CONCLUSION – FOREWORD
when You said about making yourself real in this world of illusion; the question is “how?”
Guruji: again I will give you my old answer: simply by realizing yourself, developing yourself, developing your brain to the 100% capacity – then you will know, how to make yourself real. Till then it’s a hypothetical philosophical discussion.
about making friends with your own spirit and about developing yourself – how to develop?
Guruji: back to the prototype answer: spirit brings life and takes away life – it’s a very boring and dull job of a spirit; simply by developing your brain and your consciousness to 100% capacity you maybe able to create some interest in the spirit. That – yes, she or he may talk to someone to a same level. Undeveloped mind cannot create such interest in the spirit – they don’t care.
again the question from someone who never practiced yoga and see you for the first time: how to develop the consciousness?
Guruji: there are several ways: first thing is to have very good genetics, family background, situational background, social thing and very-very good education.
After that you begin to realize the value of your own brain and it’s expression – mind and its consciousness; then you start to exploring – how I should develop it? Ultimately you will come to the yoga, direct method. I’ve never come across any method ever discussed that brain can be developed. Maybe I’m the first one to stress that point. Either people go to too much divinity or philosophy, devotion – and that’s it.
the collection or database of information hasn’t been introduced to anyone?
Guruji : we have to agree on this – that has to be certain type of development to become aware of this. This is provided by good genetics, family background, social background – so many things.
simply learning new things from the books, lectures and personal experience is accounting as a development?
Guruji: it is counting as not exactly development: increasing awareness. And finally you will ask the question, which is the famous Indian epic, in Brahma sutras asked: after knowing most of the things then the question comes: who is the knower? Then your attention goes to the mind and brain.
at what point this question comes?
Guruji: when you have gone through everything. Till then – it’s just a hypothetical discussion. You must have a little bit of developed brain to agree that it is the brain which is everything. Body is just a supporting system, no more than that.
to sum up things on that level: it sounds like the only way to physically instigate a process is to have diksha of qualified Guru and to start practice what Guru teaches you?
Guruji: I will say diksha is misinterpreted term: it is better to find a Guru who agrees to teach you. This describes better. Initiation, the word diksha is used like low chain nowadays. I’ve seen so many people coming – they have gone through initiation several times. So the word is no longer respectable.
on the physical level the pranayamas together with teachings of Guru, together with the lifestyle of the yoga is the only way to?
Guruji: to develop your brain and to be able to contact with your own spirit first hand.
how many people You see who achieved that by following that rules?
Guruji: looking back in history you can count them on your fingers. Not many.
we’re talking about that who met their own spirits?
Guruji: they became good friends.
from those few how many achieved immortality?
Guruji: all of them. If a spirit will accept you as a friend – it will agree to stay with you forever: that is immortality. But you must provide good living conditions for your spirit and enough entertainment- then the friendship will be interesting otherwise what’s the use?
what kind of entertainment we can imagine?
Guruji: your creative mind! Keep on creating good stories – it will remain interested. And good living conditions – inside the body of course. The spirit will start to take some interest in you.
but what we’re seeing during the practice – kutastha?
Guruji: we just seeing; we’re seeing Michael Jackson’s photographs or videos but it is another thing to be able to say hello to him. then it’s another thing to start the intimate friendship with him. Seeing is the first thing.
but we see exactly the spirit?
Guruji: yes, kutastha literally means immortal spirit.
but it doesn’t see us?
Guruji : after some time. Again back to Michael Jackson; you’re seeing him – but how many people he’ll noticing in the crowd? Somehow you become important to him to come and say hello. Then he will look at you then after some time maybe friendship will start.
does it mean that our mind must be already developed more than 2%?
Guruji: no, it’s a starting point for going beyond 2%. Seeing is believing; but again I noticed that it will take years to understand what we are actually see. It takes time. Good example just came: somebody asked me technical question – I just told him: please explain technical bicycling and you make me understand how to bicycle without ever riding a bicycle. Explain the technics!
enough to catch the balance
Guruji: that’s the point! So go on riding. Few falls, few scratches, then you will catch.
for children is much easier to learn bicycle than to adults
Guruji: they are innocent. That means – innocence is the name of the game. If you’re innocent enough – you will achieve in your balance in no time. Just a point.
now I’m worried
Guruji: everyone is worried now