in the future. That’s why they say: he is in all three faces of Time – past, present and future.

you will understand – why this happen, why that happen?

Guruji: oh, it’s much earlier thing; that’s ultimate result of this. You will have all the memories and all the wisdom.

ATIT GHAT AND SELF-PERCEPTION

You said once that after Atit ghat our perception of ourselves will be absolutely different: could You give us some more details? For example – You know, that You are Shailendra Sharma…

Guruji: it is the name given to me by my parents, I was born in a certain family.

what about notions of good and bad?

Guruji: they will change the definitions.

so even the deeds you considered as good after seeing all the chain of consequences…

Guruji: see, if there are bad deeds then you will never reach to that understanding. Mostly good things are behind you, - otherwise you will never remember, never understand this.

will You see the chain reaction of all Your deeds after Atit Ghat?

Guruji: easily, yes.

will You understand the peculiarities – for example why do You have this habit?

Guruji: you will understand exactly. Not always your deeds: your exposure to different situations – that also matters. Not always deeds or karmas.

for example two lives back I’ve seen the king with his ornaments – that’s why I like to wear gold: like that?

Guruji: you may have lived like one.

ATIT GHAT - AWAY FROM HUMAN MEMORY

We have discussed Atit Ghat in Gorakh Boddh!

And why Yogi are stressing on reversal of the Breath.

When you are breathing normally, all the memory of the air molecules you are inhaling.

That means, when your breath is reversed, and You began to exhale oxygen and inhale carbon dioxide, that means you are staying away from the memory of all the humanity!

That is beginning of Atit Ghat!

To away with all those idiotic memories.

Thank you!

ATIT GHAT and the BODY

If Atit Ghat is taking place, then all your memory is also be gone: so where the wisdom and the knowledge will remain? Because as we have said – memory is the basis of knowledge?

Whatever experience we gone through becomes part of your persona: it will not depend on your memory, your very person will made of these things. And ability to cognise will not be depending on your past experiences. We keep recognising things, we rarely cognise anything; that type of mental development you will have.

They also use one word: Atit Shunya – when the past will become like void: it is there, but it is not there. That’s the main thing here.

back to the previous amazing topic: when your consciousness flows in all different shunyas – so Atit Shunya is again inside the body?

Guruji: body represents the past: when you’re moving in the empty space inside the body – which is 99,9%: that is Atit Shunya. When you come out of it – it is behind you.

when we discussed that some parts of the brain are active and some – not; when new parts become active, then Atit Ghat starts? Because all memories are there?

Guruji: no, it is very difficult to say, when it will start. You experience Atit Shunya – after that Atit Ghat will take place.

for me now it’s only scary words – Atit Shunya and Atit Ghat?

Guruji: look at the empty cup: that is shunya of the cup. You look inside the empty space inside your body: body represents the past: that shunya, empty space inside the body, is Atit Shunya.

so when I will experience it – Atit Ghat will start?

Guruji: after that. When your mind will become even more stronger. That is the main principle of renunciation: when you experience it, then you renounce it also: that is Atit Ghat. Remember, all shunya is pure consciousness. Because of all empty spaces in our body – chidakash, medhakash and others – life happens.

Such experience is extremely intense and high awareness of your own self. You will just become aware suddenly one day.

One man was going somewhere. And on his way he saw Gorakhnath, who asked him – where are you going? He said I’m going to die, I’m so tired of everything. Gorakhnath said –wait, wait: if you want to die - die properly. And then you’ll finally die, and you have not to die again and again. If you don’t know, how to die – I can tell you everything about death. After that man become his disciple. That’s how yogi do.

When you remember all your past – only then you will realized the source; that’s why remembering the past is so important. When you remember all your past – you are clear, all your thoughts are clear and all karmas will disappear. Your past will lead you for your source from the beginning. Subtract all your past and only source will remain.

ATIT GHAT and DNA

maybe You have some ideas how the Atit Ghat exactly working with DNA: it’s unpacking something or it is changing something?

Guruji: first I think it will begin with your mind; most of the memory will work them out: they will remain – but you will not remember them.

And same thing I think with DNA memory – new story will begin with this. See, most of the philosophers say: remain in the present moment; you can remain only in a present moment when all DNA memories has been erased. Then only you can establish yourself in the moment of present. No sanskar.

it will be like a new cycle or circle in DNA after Atit Ghat: it will renew itself but not creating new sanskaras?

Guruji: it will erase all old sanskaras as well

yes, but yogi will continue to live

Guruji: yes: that’s why they say – the sanskaras never touch a yogi: it means he’s not creating new memories at all, only getting wisdom instead of memories. Average person is getting memory – but not wisdom. This difference will always remain.

by erasing our DNA memories we’re erasing our DNA limitations?

Guruji: yes, memory is the limitations.

when we were children – it was no memories…

Guruji: … so Wonderland remains - everything is mystical. As long as the effect of the memory will remain on your thinking – no free thinking is possible. Erasing the memory is the very different thing; but effect of the memory should not affect your thinking. It should be very open, free.

REAL YOGI IS A MYTH!

Guruji, what will be with the Yogi who will be very successful in achieving the state of ATIT GHAT?

Guruji: Well, he will became a LEGEND, HE will be established in his true nature, and he will become a MYTH. He will become very FAMOUS! And his true nature will always remain there! Not exposure to the society or anything!

HE WILL BE A MYTH!

GURUJI, ARE YOU THE GREATEST?

I am honoured You think like that!

BUT I AM NOT THE GREATEST,

BUT I AM THE LATEST!

ATIT GHAT

I’m trying to say about Atit ghat: atit ghat means subtracting the past absolutely. We concluded that there are six lines of Time, and we’re experiencing only one line – maybe even not fully, only 2%: past, present and future. How will atit ghat happen, how will you subtract your past? Very simple; think from a science fiction point of view. Suppose you’re time travelling and going 20 years back: you’re still living in that particular time frame. Since you have taken birth you’re continuously living in different time frames – like a movie reel. Every frame is there, but because it is moving – so it looks like a movie, otherwise it’s a single frame. So atit ghat will happen when all those frames you will bring and they will merge inside you, and your personality will become fantastically powerful. Then you will be in a situation to imagine any future you want; it will not be depending on your past karmas or anything: it will simply depend on how creatively imaginative you can be. What will be that? That will be the moment of absolute present.

Only after this subtracting of the past you have achieved – then maybe you will be ready to experience the second line of Time. That may be a qualification marker for you.

It's completely different from the understanding I had before – much higher and deeper…

Guruji: It was not pondering on a particular point: suddenly this information will be overwhelming, mind will not register it.

You will go first to past life, then the previous life?

Guruji: Everything: whatever traces are there in the timeline. Just imagine, how powerful your personality will become.

How do these different personalities combine in one?

Guruji: Whatever- it was you ultimately

So they will not conflict with each other?

Guruji: No.

It's like the story which never ends?

Guruji: Yes, until atit ghat happens.

And you will remember the whole story from the beginning without a break?

Guruji: You’re erasing that; not even erasing – you’re pulling it and merging in yourself: it is your own traces of energy.

So you're just collecting them?

Guruji: Going inside: you’re pulling them and merging in yourself.

But what will be with the history?

Guruji: You see, history is too busy to remember anyone.

That I understand – but any mention about me, like photos or documents?

Guruji: It will be the great change in the fabric of Time. Only then you will be ready to go to the second line of Time.

So not any photo or someone's memory – like this person was never before?

Guruji: But your impact will remain. Like in “Man in black”.

Think from another point of view: “Rembo: the first blood” for instance – I’m just trying to create an example. Keep your eyes on every frame of the movie – from starting to end. If you merge all the frames together – he will start to look 3-dimensional. But then there are only 2 dimensions. Like that! Only when you will become 3-dimensional – second line of time you will become aware.

Will it directly affect our DNA?

Guruji: Everything; it will be an absolutely free existence. Not tied by any thread or something. Just imagine, how much more powerful you will become.

All are parts of the same process.