Sometimes I wonder: are we living in the same world or the billions are living in that many different worlds. Everybody lives in his own world.
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I say sometimes that everybody living in this world is not sharing the same world. They keep on living in different worlds, nearly seven billion worlds.
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When I was going through a lot of adventures and misadventures I never thought that I would talk about them. But now I am for two three years continuously talking about them and discussing them. When you are experiencing them it is not such an enjoyable experience but after some time when you are boasting about them then it sounds very interesting.
Now, you tell me what a man wants?
Q: Liberation?
Sh: Not liberation. He wants a good company to be surrounded with and he wants to sound off and he needs an audience which will listen to him. I am a very fortunate person. Now I have them, yes.
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A person who has got enough money and a good family and a good house – but still something he lacks, he is not really happy with all these things. What does he need? My observation is that everybody wants to sound off and they need an audience who will listen very patiently to whatever they are saying.
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Every man loves to boast and to tell stories. And every man wants to have interested audience. Nobody is there to listen to them – and they are not happy. It is a very important thing that you create some audience. I was telling that we are all heroes of our own lives – or heroines. And we want to boast what heroic deeds we have done in our life to prove ourselves to the world, but sadly nobody wants to listen.
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Every movie is a collection of stills – but they are moving so fast in front of us we think that it is one movie. It is our perception. Otherwise it’s a collection of different stills. But as long as we remain a part of this big movie, we will never understand the reality. So you have to go out of that movie only then you will have an objective view and will be able to realize what is what. Till then we are a part of this playing different roles, parts, acting in it.
Who makes the movies? We do. Who acts in the movies? We do. Why are there horror movies? Because some people like it. Why are there comedies? Because so many people like it. It is our decision, our choice. It’s a big responsibility. It is a big burden to carry.
Most of us are like that: a person is starving by the roadside and some moviemaker comes and offers him some money and for money he will act…
Q: Doesn’t matter in what kind of movie?
Sh: No. Every starving person is ready to do anything. So we are also starving and we are ready to do anything.
Q: But when you are becoming a Hollywood star – well, the movie star usually has the power to read the script and choose it.
Sh: Yes, they do. And what about the people who are standing in the crowd? Even though we see them in the crowd, everybody is the main character in his movie and feeling special. I knew once an old man who is no more now; somehow he got a part in the crowd of a very old famous Hindi movie and he enjoyed the glory of playing there, he used to show us that particular frame. Everybody said: “Yes, yes, you are famous”. And he loved it.
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All the human beings have different ideas about themselves. All the time some wrong ego is present.
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There is a poem: “I am a seeker of fame. I have nothing else in my mind. Even if I become infamous that will be a type of fame”. They are seeking fame, yes: from Oswald to Jack the Ripper – all. You kill a famous person – and you are famous.
Q: Why do you think such an abnormal resolve appears in people?
Sh: In fact everybody wants to be recognized.
Q: Do you think it’s coming from loneliness.
Sh: Maybe. Or may be they attach fame with immortality: even if they are gone, they will keep on living in the memories of people. And it gives a person something very high. A high feeling.