Tantras and the Vedas

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I don’t remember exactly – it’s urdu share, but the sense is this: don’t smile at my scattered pieces; I scattered after I fell down – don’t smile on them: try to appreciate the height, from where I have fell.

many-many-many became famous trying to give me a bad name.

Our goal is to achieve fame – even if you become infamous- you will be famous.

I keep wondering from my very early school days: why the space man – Russian and American – wy they are called “nauts”? I mean cosmonauts and astronauts? Then one day I’ve realized that only nut will think of going in outer space. Maybe it’s a good name for them.

WHO IS EATING THE FLESH OF THE COW AND DRINKING...

in Kularnava tantra it is said that kaula is superior than every path? Where is yoga practice in that?

Guruji: kaula is yoga practice. Kaula means who is kuleen – the pathway of the kuleen. If you remember Hatha Yoga Pradipika – who is eating the flesh of the cow and drinking – only he is kuleen. He is in kaula and that is kaula marga.

it is said that kaula is superior than siddhanta – what is siddhanta here?

Guruji: siddhanta means the siddhas what are share their experience; the conclusion from siddhas.

from Shadamnaya tantra: Shakti is wine, Shiva is meat – why?

Guruji: khechari mudra. If you look at the MRI of khechari – the tongue looks like Shivalingam, crescent moon forms and the wine comes. Abhishek happens.

RUDRA YAMALA TANTRA

and what is bhava?

Guruji: bhava means to be. Bhava means emotion and bhava means to be. And also it can be state, some incident, position and reality. There are so many meanings – heart, mind, love, affection, intention, meaning, living being, the way to express, expression of love and paranormal power.

if bhava is some kind of state of disciple: in pashu bhava – gnyana siddhi is attained, in vira bhava – kriya siddhi is attained?

Guruji: in pashu bhava means – you become absolutely natural.

how absolutely natural person could attain gnyana siddhi?

Guruji: only by becoming absolutely natural you will establish yourself in your own nature and you will have all knowledge.

this pashu somehow connected with the name of Shiva?

Guruji: yes, Pashupati – he is the lord of all Pashu. Natural state.

but after that you need to attain vira bhava?

Guruji: well, vira bhumi is the name for smashan. Only in smashan you can have vira bhava sadhana. Kriya siddhi is directly connected with that.

so you are in vira bhava?

Guruji: let’s hope. Vira means brave person. Rudra Yamala is not for beginners. They referred to some very high states, which common man can not even imagine.

from happiness the holiness and unlost vision begins; when vision is done – the auspicious lotus is seen. What exactly is this lotus?

Guruji: auspicious lotus is your heart lotus. It’s most auspicious because prana lives there, Vasudev lives there. Until unless you’re happy – that means your mind is not calm enough and not peaceful enough; happiness is the first sign of peaceful mind. Not depression.

become a yogi, he attains a subtle state, unseen even by yogis. But that state can be seen by that, who achieved the purified lotus of Mahavidya?

Guruji: I’ve already described that state – the consciousness of the Void. You can not even see Void – so how can you see the consciousness of the Void? Only the term is different.

the sound of drops of the water – what it could be?

Guruji: it’s particular type of nada.

I’ve never come across in any yogic text about such type of nada

Guruji: this is very elaborate yogic text.

so it is after all achievements from Hatha Yoga Pradipika?

Guruji: even much more deeper. When you achieve that – it’s just a preparation like getting deep – then you spend eternity in this.

… khecharatva means your mind is absolutely established in a conscious Void; and also it means the ability to fly, bodily – it’s also khecharatva.

in one month the disciple attains khecharatva without doubt?

Guruji: if you have done all previous technics – yes. Who doesn’t want to fly like Superman? Flying may give you some happiness. I will tell you one more thing: in Ayurveda they asked – what are the signs of absolute health? And definition, that Ayurveda gives – I’ve never come across much more deeper. They say – the person should be happy and not aware of his body. Because only if it is something wrong – you become aware of that part of the body. Happiness and no awareness of the body – this is the sign of absolute health person.

Gyana Sankalini Tantra

brahma chakra is most auspicious; to help of her sadhaka attains all vidyas?

Guruji: Brahma I think take it as your mind or brain. So the mind chakra, the brain inside your skull: if you’re able to activate it – you will learn everything you have to learn.

what do you think of it: Shiva chakra is the purest and giving the result of all other chakras?

Guruji: Shiva chakra is the Time inside your body.

Time is all pervading, Time is everywhere, and your body is nothing but the sentence of Time – it represents particular time thing. That time frame is called Shiva chakra. If you will use it wisely and will act accordingly – Time will bless you and give you great wisdom, whatever there is – you will get it.

if think logically, Vishnu chakra is the space?

Guruji: Vishnu chakra is about different things. Shiva chakra is your body: you can call it Kalachakra also. Body is the sentence of particular frame of Time, it’s time limit.

It’s very big confusion about the word “brahma”. For me that is a very simple thing: many books describes that you can not see it with your eyes, it sees through your eyes, you can not smell it with your nose – it smells through your nose, ears can not hear it, but it hear through the ears and they don’t give the exploring for thousands of years for brahma. It remains unseen.

As a yogi it’s very simple. Brahma means your mind: your eyes can not see your mind, but it is seeing through the eyes. Your nose can not smell your mind – but it smells through the nose. Your tongue can not talk about it, but it talk through your tongue. If you understand, that the word “brahma” is actually the mind – then everything becomes so simple. In Brahma sutras it is said, that after doing everything, learning every book, then the question come – who is learning? Then the discussion on mind begins. No matter what you do – you do it with your mind. Mind is a doer of everything and it remains unseen.

why in Brahma sutras it is said that brahma lives in the eye and in the sun?

Guruji: it lives in the eye, because only with the eyes if there is no light you can’t see anything. It is the expression of that. Sun is your solar plexus and your apana. Only with the help of apana the brahma remains inside the body. The day apana leaves it – all is over.

why the word akasha and the word prana should be understand as brahma?

Guruji: everything is brahma. Akash remains untouched and unseen, but it I there – it is a simile towards brahma. You can not see it, you can not touch it, - but it is there.

6 chakras, 16 adharas, 3 goals, 5 spaces and 12 knots on the way of three nadis: what are 3 goals here?

Guruji: knowing yourself, knowing the Creator and understanding the Creation – these are three main things.

what could be the 12 knots here?

Guruji: 12 is a common unit of time, year consists of 12 months. In India we have 6 seasons – most of the seasons are of two months. 12 is a unit of time which everybody goes through. It is connected with time. In every calendar the year consists of 12 months – no matter, lunar or solar, but it always 12. These are the knots inside time.

Jiva is Shiva – it is inside the body, and body is chakra which He lives inside.

It is very ancient believe among hindus, that when a child is inside a mother in a womb – he is as good as a yogi, because he is not breathing through his nose, he’s not eating anything, he’s like in Samadhi – he remembers most of his past lives also, and he is considered as a yogi. And when he takes birth and the cord is cut and he begins to breathe through his nose himself – then that state of mind is lost. Then he will have to work very-very hard to achieve that again. Or – very simple from my point of view – another birth and no problem, so relax( laughing).

Why the whole hindu religion based on rebirth? Our last rituals makes it sure that the person take another birth. Maybe this taking another birth is for go through this experience again and again.

GYANA SANKALINI TANTRA

delusion, anger, shame and greed are the five qualities of akasha. How such emotion states are connected with akasha?

Guruji: there are five spaces inside your body. Every emotion is connected with particular spot. That’s why we need to overcome them.

with which spot delusion is connected?

Guruji: with your chidakasha. Greed also – they describing it, I read this book thirty years back.

how this connection appeared? Someone did this?

Guruji: this is observation.

for what purpose such connection is given?

Guruji: you may know it. Without knowing how you’re planning to control it or go beyond it? They are like a guards or access to that particular shunya. These emotions are guarding it.

why delusion is here?

Guruji: delusion is the main thing - all other are rising because of it.

how delusion can be connected with space?

Guruji: the space behind your nose, which you access with your tongue. That’s why it is called brahma granthi bhed, because it will make you cross over the limit of delusion and you will begin to think much more deeply. Hridaya granthi bhed will make you to penetrate the space inside your heart: all the emotions which are guarding it - you will go beyond it and begin to dive deep into it.

Rudra Yamal Tantra

raja bhava is Brahma, sattva bhava is Hari and krodha bhava is Rudra?

Guruji: there is general consideration. Tamo guna is the basis of everything – it is dark and you’re not aware, who you are.

I think krodha bhava must be very energetic and powerful?

Guruji: if the power of krodha is used for something very high – then; otherwise if you just let it go on small things- then it’s not good. We need to understand the power of the krodha or anger and we should learn to nurse it, harness it, and then it will become a very potent force, which you can use for everything.

Brahma is like semen, Hari is like vital breath and Rudra is like a mind – three devas are gunas?

Guruji: Brahma is like a semen because it creates and raj means menstrual blood, which actually creates everything. Hari consider as sustainer – so he sustains, like a vital breath. Rudra ultimately is the mind: he is destroyer and mind is a destroyer of all ignorance.

Brahma is compassionate, Hari is pure and Rudra is fiery?

Guruji: the pure wisdom is always fiery.

GAHVARA TANTRA

Did You hear about “Gahvara tantra”?

Guruji: “Gahvara” means very secret, mysterious.

The first four forces are based on inner sound, on bindu, on creative power and on energy; and the last one – on snake piercing and on higher piercing?

Guruji: It is connected with khechari because the space inside is also called “gahvara”. Kundalini is also called snake also.

Could these two piercings be meant to be the first and second awakening?

Guruji: No, they are indicating in the direction towards something different.

Q : why Krishna in Gita is talking about three vedas?

Guruji : because Atharvaveda was creating later. It is the father of Ayurveda and maybe even tantra. In initial time only three vedas were in more fashion. Rigveda, Samaveda and Yajurveda – Atharvaveda was created much later by Atharvan rishi – there so much about herbs, medicines, tantric mantras and it might be the most interesting veda also. Find a copy and read it.

The word Shambala is connected with Kalki avatar – he will came down in the village name Shambal. He will kill all the bad people and donate all the kingdom of Earth to brahmins and then go for tapas. He will become immortal also. When we look around India – there are so many places, named Shambala. I have another theory. We have the river about 2 hours of this place – the name is Chambal. If the French man or western man read the name Chambal – he may pronounce it as Shambal. This is very mysterious area, very ferocious type of people live there – even musalmans were unable to penetrate that area. Maybe the powerful person like Kalki avatar may take birth there. It might be Chambal, not Shambal. We don’t know the origin of this name – Chambal.

how much chapters has Rudra Yamala?

Guruji: there are two volumes. But also translation must be very accurate. It often creates so much confusion.

I remember one line, even Yogananda smile on this. He’s talking about the man; that under the big roof of the sky the gods are living inside the skin. One britisher read that translation – then he made the idol of skin and then begin to worship it.

While discussing my own thoughts become very clear – and it’s good.

sadhaka must worship Kumari with wine, meat, fish and mudra?

Guruji: all our mudras are like that. Swalling your tongue is like eating flesh, and the thing coming down is like wine. All these things are connected.

and what about fish?

Guruji: fish is like your mind. I mean no fish can remain steady. All fish are always moving – like the normal mind. Eating fish is for simple making your mind steady. It doesn’t mean you catch a fish, fried and ate it.

And for us, yogis, eating fish is not a good thing, because she is considered as the mother of Matsyendranath himself, he came out of the fish. And you should learn discipline from the fish. They never come from water to kill or do some harm to you. You go into the water. They never break for discipline, so we must take the inspiration from the discipline they do. It’s very inspiring thing if you observe their discipline.

I’ve seen many Shakti worshippers, who were doing such yoni mudra – and mostly they suffer with great problems.

"But the main point is, there used to be such rituals when human sacrifices were offered. You must have heard about Ashwamedha yagya; in that, the horse used to be sacrificed at the end. Just like people today donate cows believing that after death they would cross the Vaitarni holding the cow's tail, at that time kings used to sacrifice horses believing that after they die, they'd find a horse standing there, all saddled and ready, to take them to heaven!

"There's a story in Chandogya Upanishad: There was a king named Janushruti. One day, the king was standing on the roof of his palace when some swans flew past, making sounds like 'raikva, raikva'. In sanskrit it means whatever is there is with Raikya.

"So the king searched for a Raikya and he found one Raikya sitting naked near a bullock-cart, scratching his back. When the king asked for knowledge, Raikya threw him out saying that a low-caste king didn't deserve such knowledge. The king had a daughter, about 15-16 years old, and very beautiful. The king went to Raikya again and offered his daughter to him. Raikya said, 'O king, even though you are not worthy, your daughter's beautiful face is compelling me to give you the knowledge'. And then he gave him knowledge that everything is air! But the moral of the story is that Raikya rishi got aroused by the princess and to get her, he gave the king a little bit of information.

… the vedas were seen by the rishis, they have seen all these mantras. If you just go by the language – Rudra Yamala tantra is of later time. Vedic Sanskrit is very ancient.

in Rudra Yamala tantra it is said that everything could be achieved by the vedas and the same results you could achieve by the tantras?

Guruji: if you look from absolutely objective point of view – what are vedas? They are creation of certain rishis who were powerful enough to make some spirits extraordinarily powerful and create a heaven and those gods was certain gods of rishis. It is creation by rishis – all gods were creation of rishis, because all the gods like Indra and another devas were the sons of Kashyapa rishi. So rishis were powerful enough to create a certain astral world for themselves and some spirits will be made very powerful by them - by their power of mantra, whatever that power was – so they were continue to serve the rishis. The main tragedy of everybody is that you can not live permanently in this world and they can not remain permanently in the other world. This was the thing of the rishis, they were creating the place for themselves in astral; so they were powerful enough to remain either here or there permanently. It was their decision – whether to go, whether not to go. That was the main achievement. The very-very-very big achievement. They were creating gods, they were so powerful human beings – if you can call them human beings at all. Most of them were sons of creators or descendants of creator himself.

so already immortal beings have not enough power to remain simultaneously in two worlds?

Guruji: if you are immortal – you will have it everything because you are in one place permanently. If you have even a hint of permanency or stability in your life – I mean you can expand. They were creating gods for themselves so they will be creator there. They were very powerful beings. And I feel – they are still there. They were the great experiencers – anubhavi – and they continue study the creation and humanity. Some people are saying – they are full of compassion. That also means – they must be walking among us. It is their free will.

but now seven rishis creates the different system – not vedas and tantras?

Guruji: yes, they are very different now. We will know in future. The play must go on.

is it true that Atharvaveda is generally dedicated to Mahakali and Tara?

Guruji: you can call Atharva rishi as a father of Ayurveda. He writes so much about herbs; and also he is a father of tantra as well. Very mystical program. Atharva rishi is one of the most mysterious rishi – not much is known about him, except he started Atharvaveda program. Ayurveda and tantra came out from Atharvaveda. Rigveda was the oldest one and Atharvaveda was latest, but even latest is very old. In Atharvaveda is said, that if you reach the certain level of awareness – the herb itself will tell you about yourself. The knowledge is always there, it is never lost. Just you need to aware of it.

In 7th shloka they are saying that bypass ida and pingala and concentrate on sushumna – yogically and practically means this. That means another point, that stop breathing in the time of ida and pingala and invoke sushumna. Exactly the way you do the shvasahita pranayama.

When you are control everything, when you achieve khechari, when you are taught how to do shvasahita and nabhi kriya – by the power of nabhi kriya the essence of your prana is going into your head.

Sukha mandala is sahasrara chakra, because the all pleasures are emerging from there. You see: all pleasures are here(the head), where is experience of different senses are. That is inside sahasrara.

Some things are interesting here, but some we are not support. Especially rude methods with the tongue. Babaji gave us much more sophisticated technics. And here is hardware.

Q: what does it mean “abhyasa”?

Guruji: practice. Abhyasa means the regular practice. Any practice to perfect some art is called abhyasa. When you start practice, by every day you keep refining it. The practice still become more refined and refined ,- that’s why regular practice is needed. Even this practice needs something else also. The simplement, the refinement and the most excellent practice. You keep continue to refine that. The more you will refine – the more sensitive your practice will become.

Shloka 18: they say that greatest desire is to practice that which will carry you beyond this worldly ocean. Hold on to that desire. That will make you go through. Great desire, ambition, and very regular tapas in practice; whatever Shakti you will gave by that – with that Shakti will make you cross over.

Another interesting thing: they say that the vak ( the language we talk or the way we express ourselves) – it can be of four types. First is pure thought; then the second – through the eyes you can communicate. Then third – body postures and gestures; and the final is the way we are using sounds – our vak. So, it is the downward flow of the vak. So you can go into reverse and being established in the pure thought. You see: the rope is coming down. But only this rope you can reach the top. This is what they are trying to say.

Second chapter – khechari mudra.

Now they are describing the great knowledge of khechari. By knowing a person becomes free from old age and death. Anybody, who is suffering of old age, death and diseases should make very strong decision to start practicing khechari. This khechari stops old age, death and destroys all the diseases. Any man on this Earth, knowing this khechari, who goes through understanding the essence of it and those who are practice it and those who know it – they should surrender in front of them and take them as Guru. And receive the teachings. Because this art of khechari and its practice – both are there. And you know this is a rare thing. This art of practice and melana; melana is union. Also melana means “practicing something”.

Q: what does it mean: khechari and melana don’t acts together?

Guruji: you see, all great ones… in some words: you made the simple practice but to actually achieveing khechari is rare. Melana is achievement of khechari. With great power, with great concentration, with great feeling and emotion you continue this practice in many different births; but in one birth yogi achieves khechari. Most prosperous mouth of the Guru – when the yogi receives the secret knowledge and in this practice when he becomes accomplished. By the direction of the books and knowing it from the Guru – then he achieves it. Then he goes beyond this ocean of the world and becomes liberated and becomes like Shiva.

The 10th is very important: without shastras even Guru can not teach you. And it’s very rare in the world to receive real shastras. 11th shloka is applying to all of you: the seeker should roam the Earth, move around until he gets the book and the Guru. Shastras means the original books of the art. Ancient records. Even in Gita in 16th chapter Krishna is saying that in the time of confusion only the ancient books are the real evidence, so we must follow them. Because they have been recorded by people who accomplished by very hard work, so it’s their experience, it’s their planning – out of compassion for the future generations.

Q: what about your books?

Guruji: in future they will be part of shastras. Keeping the secret(shlokas 14-15) wherever you find a Guru, who is accomplished in this divine knowledge; – go to him and learn the art of khechari and with very open mind one must practice it.

Q: connection with khechari Shakti means with Kundalini Shakti?

Guruji: more or less the same. In next shloka they describe the seed mantra for khechari in a very mysterious way. But simply by chanting this nothing going to happen. By receiving it from the Guru it becomes very well-known yoga, and all maya will be controlled and maya will not affect you even in the dream. This is something wrong here: if it could be so easy anyone can read it and do it 500 times and he will start flying in the sky, but it never happened. That means who wrote this Upanishad was not aware of art of Kriya yoga.

Only Goraksha Samhita: Gorakhnath is not describing cutting of the tongue; and you can find the things we do in Goraksha Samhita. Sometimes I think – all this yoga come down from the nath tradition. And they keep it in secret for a very long time.

Q: what is bindu?( in shloka 5th)

Guruji: bindu is the point of creation also. Bindu sometimes refer to creator also. Because from the bindu – you remember om? Bindu is the source of vibration. The unstruck sound. And when that sound vibration becomes more condense – we see the world. So this bindu is the creator. It is formless; no dimension – but it is there. Mind is bindu, mind is the creator. It is not separate from kriya(?)

The power which is in the Sun and the Moon – that causes the bondage. So you bypass them and the Shakti should be put into sushumna, and move it; then the liberation will take place. And take your prana into bindu.

Q: what is melana mantra?

Guruji: I think they describe different seed mantras, for all six – different mantras. Because next they are describing six chakras.

With your tongue inside you are moving the pot. You see – 2 ways of whipping: you are doing this( rolling the stick in your palms) in the pot; second thing – the stick is steady, you’re moving the pot. So the pot you’re moving, because it is impossible to move your tongue. The pot is moving and you keeping the tongue in the right place. So different thing will take place. You do the nectar by yourself continuously rotating.

Shloka 128: they translated amrita as urine. Simply by drinking urine if you will become immortal – then everybody can become immortal. And by doing viparita karani mudra a different type of hormonal thing will start coming down from your brain – that is amrita, not the urine.

Shloka 130: bhagavan Vishnu is the greatest of yogi, and the greatest element and the greatest of tapas.

And in shloka 131: after such a big things now they are down come back to breasts. I mean this doesn’t fit. They are describing that the person, who are going into this path and when he was sucking a breast as a baby; and after some time he is pressing them for pleasure. I don’t know why here this reference is coming. And then they go one step further than in 130. This is shocking – after such a great things they are going down to this.

Why there is so much attraction there? You were the free spirit; and at the time of sexual act of the man and the woman you were attracted to them, because it has a power, Shiva and Shakti. And then you came into the sperm through that. That means instinctively you know that through the come outs – only through that you will liberated. This is the basis of attraction, instinctively – I mean as a spirit you feel that. This is not a perversion, but the way describing it is out of place. That’s why so much about this is in tantra. This is not for just sex, this is different. Everybody knows who is father – he becomes a son, and who is the son, who becomes the father – so this circle of the world goes on and on. I think this is not important Upanishad, because here are the big things but in confusing way, then they end with this. I think now you know enough not to take it seriously.

Isha was synonym. If you look at Sanskrit dictionary, the word “isha” literally means the most prosperous woman. Next word – where the most prosperous woman lives. Who is the most prosperous woman in the entire universe? In my opinion that is Mother Earth – she is the most prosperous woman. These whole creation is the limit place of Isha – the most prosperous woman, that in my opinion is Mother Earth. So take everything from her, enjoy it, but remember – it belongs to her, not to you. That is the literal meaning.

Living like this, you should hope to live for 100 years. By thinking this, that everything belongs to the Earth, that you will enjoy it – keeping this in mind your karma will not affect you. Then there are some shlokas – the 5th one – it is an absolute description of Mother Earth. It moves, it moves not, it is far, it is near, it is within, inside it is also observe. The Earth: it moves, but here we don’t feel it moving; it is very near – we are sitting on it, but now your home is far away; and no matter how fast you move – it will always be in front of you. No matter how fast you move – Earth will always be in front of you. Combination of the five elements is Earth; we are trying to separate elements and give them names – there are near and far – but the combination is Earth. Five elements inside us and outside also. And almost in the same proportion. Earth have 71% of ocean and it’s 71% of water in you. It’s same proportion.

The 1st shloka becomes very simple, if we know that Isha is Earth. Earth is perfect; and the body of 5 elements, which have been created out of Earth, is also perfect. If you take the one perfect from the greater perfect – perfect still remain perfect.

Q: but the perfectness of the body is very limited in time?

Guruji: that’s why it perfect. What is death? Only dispersion of different elements. But they are not dyeing. They are only transform. Keep it in mind.

… in 6th: he is all beings in his own self and his own self in all beings. He does not feel any evolve by reason of such a being. Your same combination in every being, because everything is come from Earth, Isha. We are children of Earth, so is everything. Once you are actually realizing this – the whole world will become your friend. And Earth will take you accept as her own. You see: intellectual understanding is the beginning of realization. The real experience – you will be one with her. That is what I’m trying to say from so many years. When you develop your consciousness then united with the consciousness of the Earth. Than that union will take place – then everybody will be friend. Nobody hating Earth, nobody is doing anything to her, simply live on her.

And from 9th shloka to 18th – it is exactly description of Kriya yoga. They are started from the basic thing – Earth – and your connection with her. Your belongings – everything belongs to her, even you – you are nothing. So first this understanding will come – then the renunciation will take place. Then this thing.

Q: could you comment on 11th shloka?

Guruji: this is fantastic thing. Let’s start from the 9th . Those who are busy with avidya – they are already in darkness. But those who worship vidya – they enter even in greater darkness. You see: avidya and vidya – this is the very technical thing. “Avidya” – which is not present in front of you. “Vidya” – which is present in front of you. That means those, who are in avidya, -they are living in light, because that is not present in front of them. Then suddenly represent itself – they enter even greater darkness. And next shloka says: by avidya – no vidya – than that is not present – you should make an effort to know it. With empty not present; and when you will know it, and the light will appears, – you will cross over and enjoy immortality. When you will know something, which is not present, beforehand, everything about it experience – then it will represent in front. You will not be afraid. And you will cross over beyond five elements and will be immortal.

I was just enjoy the party in 1997, when people dancing and I was also enjoying it and suddenly 4th shloka was in my mind. It was in Bangalore. The stress on it. When it is not present – no light. And by knowing it you cross over and enjoy immortality. This is what they saying. It is not present now, but it will come one day. Now it is not present, so we don’t know it – it is words about death. By practicing yoga, everyday when you’re having experience in Yoni mudra – it is miniature experience of death. And the 15th shloka is exactly description of result and effects of Yoni mudra.

8th shloka: whoever realizes this connection – becomes all-knowing. Because all our knowledge is centered on Earth. Nature of Earth. Physics – understanding of physicality of Earth, botany – understanding of varieties of growth, biology – understanding the life force, which are from microbes to biggest forms – whoever live on her. History – studying of events, taking place on the surface; psychology – study of the mind of the people, who are living on the surface of Earth; – everything is connected with her. So whatever we are study – no matter, it is art or science, – it is centered on Earth. That means – she want us to study her. To know her better, so we will be more tune with her. Maybe one day the final union will take place and Mother knew us.

The 7th one: when the one who knows own beings have been ready become one with own self so what will use the force of that union. You see, when you realize that all beings have emerged from the Earth, and will one day merged with her – whatever is there, belongs to her. It is just an illusion, that you have something, it is actually belongs to her. And you realize it, and your conscious is united with her, then there is no sorrow, no happiness, – you are one with it. We will see the greater light, which mother wants us to see.

Kundalini upanishad

Q: let’s start from first, about chitta and subconscious mind.

Guruji: let’s take it complete- they are giving 2 reasons of unsteadiness of the mind. If your mind is so fluent. The memories of sanskaras of the past worlds and breathe. These two are the reasons: if you are able to neutralize them both- then mind will become steady.

There are 2 reasons for the desire in the chitta or unsteadiness- I mean not steady. One is sanskaras from old memories, from past birth, and vayu- breathe. And if you are able to discipline even one out of these two – then both are ended, both are finished and the mind is established in its own self. This is what they tell. You see- absolute different translation. And out of these two – first you should try to win vayu or breath. And there are 3 ways to conquer the breath or the prana.

They are giving 3 methods for controlling vayu. First- little food, like they give in yoga – mitahara; postures; and Shakti chalini mudra. And they are describing exactly like it is giving in yoga – keep your stomach half full, half empty. And they are describing two postures – lotus pose and siddhasana. Siddhasana they are giving as the name of vajrasana;- in Hatha Yoga Pradipika, also if you remember, they also call siddhasana as vajrasana. Then in fifth shloka they describe padmasana. Same way as they do in Hatha Yoga Pradipika. Siddhasana almost the same in sixth shloka.

They say the main Shakti is kundalini. And the knower, the wise practitioner of yoga – by the Shakti chalan it should bring him from down to between the eyebrows; this is called Shakti chalini.

They are now giving two special ways for awakening kundalini. One they are calling Saraswati chalan – moving Saraswati; and another is stopping of the prana – pranayama. By this stopping of prana the kundalini becomes straight. And Saraswati chalan- what is Saraswati chalan?- you remember Hatha Yoga Pradipika: ida is Ganga, pingala is Yamuna, and sushumna is Saraswati. It is simple( smiling). So opening of the sushumna is called Saraswati chalan.

In the ancient time the wise were also calling Saraswati as Arundhati. And here it is might be mentioned that Arundhati was the name of the wife of rishi Vasishtha. This is 9 shloka, now we goes to 10.

It is the very interesting shloka- 11th one. They are describing brain. Same way like this( hasti) and this( vitasti). 12 and 4; what is 12- 3 times measuring four fingers- this is the size of brain, and 4 fingers on the forehead also. So when you activate your Saraswati the Shakti goes up; you keep it inside that rolled back clothes that size( 12 and 4 fingers) – that means inside your mind and your skull you keep that power.

Q: why here mentioned 4 fingers n forehead?

Guruji: they are describing the size of the brain, which looks like a very soft white cloth rolled. And they are telling the size – it is about 12 angulas. Everybody’s head is same from their own hand. You measure your head – it is always the same if you are not bold, from hair line to back of the head.

12th shloka. They are not mentioning the nose. They are mentioning fingers – the thumb and way to touch it- the way to hold your hands together. And then move the Shakti from left to right. The thumbs must be together. I think that is the direct description of the second kriya, or third and forth kriya; from left to right and right to left. They also describe like indian woman wearing the clothes – they just do it the same way( putting saree cover the head). Any villager woman wearing saree always do like this.

So you practice it for 96 minutes.

Q: what about creating some vibrations in the belly?( in the 15th shloka)

Guruji: it is the second part of nabhi kriya when you take your head up, you are pulling your thing down also, inside; – same thing. By doing this the vayu goes beyond your chest- it goes up.

Q: and what about 16th shloka, when you must remove the air from the right side, right channel?

Guruji: you see, this is the real technical thing. They are not telling about the right nostril, they are simply saying “ the sun”. And sun is apana, mind it, and moon is prana – you must remember that. By doing this, they will change the place. And instead of prana going out you will release apana. It is absolutely different.

I think it’s a fantastic description the levels of Kriya Yoga after attening khechari. Because in the next chapter they will discuss the khechari mudra also.

Q: and next they say the release of diseases the yogi will be free from…

Guruji: yes, the yogi will be from all the diseases, but when the diseases also called the world – this maya is also called the disease. They called the disease of the creation. When they are telling about disease- there is the long way, not some physical problem.

Even though, they are describing some stomach problems will simply disappear.

In shlokas 71-72 they describing the final effect of the kundalini power. All the hormones, which are coming from the Moon, from the brain – it will simply make them dry by taking there. Also it will combine with apana and will take on the essence of blood and your plan(?) – bile. Then it will heat up all the system. And it will heat up your brain also – mind; and then it will go up. Now the mind which was going always outside – it will be inside now. It will draw into itself( antarmukhi). And then the kundalini will become one with all these things: five elements, mind, buddhi and the feeling of being – and will become one with that. And they will unite and become one with the Shiva. It will merge with Shiva. As if by the heating the gold is become liquid and spreads more widely: so the divine power will spread through out your body by this force. And then this physical body will become like sukshma sharira. It will be like atma then. It will become spirit.

All three granthi will be pierced – Brahma, Vishnu and Rudra( shloka 80). After that it goes in to sahasrara. And as Shakti unite with Shiva and will remain at eternal bliss.

You are opening it – granthi means a special knot which are stopping kundalini to rise. How? You are going down, opening them one by one – so finally the kundalini will flow. No obstacle in between.