YOGIRAJ MAHARAJ

Book 4 · Part 4 · Chapter 2

Vishnu, Brahma, Krishna, Hanuman, Ganesh and the other gods

From the text: Most gods are children of Kashyapa rishi, maybe from different dimensions; Vishnu is considered his son, not Brahma, and nobody knows about Shiva, self-born.

41 sections from 30 Darshans · 8,533 words · 5 sections of Guruji’s book listed

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  1. Hanumān's epithets · Hanumanji Manojavam
  2. Vanishing as thought-speed; education and imagination · Hanumanji Manojavam
  3. About Guruji's Books: literary recollections, training, Shiva worship, society and compassion · ABOUT GURUJI’S BOOKS
  4. Mahashivaratri: paired divinity, disciplined sensitivity, death, happiness and cosmic power · ABOUT MAHASHIVARATRI
  5. Causal/astral senses, Earth-transformation analogy, individual awareness and relationship types · CONCEPTS OF CAUSAL AND ASTRAL
  6. Spirits' awareness and introductions · DIFFERENT THOUGHTS…
  7. Shambhavi steadiness and how devatas come to be · GREED
  8. Soma, amrita, and the childless devatas · GREED
  9. Ishwar heading; no comparison with devatas · Ishwar
  10. Nandi and Hanuman: two characters, Skanda purana incarnation, Rama as Shiva · Kutastha
  11. Vishnu as assumed sustainer; Bhumapurush and the hair story · Kutastha
  12. Hanuman Ji manojavam — speed of the mind · KĀL BHAIRAVA AND THE FIFTH HEAD OF BRAHMĀ
  13. Personification of deities · LOVE IS FOR THE WISE
  14. Time as the basis; devatas, Ishwar and Bhagavan · Mantras, nadis and the subtle body
  15. Raja Bali's current power, globalization, the seven rishis · MOTIVE PRIMARILY
  16. Who created Yahweh — earth spirit, Bhairav and Shiva's game · Ojas, tejas & prana.
  17. New puranas later - raja Bali and the post-Mahabharata shuffle · PITRI TARPANA
  18. Hare Krishn — Krishna as Kali incarnation, Shiva and Shakti, and the krishnaits · PRAKRITI, PURUSH, GUNAS.
  19. The Hanumanji story — the taniwala (Master) and the father's testimony · RICH PEOPLE
  20. Kashyapa's children; lingams in the chakras · RUDRA YAMALA TANTRA(continuation)
  21. Mahakal, Hanuman Ji and the other side of life · SENIOR AND YOUNGER IMMORTAL
  22. Incarnations, immortals and the Taoists · SENIOR AND YOUNGER IMMORTAL
  23. Ishwar is a source itself; where prana comes from · SHAILENDRA SHARMA MAKING THIS STATEMENT FOR THE FIRST TIME
  24. Mumba Devi; democracy and Vishnu; raja Bali's donation · SHORT STATEMENTS
  25. Vishnu the limitless, the void, and democracy inheriting the Earth · SIN; ENJOYMENT VS SUFFERING;
  26. Different spirits, god as a powerful spirit, Yahweh among shepherds, worship increases power · SPIRIT & MAGIC.
  27. Hanuman untold — part 1, Ramayana · TEST FROM MATSYENDRANATH
  28. Ancient activation denied; the Brahma and Shiva clash · TIP OF THE ICEBERG
  29. Heading: RADHA IS THE BASIC NATURE OF SHRI KRISHNA · TIP OF THE ICEBERG
  30. Ganesh, Adi Shakti, ubtan and the earth element · TO BE PURE ENERGY
  31. Obstacles, the elephant head and karma memory · TO BE PURE ENERGY
  32. Pushan, Savitar, and the eight vasus under the Earth · Village wisdom and accounts of siddhas
  33. Brahma, Hanuman, creations and worship of humans · The body as clothing for the spirit
  34. Instagram clip: avatars — Vishnu's come with a purpose and depart, all of Shiva's are immortal — in badly garbled captions · Avatars and spiritual attainment
  35. Tao Te Ching — Discussion 9: Cosmic Breath of Time — Vishnu's dream and Brahma's lotus · Tao Te Ching — The Yogic Way
  36. Tao Te Ching — Discussion 10: Krishna's Flute — The gopis dance to the flute of Time · Tao Te Ching — The Yogic Way
  37. Tao Te Ching — Discussion 11: Evolve to Dissolve — Krishna makes women smile · Tao Te Ching — The Yogic Way
  38. Tao Te Ching — Discussion 11: Evolve to Dissolve — The Leela is the silence expressed · Tao Te Ching — The Yogic Way
  39. Tao Te Ching — Discussion 11: Evolve to Dissolve — Stillness grows denser as the Leela spreads · Tao Te Ching — The Yogic Way
  40. The End of Vedic Times · The End of Vedic Times
  41. Immortality objection and social inference · The End of Vedic Times
  42. Kubera and convergence · The End of Vedic Times
  43. Govardhan/Bali and worship revenue · The End of Vedic Times
  44. Darshans2019#09 · Darshans2019#09
  45. Relationship between devatas and humans now · Darshans2019#09

Hanumanji Manojavam

Hanumān's epithets

With all my respect to Hanuman Ji, as we were speaking about the speed of light is nothing. I think going by the speed of mind, being there instantly, is the name of the game. Hanuman Ji is described as Manojavam. Marutatulyavegam. Vatatmajam Buddhimatam Varishtham. Manojanam means he can travel at the speed of the thought of the mind. His force is much much more than big cyclone for the air element. He's so forceful. And he is the son of the Vayu. And he is a senior among the wisest people. That's how they describe Hanuman. Sometimes they say that he appeared before me, then after talking he

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Hanumanji Manojavam

Vanishing as thought-speed; education and imagination

disappeared. He didn't disappear. He just went from that point somewhere with the speed of the mind. And our eyes are not so sensitive to [music] catch it. And that's how he appeared. He came with the speed of the thought. If you are moving faster than the light, you will become invisible. >> Invisible. >> Light is not reflecting on you. How will a rider, who is a very good rider, cannot move faster than his horse, can suddenly imagine someone traveling at the speed of the thought? You need to be educated just to understand that. That's why education is important. Every advancement in science has made us our imagination more powerful.

We are starting to imagine >> in movies.

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ABOUT GURUJI’S BOOKS

About Guruji's Books: literary recollections, training, Shiva worship, society and compassion

ON THE GODS AND HUMAN DEVOTION

If we take the Greek, Aztec, Hebrew or other gods- we continue to worship them: is there practical hope that some day they will notice you; what is moving us? There is no confirmation it can be; we’re begging for practical things basically- health and wealth?

Guruji: basic thing is the hope for surviving

spermatozoids are praying to their own god then? We still thinking that higher force is capable for grace

Guruji: they are capable. They are manipulating the world.

but You said they are manipulating the nations and bigger sets rather than individuals?

Guruji: but only Shiva is living on planet Earth. And if you see the pattern: all heavenly immortal gods disappeared. Now people are worshipping different things. Divinity is becoming more human. Krishna, Moses, jesus Christ, profit Mohammad, Buddha, Sai Baba, Lahiri Mahasaya, - they are all human beings. This was never ever before.

indians are pretty practical: if they have not help from above- how the thousands of years of worship will work?

Guruji: that means they are just livestocks, providing food for heaven.

is there proof that it’s certain hepl, which cones down? Otherwise there will be no continuation- what will sustain this hope for help?

Guruji: I think because we come from the other side and go to the other side- somebody present this dream in very professional way; we love to follow, we love to be devoted, we like to serve; after death we will get it- but what about this life?

but why people continue to worship?

Guruji: it becomes the family thing: their father and forefathers worshipping; and they talk with so much devotion- so sanskar forms slowly.

so if god doesn’t help the person he think it’s because he’s the sinner- like that?

Guruji: god works in a mysterious way, my child( laughing)

All Gods are living in heaven or somewhere else- and Shiva Ji is living there. And he was the first who talked about equality- no one else.

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ABOUT MAHASHIVARATRI

Mahashivaratri: paired divinity, disciplined sensitivity, death, happiness and cosmic power

AND GOD CREATED MAN IN HIS OWN IMAGE

what happened with all those mythologies which gods are now not in power – but all of them have their own heaven and hell?

Guruji: their civilizations disappeared. Because gods lost their powers – the civilization ended. Their worshippers also gone.

I thought people are holding the gods in power?

Guruji: no.

what happened with their heaven and hell as a places: they were destroyed?

Guruji: maybe like Sandman: someone took them for own purposes. We’re like land and crop: sometimes when owner becomes slack or lazy – land rejects him. It is owner’s power, which will take good care of the land and the crops and whatever is growing on it. It’s not vice versa.

Only gods will put them some inspiration.

is it possible that some city or district will revive its own old god or goddess?

Guruji: look in the history: once the god is gone – he never revives. Not a single case even they tried.

how it happened that jewish god start to rule the majority of the world?

Guruji: slowly-slowly they gained force and begin to dominate the world. Early Christians were thrown in front of the lions in Rome. They went through very bad times, very difficult times. Slowly- slowly they gathered force and now they are dominate the world. Some big power was behind them. Even son of god had very bad time in the beginning.

so that type of gods: they are not immortal?

Guruji: yes, they are very long-lived.

how to understand that the ritual to the certain god was successful?

Guruji: if it was done correctly – it will work.

there is no sign – like the strike of the lighting bolt or something?

Guruji: we have not seen that for centuries.

or maybe the rain started?

Guruji: rain we have seen many times. It’s the sign of success.

but all these things like described in Mahabharata and other ancient books – like the rain of flowers, celestial music…?

Guruji: after Mahabharata it was never seen. But it was real: heavenly gods- they do something.

but if someone will worship the owners of the land, of the Earth?

Guruji: in India we’re still doing it.

that powers – are they eternal?

Guruji: as long as Earth will remain – they will remain. They are always supporting.

that powers: for example – power of the hill, power of the lake – they are considered as devatas?

Guruji: no, the hill is divine, the river is divine, the lake is divine: not that some deity is there. The hill itself, the lake itself, the tree itself.

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CONCEPTS OF CAUSAL AND ASTRAL

Causal/astral senses, Earth-transformation analogy, individual awareness and relationship types

BECOME REAL AND DON’T CARE

The curd is being churned; so much violence is going on - but then after the butter comes up. Finally you’re gone through the churning of the world as it is: then you will be like butter and ghee and you will be on the top – then nothing will disturb you, because you have already gone through every possible disturbance of it. So no disturbance any more.

for the person – is it acceptance of all that disturbances?

Guruji: actually that was the real incident: He save the world. And you see what happens with the yogis. Shiva Ji is the first yogi, first giver of yoga; and when the ocean was been churned so many good things were coming – but He was given poison. Every good things the gods took away and went away. But here also we need to observe one thing: because He was able to hold this poison in his throat – He became Mahadev. all other gods were just coming to take something good. Even then – when they were drinking amrita – even then no power. So the power of digesting poison is far more superior than amrita. You also have to remember that.

in Gita it is said that no matter what yogi is doing – he’s just perceiving himself in that action, like the different aspects of himself?

Guruji: after realization. What is realization? In this creation of illusions when you make your existence real - that is the realization . When you will become real – of course you will observe the illusions. Think on that.

is it true that the all three aspects exists in the yogi: the creator, the sustainer and the Destroyer?

Guruji: if you want to put a name to it – yes. But that is simply connected with the life: you’re born, live a life and you die. Creation, sustaining and destroying.

Brahma is always in the past?

Guruji: your birth is past, yes. Body represents the past.

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DIFFERENT THOUGHTS…

Spirits' awareness and introductions

all the spirits knew You?

Guruji: if Hanumanji himself will introduce You to the other side – every spirit will become aware of your existence. It depends on the introduction: who is introducing whom.

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GREED

Shambhavi steadiness and how devatas come to be

Q : why exactly no blinking is connected with devatas – what is the meaning of it?

Guruji : non-blinking is the state of Shambhavi; when your mind is extremely steady – you blink much less than average person. Their mind is very different – so no blinking. And they don’t need to lubricate the eye balls also – that’s why we keep blinking. They are different. This blinking is a lubrication program. They can go on forever without ageing .

You see, everybody loves to remain young. And I say: if you have not attain the steadiness of the physical body – how you can claim that you have made your mind steady? Body is the gross thing, mind is very subtle – how can you make it steady?

Q : before they attained the state of devata – they were growing old?

Guruji : possibly. Devatas are actually born like that after a person died here: if his karmas are extremely good – he take birth as a devata or something like that. But they number is fixed, because they are considered as a sons of Kashyap rishi. Human beings just become ghost: I’ve never heard somebody become a devata.

Q : are devatas permanent or they are changing also?

Guruji : some are permanent – like devatas, who represents the elements; they are permanent. Others may change.

Q : how we can become devatas?

Guruji : by some great deeds or some great yagyas or something like that. Ashwamedha yagya was the main idea to become one of the gods in ancient times – 1000000 Ashwamedha yagyas. Nowadays nobody is doing that. Last Ashwamedha yagya was done by king of Jaipur or somewhere – but the horse never cross the borders of his kingdom, so that was successful. That was the last record. Probably it was in Jaipur.

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GREED

Soma, amrita, and the childless devatas

Q : what do You think: tradition of soma sacrifice was also ended with Daksha yagya?

Guruji : when the rishi disappeared – nobody left who actually know how to create it, to find it. The herb must still be there.

Q : what about amrita – it was also made from soma?

Guruji : no, there is something different, coming from the ocean.

Q : what happen with that amrita from the ocean?

Guruji : nobody knows. It must be still somewhere in heaven.

Q : is it possible now for a human spirit to take a birth as a devata or asura or any other creature?

Guruji : anything is possible. But the Devi Parvati cursed all the devatas that you will remain childless; so that option is gone.

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Kutastha

Nandi and Hanuman: two characters, Skanda purana incarnation, Rama as Shiva

Nandi,Hanuman

Somehow the character of Nandi – son of Shilag rishi – become a very mysterious thing. Most of the serial-makers are combining 2 different characters. Bull’s name is also Nandi, but he is son of Kamadhenu, Surabhi. And Nandikeshwar looks like monkey, he has monkey face and he is the chief gan of Shiva. I’ve never seen a portrait or even in a movie – his character is missing absolutely.

how you can recognize the difference between Hanuman and Nandi if both of them has the powerful body and monkey’s face?

Guruji: it is written that Nandi incarnated as Hanuman – in the first chapter of Skanda purana. They look more or less the same. And another understanding comes many years before: if Hanuman is incarnation of Nandi and Rama is Parabrahman Parameshwar: then Parabrahman Parameshwar must be Shiva, because Nandi was never go to another one. It stand to reason.

but there must be eight incarnation of Vishnu and if Rama is Shiva – one incarnation is missed?

Guruji: there is always some confusion when different sects becoming powerful. They change the history which is not suits them.

God is an imaginary friend of grown-ups. It’s from some movie.

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Kutastha

Vishnu as assumed sustainer; Bhumapurush and the hair story

Vishnu take the duty to care of this world?

Guruji: actually nobody give it to him. It is assumed, that he is sustainer.

but before him – world lived somehow, existed somehow?

Guruji: when Vishnu opened his eyes – there was only water. It’s complicated program. I can tell you that he also have grey hairs. When some rishis went to see him – his name was Bhumapurush – he took one black hair from him and it became Krishna and he took one grey hair – it became Balarama. It’s story from some Vishnu puranas.

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KĀL BHAIRAVA AND THE FIFTH HEAD OF BRAHMĀ

Hanuman Ji manojavam — speed of the mind

HANUMAN JI MANOJAVAM (SPEED OF THE MIND)

With all my respect to Hanuman Ji, as we were speaking of it, the speed of light is nothing. I think that, moving at the speed of the mind, being somewhere instantly is the name of the game.

Hanuman Ji is described as “manojavam,” which means he can travel at the speed of thought or the mind. His force is much, much greater than that of a great cyclone; the air element is so powerful. And he is the son of Vayu, and he is the wisest among wise beings. That is how Hanuman Ji is described.

So, the speed of the mind is described so much in Hinduism. Remember that!

Sometimes people say: “He appeared before me, and then, after we talked, he disappeared.” He did not disappear; he simply went somewhere at the speed of the mind. And our eyes are not sensitive enough to catch his movement. That is how he appeared: he came at the speed of thought. That is the phenomenon of appearing and disappearing.

If you are moving faster than light, you will become invisible, because light does not have enough time to reflect from you.

Once upon a time, the fastest means of travel was horseback riding. How could even the most skilled rider move faster than his horse? In the same way, we cannot suddenly imagine someone travelling at the speed of thought.

We need to be educated just to begin to understand it. That is why education is important. Every advancement in science has made our imagination dmore powerful. We are starting to imagine immensity.

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LOVE IS FOR THE WISE

Personification of deities

PERSONIFICATION OF DEITIES

I feel very strong vibration even after doing Guru Pranam; should I take a pause then?

Guruji: feel it – and only for few moments you can, then do.

it exists some recommendations for the job activities or business activities for the yogi? Maybe some things are prohibited?

Guruji: business is business: do whatever you want. Only recommendation is practice very regularly.

I read Your preface to Bhagavad Gita that Vishnu represents the space or Void, Shiva Ji represents the Time; so that gods – they are real higher beings? Or they are just symbols of space and matter?

Guruji: space and matter also have a deity. As a human form they are representing that. They are there.

when they are depicted in more or less human-like shape: it is just for better understanding for the people?

Guruji: no, they are described exactly, as they are. And god created man as his god’s image. We are their image, we’re not our image.

it’s not vice versa – that we created gods by our imagination?

Guruji: we’re not that great. And gambling is mentioned in Gita – so gambling is recommended(smiling)

if Brahma is the personification of the matter, Vishnu – of the Void; so where is Krishna here?

Guruji: Time himself was talking through him. He was incarnation of Kali – as two books tells us.

so he is Shakti and through him Time is talking? Through the Void the Time is talking?

Guruji: it looks like it.

Shakti and Kali – it’s one and the same?

Guruji: yes

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Mantras, nadis and the subtle body

Time as the basis; devatas, Ishwar and Bhagavan

from the yogic point of view – Time is one god?

Guruji: Time is the basis of everything; everything came out of Time and to the Time it shall return one day.

what is the difference between Time and gods?

Guruji: gods are devatas. For hindus Shiva is the embodiment of Time. For Shiva we had the word Ishwar – we can not translate it as god. Then for Vishnu and Shri Krishna we have the word Bhagavan – you simply can not translate Bhagavan as god. And there are heavenly devatas – they are called gods. From language point of view devata is god. But there is no synonym in English language to Ishwar and Bhagavan. We need to understand it.

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MOTIVE PRIMARILY

Raja Bali's current power, globalization, the seven rishis

how they are connected with raja Bali?

Guruji: raja Bali was to rule – and he donated all three worlds. Now he’s occupying the seat of Indra and also he’s the ruler of all netherworlds.

He maybe the most powerful being now – politically, spiritually and physically. Vashishtha always gave him good suggestions. I think all nowadays processes – like globalization and legally equal rights – are only because of raja Bali. Now legally we all are equal.

Vashishtha, Vishwamitra and raja Bali – they are all in the same game?

Guruji: now Vashishtha is not among the seven rishis, he’s gone beyond that. Nowadays – Ashwatthaman, Kripacharya, Parashurama, Gholav rishi, Markandeya are seven rishis.

every rishi has his own team?

Guruji: definitely – every rishi has his own disciples and followers. History is very complicated. Maybe the word hysteria – like mental disease – started from studying too much history.

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Ojas, tejas & prana.

Who created Yahweh — earth spirit, Bhairav and Shiva's game

I’m still interested – who created Yahweh and for what?

Guruji: he’s an earth spirit. Earth-bound spirit. He also could be some form of Bhairav.

why do you think so?

Guruji: you know – India is India. I’ve come across certain methods when you go through sheep and goats and shepherds; and when you do the certain ritual – you can see Bhairav siting among them. And then there is a method to make contact – he will grant you some wishes and tell you conditions that you worship him. This is how it is started with judes.

so all of it is just a part of the game?

Guruji: I think this game is from Shiva, because he eliminated the vedic culture step by step. So coming of Christianity, islam and Judaism maybe part of it. Step by step vedic culture is gone. I’m happy vedic culture is gone – otherwise I’ve melting lead in your ears. You should be even more happy than me.

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PITRI TARPANA

New puranas later - raja Bali and the post-Mahabharata shuffle

now if the new system appear – some new purana must appear, to describe it?

Guruji: they will come later, too early for them. Now Indra is raja Bali, it is described in Vishnu purana. With old Indra Yamaraj was there and all his work was there; now who has been appointed to his place – nobody knows. There was a big shuffle and changing after Mahabharata, after Krishna. We’re still inquiring so many spirits, what’s happening. But more and more spirits are on the Earth.

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PRAKRITI, PURUSH, GUNAS.

Hare Krishn — Krishna as Kali incarnation, Shiva and Shakti, and the krishnaits

HARE KRISHN

You’re saying, that Krishna is Kali incarnation?

Guruji: I’m nit saying – I read this in two Bhagavatas: Shrimad Bhagavatam, Devi Bhagavatam and Maha Bhagavatam – in two out of three it is mentioned. I’m quoting from there.

could we say that all playings of Krishna and Radha here are play of Shiva and Shakti?

Guruji: it looks like it – every female is a sort of Shakti and every male is like Shiva. It will boost the ego of every durak, but the maleness and male is from Shiva and the femaleness and female is from Shakti. Very simple to understand.

if it’s such great play of Shiva and Shakti – why You have so low attitude to people, who are krishnaits?

Guruji: I’m nothing with them; because of their attitude this reaction developed. I have nothing against them – but every westerner, who becomes the member of ISCON claims that they are superior and everyone else are just bastards, don’t recognizing their greatness – I’ve been exposed for such people in nearly 30 years.

I like to stay away from them.

We are born Indians, Krishna is our god, we all love him, we all are devoted to him ;

but if someone is coming and starting to say that you’re no one and we’re superior to you because we’re followers of Krishna – that I don’t like. We don’t need westerner to tell us thing. We don’t need any showrooms, temples and events managed to tell us – that is devotion. For us it’s not impressive.

You must remember that famous joke, when one local man and one krishnait die and come to Krishna. I have nothing against them if they don’t cross my pass. If you really devotee – read and think, go to the grassroots’ level – then you will discover something.

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RICH PEOPLE

The Hanumanji story — the taniwala (Master) and the father's testimony

HANUMANJI STORY

When I was in college – it happen way back in 1974-75. I had one friend: his name was Lalmani Sharma. His father was a retired army officer, not commissioned officer. We were very good friends, we talk for hours – and he told me that his father saw Hanumanji face to face; - which was the very curious thing for me so I insisted – I would like to visit your father, please take us. I went his home for the first time, which was about 15 km cycling from college there. I saw his father; he was retired and his eyesight was extremely weak: he wear the very thick glasses and even then used to come very near to recognizing. He was very happy to see me and I asked him, what happened – then the very fantastic story came.

He was serving in Sagar – city in the central India, Madhya Pradesh; and it’s very hilly area – whole city is hilly. He was serving there in the army and there was one horse carrying man, which he call Tala. He will come to bring children to a school and then bring them back home – this is normal practice in some areas of India. He was the horse carrier, driver. Everybody will call him “Master”, it was his nickname. He was the very great devotee of Hanuman. And my friend’s father was the very great critic of devotion and all the Indian gods; so when he just bring children home – he will offer him chai and telling for one or two hours that you’re idiot, you’re worshipping monkey, and this, and that, etc. And horse carrier driver just was listen very peacefully, drink one or two cup of chai and if they give him biscuit he just take it and say “ok”. It continues for nearly 2 years. Every day he was criticizing – even a critic needs an audience, where he can just let go; and everybody was listen and say – wow, he’s such a great person. Then the time for his transfer was coming, he was transferred to serve in another place. Then this taniwala( horse carrying driver) asked him: sir, you have been criticizing my devata for continuously two years; if you see him – will you believe, that they are there? Again he said – it’s not possible, it’s just a play of imagination. Then the Master (taniwala) said: on this day( it was full moon day or something like that) you please come with us. It was very remote place of that area, there will be two other devotees – they have some problem and I will invoke Hanumanji; if he will come – you will see. But it’s one condition: you will remain absolutely silent, without saying a single word. He took it extremely lightly, like a joke. On the promised day they went there; there was nearly 11 kgs of sweets and so many flowers and some other things. When they reached this remote place – it was heavy – he put some cow dung in square then above made some chowkpurna – with flour and some colors he create something. Then he put the sweets and flowers and everything and then said: now you sit quietly, I will invoke Hanumanji. And he was not using the name “Hanumanji”, he called him Dada – which means elder brother in hindi. He invoked; maybe for half an hour they were sitting quietly – then the big flash of light appeared and Hanumanji appeared out of it in the place he created.

Then I asked him even more: how he was looking?

He said that he appeared very shapely like a man, taller than 6,5 feet, but it was all light – I was unable to see the features, it was the being of light. His gada (mace) he was carrying in one hand and I couldn’t see his tail, because he was facing us. Then He asked taniwala: what do you want? And he said: Dada, I’m very sorry to invoke you to make you problem; but these devotees have some great problems. Then He asked: what problems? He said – one of the child is mentally retarded since birth. And another devotee – he was childless. These problems was told and Hanumanji said: from today, this moment, the child will begin to improve. And he will have two children, two offsprings.

I asked him: how His voice was sounding?

And he gave the very peculiar example: that you put the bucket on your head then you speak inside – so surround sound was equal from everywhere – like this His voice was sound. And it was impossible to tell whether it is a male’s voice or a woman’s voice. By then he has convinced that it is the fake thing and it was done just to impress him. he said: I have a question! If such powerful devatas like you are here – then why world is suffering so much? And he received the answer; Hanumanji said that: we never interfere, people receive the results of their karma – we never interfere in their karma. Till then taniwala said him to sit quiet. Then he thanked Hanumanji: Dada, I thank you very much because you took trouble to came here. Please continue your grace on us and bless us and when I will call – please, grace me again. Hanumanji simply disappeared; there was a supersonic sound – like high velocity of the wind – then sweets disappeared, flowers disappeared and Hanumanji disappeared.

But the father of my friend, army man, was not convinced – next day he came with high glasses, like Sherlock Holmes – but he found nothing. Then he was transferred; but after he spoke without any permission – his eyes begin to go bad. He was retired from army because his eyesight become so weak that he couldn’t see even with the very thick glasses. Then maybe after 5 years of his retirement – he go back to the city and asked about that taniwala. He was dead then; and he inquires about those two people: his son was improving dramatically, almost normal, and other devotee has two children. It’s a true story. He almost lost his eyes. Maybe the power was too much or by speaking he broke some protocol – because he was told not to say anything, but he said. Anyway – he was lucky enough to see Him. but imagine, how close relationship must have that taniwala with Hanumanji to call him the elder brother, Dada; and by his invocation He appeared. He was simple horse carrying man.

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RUDRA YAMALA TANTRA(continuation)

Kashyapa's children; lingams in the chakras

gods come from different planets?

Guruji: no, most of them are children of Kashyapa rishi. Maybe from different dimensions, but Kashyapa rishi is the father of them. But not Brahma; Vishnu is considered as his son. And nobody knows about Shiva. Swayambhu – he created himself.

In every chakra is swayambhu lingam, and they are reflection of Shiva, who is in your sahasrara. Because in five chakras - there is form of Rudra there. Rudra, Ishwara Rudra, Sadashiva and Shiva; then inside sahasrara there is Paramashiva.

but chakras must be developed?

Guruji: only after development you will become aware of it. They represent five elements also, and five elements are also describe as having persona: if they are the persons – there must be jiva inside them and jiva is Shiva. Five elements are eternal, but they carry atma itself. Its big combination.

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SENIOR AND YOUNGER IMMORTAL

Mahakal, Hanuman Ji and the other side of life

Mahakal is Shiva himself?

Guruji: he is one of the chief ganas of Shiva. Eight main ganas are there – they called the chiefs of ganas; Mahakal is one of them. He came down to talk with me in 1997. Hanuman Ji contacted with me at December 1995. Then a very different chapter begin. This is one thing – to remain devotee of Hanuman god or to discuss philosophy – the latter is the easiest thing in the world to do – but the direct knowledge of the other side of life is extremely important.

I will thank Balaji for this – he opened my eyes for so many different things which devotee or normal man will never be aware of. Everybody is going to enter other side of life one day – so it is better to have good friends on the other side. Hanuman Ji expanded my consciousness about other side so much. I’ve never heard that other god or person allow someone to put his photograph in such place beside him on the equal footage. I’m grateful so much. It was his idea – that my photograph should be put there. I was feeling very strange at the beginning. They methods are so complicated – nothing happens automatically.

could the spirit be absolutely neutral for the person?

Guruji: I’ve never see the person who is absolutely neutral – so spirits are also not neutral.

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SENIOR AND YOUNGER IMMORTAL

Incarnations, immortals and the Taoists

YOU’LL NEVER SEE A TIDE A CUP OF COFFEE

were Krishna and Gautama Buddha the incarnations of Vishnu?

Guruji: about Krishna – it’s very debatable point, but Buddha definitely was the incarnation of Vishnu.

could we say if the person remembers his previous births – he is the incarnation of some god?

Guruji: no. let’s say – he is realized person. Such incarnations happens only for the special purpose, to do something very big, - which ordinary person cannot do. The incarnations of Shiva remains immortal.

does it mean that all immortals are the incarnations of Shiva?

Guruji: no.

it exists some examples of immortality besides India?

Guruji: many Taoists masters were lived for centuries. They also were practicing some form of yoga. Lao Tzu was talking about the way – and I’m talking about the wayfarer. But you should read his thoughts about tao in original – English translation is not so good. You can spend all your life describing the way – but you need to go for it, you need to walk on the way. Then what you will face – that’s what we’re talking about.

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SHAILENDRA SHARMA MAKING THIS STATEMENT FOR THE FIRST TIME

Ishwar is a source itself; where prana comes from

Guruji : And Ishwar is also inside you. I’m starting a new discussion.

But spirit has a direct connection to the source?

Guruji: They are here and there all the time, yes.

And Ishwar is a part of the source?

Guruji: Ishwar is a source itself.

But spirit is from another dimension?

Guruji: Nobody knows exactly: no religion writes about it.

But prana came from another dimension?

Guruji: like Shiva, yes: nobody knows from where. That’s why he is called Svayambhu, self-created. Matsyendranath said the best: from where prana comes? Avagati brings prana: knowing brings prana. It’s a very complicated answer.

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SHORT STATEMENTS

Mumba Devi; democracy and Vishnu; raja Bali's donation

who was Mumba Devi?

Guruji: one aspect of Shakti – she may be a powerful deity.

democratic system is the system against Vishnu?

Guruji: yes, we can say that. He’s gone now. He’s staying in Sutala, in the Netherworld. My parampara says: never accept land as donation. Vishnu get all three worlds from raja Bali – and that’s it, end of story.

so he wanted to cheat raja Bali, but…

Guruji: yes, something has happened. Nobody digest the donation of the land.

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SIN; ENJOYMENT VS SUFFERING;

Vishnu the limitless, the void, and democracy inheriting the Earth

why in Bhagavad Gita Vishnu is considered as consciousness of the void?

Guruji: the word “Vishnu” literally translated from Sanskrit point of view – it means limitless. And void is limitless. But we have given the particular form to it, which is Vishnu.

That is the problem: the religious is overlapping the spiritual. That is the tragedy for us.

Shiva created Vishnu from his right arm, it is written in Shiva Purana. There also was a clash: he was a chief of Golok, Gopal – but he became too heavy with the power and he also wanted to marry Sati, then Parvati also – and the big clash happen. He lost, and instead of Vishnu Krishna was made Gopal. That is the real truth. Now he is occupying the post of Gopal and he replaced Vishnu. In recent time I’ve not seen anyone, directly worshipping Vishnu. They are worshipping Rama or Krishna.

And another point: every king was considered as the embodiment of Vishnu – nowadays no kings, only democracy. His era is over, finally. Yesterday a thought came to me, that even in bible democracy is mentioned.

where?

Guruji: everybody knows this sentence, but they never connect it. Blessed are meek, for they shall inherit the kingdom of Earth. It’s not said that warriors and kings will inherit the kingdom of Earth. Meek means general public. Democracy is ruling and now they have inherit the kingdom of Earth.

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SPIRIT & MAGIC.

Different spirits, god as a powerful spirit, Yahweh among shepherds, worship increases power

the spirits have different origins; can we say that they have different power?

Guruji: they have different abilities.

what is holy spirit? Or the spirit of god?

Guruji: I would like to know from Christians, who is the holy ghost?

I want to know – does the gods have spirits?

Guruji: god is just a powerful spirit.

can one spirit evolve to another level?

Guruji: yes, they can do that. I’ve identified Yahweh – the jewish god. I’m spiritual man, you know. In India there are even some rituals to invoke that particular spirit. Only with shepherds it moves. Who are carrying sheeps and goats – it’s connected directly with that. That particular spirit, which you called the holy ghost or Yahweh is moving among sheep, goats and shepherds.

he is looking also like sheep or goat?

Guruji: no, he’s different looking person. Powerful spirits have very different motives. And every spirit likes to be worshipped. It increases their power, maybe even their living. They also want to live peacefully.

does some spirits have the limits?

Guruji: yes.

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TEST FROM MATSYENDRANATH

Hanuman untold — part 1, Ramayana

HANUMAN UNTOLD – PART1 RAMAYANA

So many versions of Ramayana exists; but I advise you to read Valmiki Ramayana – because Sita herself lived in the ashram of Valmiki and delivered twins there. Whatever Valmiki will be writing must be most authentic.

is it true that Hanuman mother was apsara?

Guruji: that is true – she was apsara then was cursed and became a monkey but had a power to change herself into human form – that monkeys were superbeings. She was married to Kesari – then Rudra avatar came to be.

he was born immortal?

Guruji: all Rudra avatars supposed to be immortal.

what is his form of Balaji?

Guruji: it’s the most common name for Hanuman in Rajasthan.

who is considered as father of Hanuman – Shiva or Vayu?

Guruji: they are foster fathers; the legal father is Kesari. He is called Kesarinandan – the son of Kesari.

In India children’s day is celebrated in 14 th of November – and it’s exactly 9 months from Valentine’s day. Natural outcome of Valentine’s day – if the roses were accepted(laughing)

in Shiva Purana is described to have the kundals from 6 rudrakshas – how it is possible?

Guruji: it must be 6-faced rudraksha. There different types of kundals are described. Most of them are like mine, but some of them also like Gorakhnath kundals – that is the impact of the time.

how that great race of monkeys disappeared, the whole race?

Guruji: you can find the references of some scientists that about 1 billion years before there was the race of big monkeys, their body weight was about 500 kilos, they were giants – 3-4-5 meters tall and they were living in harmony with the human beings then somehow disappeared. The time frame exactly coincides with treta yuga, time of Ramayana. They were not ordinary monkeys – they were superbeings, someone of them has able to fly, jump a long distances – they were like demi-gods. Another great race were bears.

and what happened to them?

Guruji: they were still surviving till then – maybe even today they are living hiding.

they are like shape-shifters?

Guruji: this power must be with them. Were-bears – like werewolves. Monkeys were able to change their appearance also. One day my monkey bite me – then I was afraid for many days to become a monkey(laughing)

they have high level of consciousness?

Guruji: even our monkeys roaming around – scientists are saying that they have mathematical calculation abilities 20 times more than a man. That maybe the future for any mathematician – he will go naked if he will go to deep into maths. So be careful when you begin to study maths.

could animals practice yoga?

Guruji: they never asked for practice; only human beings ask – so they practice.

why Hanuman Ji is connected with spirits or ghosts?

Guruji: he is the son of Vayu; all people has vayu sharira – he commands them. But why he’s introducing me – it remains a mystery. He simply says: “you will discover in time”. He is described like the essence of the beauty – he is so beautiful as 1 billion cupids. When he appears himself – he always keeping back towards you, never shows his face; people hearts will burst, simple could not tolerate the beauty. Or he will appear as an old man.

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TIP OF THE ICEBERG

Ancient activation denied; the Brahma and Shiva clash

was it possible in very ancient times that people were born with their mind 100% activated?

Guruji: never happened this way

why Brahma didn’t create such a great persons?

Guruji: that was the main reason in the clash with Shiva and Brahma. Shiva created the immortal beings and Brahma never created them.

Brahma likes the company of stupid fools?

Guruji: he wanted to be charged all the time. The main difference between hindu religion and others religions: hindus are not worshipping the creator. Every other religion worshipping the creator. It’s major difference. You cannot worship a person who made so many mistakes in the creation.

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TO BE PURE ENERGY

Ganesh, Adi Shakti, ubtan and the earth element

GANESH IS

THE PROTECTOR OF THE MOTHER EARTH

what do You think – Ganesha was the great warrior?

Guruji: he was created by Adi Shakti, with

ubtan – before soap it is used; let’s take Earth as Adi Shakti – she’s Adi

Shakti for us, and she created Ganesh, her protective force. Even in muladhar

chakra, which represents earth element, Ganesh supposed to be the presiding

deity of that. So Ganesh is the protector of the earth element.

So when

Ganesh is good – everything is coming from Earth: your wealth, your food, your

shelter, everything whatever you desire. If Ganesh is putting a good word for

you – then Adi Shakti will support.

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TO BE PURE ENERGY

Obstacles, the elephant head and karma memory

but Ganesh creates the obstacles for the people?

Guruji: he is guarding the Mother Earth;

she created him and put him on guard to let no one enter. And see – if someone

is running only after earth resources – he will create obstacles until unless

she gives her consent to it.

why Shiva Ji gave him elephant head instead of human one?

Guruji: because elephants supposed to have

the great memory. If you will slap elephant child he will remember that slap

till he will dead. One day he will take revenge. So all karma of all people

Ganesh remembers. Whoever is doing harm to the Mother – he remembers and

punishes. Earth is a living being, you simply cannot survive without her.

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Village wisdom and accounts of siddhas

Pushan, Savitar, and the eight vasus under the Earth

again about Daksha yagya: who was Pushan?

Guruji: one of the vedic gods, connected with sun. Pushan, Savitar were controlling so many things – and they were given big beaten there. They worshipped stopped after that.

and what about 8 vasu: they were worshipped before vedic gods?

Guruji: I think they continue to be worshipped, because Bhishma Pitamah was incarnation of one vasus and they actually take care of the Earth, looks after the Earth. That’s why earth also is called Vasudha – belonging to the vasus. Bhishma was most mighty warrior of that time. Vasu control eight directions.

why only 8 and not 10?

Guruji: above and below are not on Earth, and directions are belonging to earth.

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The body as clothing for the spirit

Brahma, Hanuman, creations and worship of humans

who invented the vedic culture?

Guruji: Brahma, the creator. When Brahma came into being – he close his eyes and remembered. Now Hanuman is in the place of Brahma. Let’s hope it’s going to be permanent now.

you said Brahma remembered all past creations?

Guruji: it means now all past creations had been erased and new system is coming.

if he remembered past creations – they must somehow had their end: how it was?

Guruji: Shiva dances.

every creation has the limits – it exists something beyond the limits?

Guruji: what is beyond your limits? Another people. Beyond this limitation of this creation maybe more creation. One thing I have noticing: now the spirituality and worshipping heavenly gods disappeared and human beings are worshipped now. It has never happen before. Rama was human incarnation, Krishna was human incarnation – from Rama to Shirdi Sai Baba all are human beings. This type of things were never ever recorded before. I think it’s king’s Bali’s work and Shiva’s grace that human beings are actually evolving to that level.

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Avatars and spiritual attainment

Instagram clip: avatars — Vishnu's come with a purpose and depart, all of Shiva's are immortal — in badly garbled captions

The original of Dutra Shiva and the Tatri. The Tatri. They are considered as the primal of Dutras. They have raised the highest of the highest of the spiritual status which we cannot even remember. Avatar is some divine spirit who comes down for a certain purpose to fulfill our planet or whatever it may be. So we have a great list of Vishnans avtars. Yes. They have come down to remove the burden on earth, also they have come down to give great wisdom to earthlings. And there is a list of Shiva Jatars and Shupra. But the only difference between Vishnu Jatars and Shiva Jatars, all Shiva Jatars are immortal.

Vishnu Jatars only, I think, Parashram is considered as immortal. and eat. They have a very specific purpose to culture on the planet earth and then they disappear after. Abdudh, if you are, let's say, too much into spirituality and maybe someday you will be the highest of the highest of the highest whatever is there, you will also become an atheist. Also, 24 Tirthankars of Jainism, they were also considered as a dhukas. So, what we can say is the state.

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Tao Te Ching — The Yogic Way

Tao Te Ching — Discussion 9: Cosmic Breath of Time — Vishnu's dream and Brahma's lotus

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Tao Te Ching — Discussion 11: Evolve to Dissolve — The Leela is the silence expressed

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The End of Vedic Times

The End of Vedic Times

Q: “Guruji, we see that the human condition in society degrades and then evolves over time. But it seems to develop on its own. What is the role of gods in that?”

Guruji: “Gods don’t have a role to play in that.”

Q: “Then why worship them?”

Guruji: “Who does that anymore? Vedic gods are no longer worshiped. Indra, who was the foremost deity of vedas, is mocked by even children today. His tenure is already over, and King Bali has taken over.

“It feels like the new administration is going to be permanent. King Bali is the emperor of the Netherworld, and now he’s also the ruler of Heaven. The earlier Indra only had dominion over the heaven. Second, king Bali is already immortal, and Vishnu is his gatekeeper, since after giving all the three worlds to Vishnu, King Bali earned so much merit that Vishnu had no choice! That’s why Vishnu is no longer worshiped either – he’s been replaced by Rama and Krisha.

“The change is quite evident. Vedic rituals are disappearing, Indra’s worship is over, and Krisha established Goverdhan puja after defeating Indra. Bali puja and Goverdhan puja fall on the same day; they might be one and the same. Vedic dharma has now become Hindu dharma – we are being identified as Hindus. Vedic gods have disappeared, Indra was castigated, Vishnu ran away, and new gods have emerged. Only the eternal gods [aadi-dev] have survived – Shiva and Shakti. Krishna and Rama are getting worshiped, and Goverdhan has its own place in India.

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Immortality objection and social inference

Q: “But Guruji, the gods were already immortal. How could they disappear?”

Guruji: “They must be leading a retired life somewhere. The main thing, they are not in power anymore, they don’t have any control. King Bali became immortal even without drinking ambrosia. How could the other gods have faced him then? Shiva-ji also never drank ambrosia, but He is Mahadeva.

“Brahma was the first vedic god. He has no temples anymore. Second was Vishnu, but he is also left with a very few temples in India – he’s been replaced by Rama and Krishna. Rudra was the main deity and He still remains. He is the only one with the power of destruction.

“After that, we have Savita, Mitra (Indra), and Varuna as the foremost gods in vedas which are nowhere to be found. So the tenure of these 5 gods is over. Only Rudra has remained. But even He is now known as Shiva. Nobody says Rudra anymore, except in case of Shiva-ji’s puja which is called Rudrabhishek.

“It’s a clear changeover. And since king Bali has dominion over the three worlds, he must have done something that all races are coming together. Foreigners, who were once considered untouchables, are being accepted everywhere, and followers of vedas, who always considered themselves superiors, are living the most dejected lives these days. Even a sweeper is better off than them. Those who are reciting “Rama Rama” or those reading Bhagvat and Gita have reached the top. All this data proves that change has taken place.

“Tantra influence has increased as well. The ten Mahavidhyas and other tantric knowledge given by Shiva are more popular than vedas these days. It means a new type of program has started already.

“Besides, all the foreign invasions in India fundamentally destroyed vedic culture only. Adi Sankaracharya denied vedas and propagated vedanta [literally “end of Veda”]. What could they do to yogis? Nothing!

Also, nobody does rituals for gods anymore. No more singing praises of Indra’s glory! In my opinion, the kind of punishments he has received no one has ever had. Like when he violated Gautam rishi’s wife, the rishi cursed him, ‘you are going crazy after vaginas, you yourself will grow 1000 vaginas!’. He’s the only one in the entire history to have 1000 vaginas! That’s how he got the name Sahastrabhaga.

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Kubera and convergence

Q: “and what about Kubera?”

Guruji: “He’s a friend of Shiva-ji. His Alkapuri is right next to Kailash. Also, see, Lakshmi-ji used to grant prosperity; now that department belongs to Kubera. Even in front of our Reserve Bank there’s a status of Kubera.

“Once upon a time puranas were considered secondary after vedas, but now the roles have reversed. Upanishads are still being read since they don’t have anything abour vedas, and they don’t have any reference to Indra. All things related to Indra and vedic gods have disappeared. That means, King Bali has taken over. This also means there’ll be some state of filtering and weeding out of people, and then all races will come together.

“Until know there has been constant conflict between suras and asuras. Veda-followers always thoughts themselves as superiors. King Bali has proven that vedic people are not superior by getting then beaten by once-untouchable foreigners. And see, after they beat vedic people, they are now running after our spiritual knowledge – yoga, tantra, aghora.

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Govardhan/Bali and worship revenue

“Also the reasoning behind our belief that King Bali and Goverdhan are one and the same is that Krishna defeated Indra and established Goverdhan worship. Before him, no avatar opposed Indra. He was the only one, and He beat Indra not only once but three times! There’s a famous line in Gita:

To destroy evil-doers and to establish dharma, I appear time and again in every age.

He established dharma by starting Goverdhan worship and putting an end to Indra’s worship. And the end of worship for a god means the end of him, because all means of his ‘tax revenue’ are gone! Just like kings survive on taxes, gods survive on worships.”

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HIERARCHY of GODS

Q: from where this hierarchy came – they talk that Ashwatthaman will become Vyasa etc?

Guruji: we came across Vishnu purana; there is a chapter in Vishnu purana – even it supposed to be vaishnav purana but they are giving the list of previous Vyasas who was in previous manavantaras and Ashwatthaman is going to be the next Vyasa; king Bali of Patala will become Indra and the names of new seven rishis are also given. That means that every time they are not permanent people. They keep changing – but we don’t know, what is the time frame for them to change.

Q: and who is appointing them to this career?

Guruji: this is not mentioned anywhere.

Q: Vishnu purana doesn’t give the specific timing for that?

Guruji: no; they say in future Ashwatthaman will be Vyasa; and Ashwatthaman is very important because he’s going one of the 7 rishis also. 7 rishis are: Ashwatthaman, Kripacharya, Parashurama, Krishna Dwaypayana Vyasa, Markandeya, Galava and Vishwamitra.

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Q: what is the relationships now between devatas and humans?

Guruji: now no vedic god is being worshipped, different gods are taking over. Rama and Krishna in human incarnations of divinity – they are being worshipped, Shiva, Hanuman and Shakti are worshipped. Actually it is like paying respect to them – they are not exactly surviving on our worshipping.

Q: so the grace of gods can still be on human individual?

Guruji: it’s even more nowadays.

Q: to whom they would listen, who will be in favor?

Guruji: he must be good as a person and do some things to develop himself or herself; because if you’re developing yourself – you’re the part of the society, so indirectly society is also getting developed. And a good person will have the effect on others – like a bad person will have the effect also.

Q: so nothing changes in old times?

Guruji: no, many things: you’re not depending on gods now. So much.

Q: why people bother to ask them additional benefits – if you’re not depending now?

Guruji: I think nowadays nobody asking much.

Q: what is the connection then?

Guruji: we’re becoming self-sufficient; the presence of god is required to tell us – there is more life that we experience here. After death life continues. And after death there are no business, no making money, no bank account. Simply by developing your mind you’re preparing for that reality.

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