Religions and spirituality: Christianity, Judaism, shamans, priests, religion versus yoga

We are in a very good position now. We are celebrating Shiva Ratri, Diwali ( Diwali is a significant 5-day festival in Hinduism, Sikhism, and Jainism, it means the victory of the good above the evil, occurring between the end of September and early November. It is also popularly known as the Festival of Lights. Diwali is an official holiday in India, Guyana, Singapore, etc. – editor’s note) , Christmas, Valentine’s day, everything. I think it is very intelligent thing to take everything good from every religion and celebrate. Which Jesus birthday Christmas is more proper, celebrating like, orthodox church or by catholic church? There are two Christmas one is the end of December catholic Christmas and the other is beginning of January Russian orthodox church Christmas. Russian Orthodox Church is correct, who established that. That means Catholic Church is older. I think it was St. Paul who started the Catholic Church. St. Paul he was the roman and he started that 60 years after Jesus. Well I think before Christianity came to Russia, Russia was a very happy land, so many celebrations, so many things. Then after that there is a long history of wars and facing this problem and that problem and again some problem. I have seen some photographs and some ancient things. Even recently near in Ukraine, the Datrateya had been found in an archeological exploration (1 — Dattatreya is considered by Hindus to be god who is an incarnation of the Divine Trinity Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. In the Nath tradition, Dattatreya is recognized as an Avatar or incarnation of the Lord Shiva and as the First Teacher of the Adinath Sampradaya of the Nathas. 2 – Nath — the Sanskrit word ‘ nāthá’, is the proper name of the initiatory tradition and the word itself literally means “lord, protector, refuge”. The related Sanskrit term Adi Natha means first or original Lord, and is therefore a synonym for Shiva. 3 — The Adinath Sampradaya was a sadhu sub-sect of the greater Nath Tradition. Followers of this tradition lead householder life, and thereafter lived as naked sadhus. Believing that sadhus should live alone until they had attained the goal, they lived in caves, huts, ruined buildings, or empty houses, and always away from towns and villages. – editor’s note.) . So maybe there was connection between Indian gods or something. A stone statute of Dattatreya was found in the cave. I don’t know why war is connected with every religion. They want power, they want money, and they need develop.

Shailendra: Once a man from a village went to a city. But an accident happened to him — and he lost his nose. He became so ugly, that he couldn’t get any job. So he decided to wear a brick red colour dress like a swami and go back to his village. When the villagers saw his face, they began to laugh. But he told them: “Why are you laughing, fools? This is the price I had to pay to see God face-to-face”. Some of the villagers became very curious. They considered themselves to be great devotees of God, so they started to ask him: “Could you show God to us?” He answered: “Yes, I can show God to you, but I will have to cut your nose for that”. Then one villager came forward and said: “I want to see God, and I will give my nose for that”.

So he took him to a private place, gave him clothes of a swami, and with a sharp knife he cut his nose.

The villager shouted and then told him: “I cannot see God”. And he told him: “But if you go and say it to the villagers, you will be a laughing stock of the whole village. So my suggestion is: go happy, dancing and crying: “I have seen God, I have seen God!”, and you will become a very respected person”.

So the villager did as he was told, and all the villagers prostrated in front of him as if he was a man from God. And after that one by one all the villagers had their noses cut.

After a while that became a sacred village and a lot of tourists began to come to see the noseless people.

Look around. Yoga is becoming very popular now and every religion is open for this but religion as religion is dividing us. Not every religion is taking to the truth or talking you to the God or something like that. No matter what religion talks about a certain good but no religion gives you the answer about your soul. No religion gives this answer; they were rather taken away your soul.

[Music] one priest came to me and he was trying to convert me to Christianity wanted me to become a business and the dialogue followed and he was full of love and all these things and he said oh my child don't you want to know God and there was some discussion she started saying I don't want to know God then he gave me a lecture full of love of God loves you this mr. I said I poor not to know God I said if God created me that means God knows me instead of fools my child

God knows you I said that is enough for me if God knows me if I don't know if it's fine it's a being like God knows meaning that that makes me feel very important Yeah right he never came back

Even in clothes, without clothes, you will remain a Hindu. No problem. Okay.

EITHER HELL OR HEAVEN OR SOMETHING ELSE

But jewish people – they have the god, who….

Guruji: They are worshipping Yahweh - they have their own god. He was appearing as a burning bush and guiding them.

Was there the only case when he appeared in front of them?

Guruji: There are several stories in the bible, old testament; they will always go to the woods, offer sacrifice and burn something - and he would appear as a burning bush. That means – he loves the woods and outside things. Also he likes sacrifices – which is a common thing among all gods. But I don’t know – when they began to build temples, whether he was appearing inside a temple or not – there's no record. He always appeared in the woods – or in a cave in the mountains. He loves outside things.

What do You think about the idea of building temples?

Guruji: It was carried over from Roman times, Greek times, Egyptian times – they were all building temples; so it follows.

Was it deliberately done to mislead them?

Guruji: See, human beings love to be misled. God himself is talking, he is guiding – and they came out from the Egyptian temples and started to build synagogues – not exactly temples. The impression of some civilizations remains for a very long time.

The English language is good: this part of the head is called “temple”: inside god is living. Your mind, your brain is your god.

How do you worship this god, which is inside?

Guruji: This is what we’re trying.

…worship like Krishna himself if you want to worship. You’re putting the impression of the very deity inside your body whom you’re going to worship. Yourself you can worship with your own mind.

Everything depends on our own motives. The idea of heaven for a suffering person or poor person – to live lavishly in every kind of luxury; now human beings are known to know how to achieve it themselves.

Look at the description of heaven: it looks like a 5 star resort where you are just relaxing, having a massage and whatever you want: if you have enough to pay. In heaven you’re paying by your virtues and good deeds – as they say. Before that, in Egyptian times, you were paying with gold also. So it was just payment.

Now – whoever can effort it anytime except for living long: that is the greatest luxury. And as I pointed out before and I’ll point it out again: every description of heaven is only for men. So what are the girls doing? What can be heaven for them?

I don’t want to go to heaven.

Guruji: Every religion will give you only two options: either hell or heaven. Yoga will give you a third option! Remain in the middle.

India: Motherland of Yoga

Guruji: “Some are adopting Buddhism, some Hinduism, some are doing devotional chants. People are running after Eastern religions, especially after the recent disclosures of child abuse cases. I was watching an English movie on Z-TV a few days back. Can’t remember the name, but the main character was playing dual personalities, and he murdered a catholic priest, cutting into pieces. Ultimately it turns out that the priest was running a child pornography racket from his orphanage. That’s why he was murdered! This was first movie of its kind; otherwise people wouldn’t dare say such things about Christian priests our in public, or make movies about these. They’d always be shown in a good light. This made me feel that something has definitely changed."

“Heard in a TV serial that it was a common practice for the missionaries in Africa and other countries to have sex with local women. Now due to scare of AIDS, they’ve started doing it with local men. I was amazed to hear that so casually mentioned on televisions!”

Guruji: “At least the grand balloon Christians have kept inflated for so long about being righteous and supreme and working for God, etc, has been punctured now. Especially after 1999. Hinduism in general has become more popular. Comparatively speaking, there’s been more curiosity and appreciation for Hindu arts. Yoga is an example.

"Yoga is a universal thing and a set of techniques, and has nothing to do with any religion. But we should all remember that it’s a historical fact that Yoga evolved in India only. And it is an ancient science of Hindus. And it was their magnanimity since they had become one with Nature, that they were able to say that Yoga is for every being on Earth who is human. Since they were not sectarian and used to see the entire world as one family, they were able to make such profound statements. The sects that came after and the religions that evolved later managed to spoil the entire beauty of it.

"And it the limit of bootlicking that people are giving lectures and writing books to prove that Jesus Christ was a yogi! Tiggle and others asked me and I clearly told them Jesus was no yogi. If he were, all Christians would be seen practicing yoga today. Pope would have the highest guru of Yoga if Jesus Christ were a yogi!

"What is ours, we should openly accept. It is Indian and all yogis have been Indians only. I have never seen a foreigner achieving Samadhi. Now Yogananda has said that James J. Lin is sitting in samadhi, but I have my doubts. How is it possible? He never taught Khechari to anyone. I know Daya Mata can’t do it, I’m sure of it. She just goes unconscious in bhava-samadhi. There’s no concrete substantial teaching there. But at least he’s been able to blow a hole in the citadel of Christianity. Who is Christ? Who makes everybody cry (laughs)."

"Is there something fundamentally wrong that they haven't been able to achieve samadhi?"

Guruji: "Fundamental wrong is that their religion has no knowledge of samadhi. They don’t teach anything about it, neither are there any practices for it. Trance, etc, are just matters of witchcraft. Their religion is all about saving your soul. In that confusion, they surrender the only immortal substance they have. They seal the contract in blood, whether devil-worshipers or Christians. They are all drinking blood. There’s an evil influence due to that."

MENTIONING OF YOGA IN THE BIBLE

GENESIS 2:7 GOD CREATE MAN FROM THE DUST

Guruji: I’ve been asked that if christianity mentions Yoga of any type in Bible or something. Because I am not a christian so I can have an objective point of view.

And I can quote one thing from Bible! They say: out of the dust he created, and into his nostrils He breathed the breath of life.

It simply tells me, that breath which GOD granted to the creation which he did from the dust - Breath is directly connected with GOD. Breath is the only power or only link which is connecting you directly to the GOD.

So if you will study your breath, go deeper into it, I am sure it will take you to the GOD himself. Because, breath coming from HIM, remember that.

MATTHEW 6:22-23 IF THEREFORE THINE EYE BE SINGLE…

Guruji: Somewhere, I don’t remember where : if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light….

(Matthew 6:22-23 King James Version (KJV)

The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!)

maybe it is a direct descriptors Of Yoni mudra, very much possible

Genesis 9:2,3

(2 The fear and dread of you will fall on all the beasts of the earth, and on all the birds in the sky, on every creature that moves along the ground, and on all the fish in the sea; they are given into your hands. 3 Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you.)

Guruji: Well, I’m not much scholar in Bible or Christianity , But, somebody was

discussing with me.

And GOD created man and animals as his food !

But I will be very happy if it was written: that GOD created MAN and ANIMALS and their food.

I will be very happy with this line.

And two legendary actors were acting in it…

Movies name was “Sadhu and Shaytan”. I love that movie. Specially the end!!!

Kishore Kumar is the greatest singer. He see that hero Mahmud, is in love with his sister, and he ask him…haaaaaa!!! And he answer - hmumhmmmm…

And marriage is done ! Haaaaa…hmmmmmm…

I mean it’s classic seeing of this two legends. I’m a fan of them!

Most of the white people from Europe eliminated the Indian aborigines in America; most of the bad things came from them. They will never forgive. Now it’s in fashion to go to the shamans and learn about this trip and that trip, going high… they cannot forgive. And they should not – why they should forgive? In Castaneda’s books – most of the half-truth are there; it’s not complete books. How he died, Carlos Castaneda?

maybe from cancer

Guruji: he didn’t die peacefully. You have to be very careful.

is it black magic?

Guruji: not black magic exactly, but it’s very easy for misdirection. Suppose you have killed someone’s five generations: then some of your descendants will go and learn from the descendants of people you killed. I don’t think they will welcome you with open arms- the memories are always in their hearts. You have to be very honest about it and very clear.

One Canadian girl asked me – she was a friend of my disciple, also from Canada; don’t You think the same thing will apply to white people and Indians? I said – British people never did such things to India. Islamic rule did so much problems here, but britishers came and remove Islamic rule from India, defeated them; introduced democracy for the first time in the history of this planet- to India first; they never ever demolished a single Indian temple- Islamic demolished hundreds and thousands of temples. They created archeological department to preserve the heritage of Indian people; and they give us a system which still is – India running on that. here the situation is different. But when they went to America – that was absolutely different.

why britishers behaved like that, what do You think?

Guruji: we can compare that, if we have enough time; but going to America was a very different thing. Most of the criminals and prisoners have been send there – and they were taking the territory. And in India already 500-600 kings were ruling; islam was there – it was very disturbing time. They came, lay down sewere lines for us- they crated a lot of things.

TRUTH IS ONE

In numerous traditions many different sadhanas are described with seemingly one goal, which can be samadhi and turiya, but do they work as intended, as they are so strongly differentiated? Because the algorithm of the unlocking sushumna, piercing and going through the granthas, rising of Kundalini, formation of the chakras; it cannot be very different in many different sadhanas just because the vayu sharira is the same and it composed out of the same elements. So is it true that we have to start with brahma granthi and continue with hridaya and if it’s true that those techniques and specter of methods is not so variable, it’s a very limited way?

Guruji: I will start by quoting the very ancient thing: truth is one, but different wise people tell it in different ways. So the source of all the wisdom and all these practices is one.

But as not so qualified people began to propagate it to create their own empire – so many different versions of so many different simple things started. The more you try to make things complicated – the bigger your empire and followers will become. They will grow; because you’re giving them so much complication, and you’re giving the understanding that you are the knower of these so called complicated great things and only you can make them uncomplicated; so follow me!

Remember, truth is always so simple. Whatever you’re doing, whichever tradition you’re following – you’re using your consciousness, your mind and brain. When I say – develop your consciousness, develop your mind and develop your brain along with your physical body, which will continue to support your greatly developed brain. That is the basic tool for doing whatever you want to do. And remember, the understanding of Kundalini will start only after your three granthis have been pierced, and chakras have been formed. Otherwise till then we will continue to discuss it without actual understanding. When you begin to experience – then you will begin to actually appreciate its different movement, different sound vibrations; so many different things will come to you only after that.

But if you somehow follow any tradition and you start as a newcomer in that and after some time you think that you’re progressed to a certain level; then you’re afraid to change the tradition – even if you started to see it is not taking you anywhere. There your vanity and ego will come into play, because you spend 10 years there; YOU have given your 10 years – so it must be good and great. That will just keep you there in a cocoon of ignorance and you will remain happy; but no butterfly will come out of the cocoon – take my word for it.

Source is one, truth is always very simple; and remember here also: these terms – samadhi, turiya – they are part of the yogic language. No other tradition; all other traditions took these terms from yoga and started to use it to impress others. Samadhi was so much talked about since Yogananda went to the west. Do some research; how many people have experienced samadhi? How many people have given descriptions of samadhi? How many people can you see that they may have achieved samadhi? And in India, Samadhi and death are also synonyms.

When as a token of respect, some sadhu dies it is said – oh, he has gone into Samadhi: that is another linguistic problem. But try to do some research: you’ll find 5, highly 7 – no more than that. Only in yogic texts you will see people achieving it, but not so many.

DIFFERENT THOUGHTS…

Actually Shakti is called Shiva – he is Shiv.

There is one danger in fairy-tales: when you believe in fairy tale and begin to propogate it – it will become a new religion. All religions were started like fairy-tales.

One foreigner visited India in Holi time and have the conclusion that the whole India is crazy. Another one visited India on Diwali day – said no, you’re wrong, they are highly civilized and intelligent people, everyone well dressed, everything is clean, lamps are burning everywhere.

Only yogic parampara can help spirits in a certain way. Simply catching ghost is not a big problem – there are many exorcists who are doing it. Here we’re after catching a spirit or let’s say removing him from the possessed body guide the spirit – and that is the most important part of it. I’m learning a lot, every day something new comes up.

I have a question: why did god let the people crucify his son?

Guruji: Maybe god doesn’t know the people. Otherwise – why did he send his son to get tortured?

Bhagavan Krishna says: I see all the past, present…

Guruji: Bhagavan Krishna is talking as Time. And we don’t know – which god sent his son.

all success is commercial – everything is commercial

Guruji: but it gives you a lot of opportunities also – to survive without doing anything. Society helps you in that( smiling). So much charity is going on around us. When you roam to countryside – you will learn, how to survive. All this clash between Christianity, islam, buddhism, Hinduism: you just put a smile and behave like them - you will get free meal, no problem. Even clothes and some shelter. Anywhere: no matter it is a mosque, or a church or a temple – you will have enough food to survive; clothes, blankets and so many things. All religions are good from that point of view(smiling): this philosophical clash is useless. If you’re vegetarian – go to some hindu ashram, hindu temple; if you want to eat meat – go anywhere, it will be provided to you.

Guruji: "The annual puja of Hanuman-ji is on the 6th (Dec). Many people will come for that. It's been going on since 1996. This is the 7th one. It just started automatically.. still going on. Best thing is it's only one day long.

"One strange thing happened: A 16 year girl who was possessed went to Mehendipur Balaji to remove her affliction. The temple caretakers took advantage of her and left her to die in front of the Bhairav temple. This is the first time this kind of case has come out from that place. Rather, this is the first time it came to be publicly known, things like this must have been going on there for some time. Police has arrested some people, there's a lot of uneasiness in that area.

"I'm observing that since we started Shiva-ji's puja and started sounding bull-horn, a lot of deep-rooted corruption like this is getting exposed and uprooted all around. There's a change in the air; may be the time has changed since 2000. Every day we hear about some famous sadhu caught in some dirty deed and exposed to the public. A common man doesn't have that much respect for famous sadhus as he used to. This the main article in today's paper:

Selling Faith in the Shop of Lies and Corruption

In these times, the guru market is blooming. God gives in plenty, but the godman gets even more. Not only in India, but also in foreign countries there's no escape from these dealers of emancipation. Big ashrams are being built, expensive cars are being bought. They've kept God in one corner, and are competing to decorate the rest of the shop as lavishly as possible. Devotees are told, 'World is an illusion, what you are seeing is illusion, all relationships are evil and selfish. Break all relations and make relationship with God.' But so called gurus don't tell why this illusion, this attachment doesn't apply to themselves? Why is this world not a false reality for them? Why do they need air-conditioned palaces? Why need dozens or servants, luxury cars? For the devotee, the world is an illusion. For the guru, it's the biggest truth! How is that possible?

Time is limited. Time to wake up. World is not illusion. God's creation, in which He manifests Himself even in the smallest atom, how can that be a lie?

"This is a commonplace talk now. And this is where the difference in the general approach and a yogi's approach lies. Our approach is right, Earth is the truth and our God."

“I feel that all the later religions, which formed world over after the so-called dark period, they all somehow went into negation. Judeo-Christians say you are born in sin, so everybody is filled with guilt all the time. Or some say you should have non-attachment. If you are not attached to anything, then what’s the point of doing anything? The old vedic way of life was very natural. We should be totally down to earth.

“I have also seen some idiots – I was going to use a heavier curse word but there are people sitting here – some idiots who even quarreled with their mothers saying ‘You are

māyā (illusion). You’ve destroyed me by giving birth to me!’ This is all stupidity and nothing else. If there were no senses, man would go insane.

“It’s just a part of business. First create confusion among people, and then preach them their entire lives. If you don’t create confusion, nobody will ask how to get out of it. Eventually you’ll be in an important position, since you can teach people how to get out of confusion, and so on. Then will come saints and bishops and mahaṁtas (abbots). And the common man, who was leading a simple life, these people twist and bend and shred his life into a thousand pieces and drain it down the toilet. Generally people are happy before meeting sadhus and

sanyāsīs (renunciates).

“That’s why Lahiri Mahasaya used to advise people to stay away from sadhus. Also, as I’ve discussed this many times, sanyāsīs remain expelled from śmaśāna (cremation grounds). Śmaśāna is Shiva and Shakti’s place, and only a worldly man has entry. Sanyāsīs are either drowned in rivers or buried in earth. And those who are not allowed in śmaśāna, what’s the guarantee that they’ll achieve emancipation or not? Actually it’s a fact that they don’t. If Shiva-ji has refused them entry in His house, how can they be free? The become ghosts and wander around. I’ve seen hundreds of ghosts of sadhus in Rishikesh and Vrindavan. Those sadhus who are buried usually become ghosts.

“Always remember Ghalib’s words:

(‘The secret of heaven is something else. The god concept now feels like made up.’)”

Sense, Sensual and Sensible, Jesus Christ, Indian Youth

"Guruji, it is said that knowledge brings deliverance. So, if someone understands food, for example, they still have a taste for it. Will their enjoyment go away?"

Guruji: "We are not talking about the end of enjoyment. It's about the end of attraction or attachment. Hankering, actually. If somebody is addicted to something and think about it all the time, that hankering will stop. You'll enjoy things but not live for that. I also think that the more knowledgeable or wiser you are, the higher is your enjoyment level. You will be more sensitive.

"People say that you should stay away from sensual pleasures. Now here's a linguistic analysis: Sensuality depends on senses. Only somebody who is nonsense will not have sensual pleasures in his mind. If you have enough sense, then also you could be called sensual. Sensual word has unnecessarily been attached to sex only. This means every religion is out to make you nonsense (laughs). It's a play on words but still a significant truth: we are born in sensuality that's why we are sensible."

"Guruji, aren't there rules that say that for development we should conserve sexual energy?"

Guruji: "The main reason for this rule to conserve energy is that in a particular period in a man's life, their concentration should not break. If you had married when you were 14, you thinking direction would have been totally different. That's why a few norms have been made: don't marry until 25, then live as a householder between 25 and 50 years of age, then live a life of contemplation afterwards. They discovered that for development of senses this is the best plan.

"All our systems are to ensure continuity of learning; learning must go on! That's why rebirth is assured through the cremation and last rites so that learning is not discontinued. In Hindu dharma, break in learning is not tolerated. That's why Pi??a d?na [an offering of balls of food for the departed. Literally: 'body donation'] is done to ensure next birth. In Islam and Christianity, the soul waits eternally for the judgment day, so the learning is completely frozen. That's a basic difference: our dharma guides while living as well as after death.

"In a broader sense, everything is a sensual pleasure. Wearing good clothes is a sensual thing: as people say, 'they have a good dress "sense"'. When someone goes to church and pray, even that they are doing with their senses, as they have enough sense to go to church and pray. It is better to be sensible than to be nonsensical.

"Look at Jesus Christ; what did he do wrong? He only ate good food in the last supper, had his hair oiled, and feet washed. Even that was enough to get Judas Iscariot jealous: How could he be the messiah? According to him, being messiah means don't eat good food or put oil in your hair. Then he told the authorities who was Jesus and got him caught just for 30 silver coins. His thinking was exactly like the Christian priests of today: Instead of helping the poor, how dare he buy expensive oil? Why did he talk to Mary Magdalene? And it was acceptable to him to get Jesus hanged just for that! The priests of today have exactly the same mentality.

"This means that if you are getting ready to be a messiah, you should plan on starving to death, otherwise someone else will get you killed. Now see, nobody cares what happened to Judas, but imagine that zealots like him must have established the church organization. The basis of church was service of the poor. That means the original theme, or the sense of Jesus Christ, was totally lost! This is why Christ's life looks fine to me, but not the organization's. What's wrong with eating good food? (laughs)

"Someone asked me, 'How would you imagine an Indian youth to be like?.' I answered: Someone who is standing in the fields barefoot, with loincloth around him, can talk fluent English with the American slang, and is also carrying a cellphone in his head-wrap. A youth who doesn't leave his roots but has the knowledge of the entire world in his hands. That's how I imagine an Indian youth to be like.

"An Indian mind is so great that if they stay connected to their roots, they can move the world. The current system established by Britishers, even though has constrained our talents and our creativity, it has taught has how to advance in the most adverse conditions, to do something big despite all the opposite conditions. It's a miracle in itself. That's why Indians anywhere in the world do better than the natives there, which means they'll dominate in the future. And here I'll quote Jesus the Christ, 'Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the world’. We have only been proving our meekness in the past couple of thousands of years.

"This is free thinking, a yogi's point of view. It is not subscribed to any particular caste, creed, or nation. It is an Earthman's free thinking, an Earthman, who appreciates Nature, admires Nature, and with appreciating and admiring Nature who is also working hard to know his own nature. We are neither condemning or condoning anybody. 'Kabira Khada Bazaar Mein Maange Sub Ki Khair, Na Kahu Say Dosti Na Kahu Say Bair' [Saint Kabir's couplet, meaning: 'Kabir, standing in the marketplace, wishes everyone well. He has neither affiliation nor quarrel with anyone.']."

GURUJI ABOUT SHAMANISM

now it is very popular to try the shamanic tradition; first you have to clean yourself and then you can see very strange things…

Guruji: westerners are ready to try everything.

but it will change your mind?

Guruji: if you will be pure so much – it will absolutely change your mind. Very simple thing. You know, in ancient Egypt, what poor people were called? They were called westerners.

So if you’re puking and all your ends are open – of course your mental state will be different then.

Some Americans came and they were also talking so much about shamanism and all these things; I simply pointed out the very obvious fact which in their utopian thought were missing all together. White people genocide all American Indians – all that massacres are not thing even to imagine when you read about it and try to imagine. I don’t think you can ever forgive you for that. So, when some young people are going there and they are introducing them to drugs and other things and it is spoiling them; - there is no forgiveness of what have been done with them.

He sent me a very good book: “Five hundred nations”, the American history; it was very serious thing and it’s very shocking: five hundred different tribes of Indians were simply vanished. It was horrible situation. If somebody – like you will go to them, “please,”- I don’t think they will forgive you or they will be a paramahamsa to guide you the right path. Be careful there!

I’ve just interested – why people are going there?

Guruji: because they don’t know what to do with their own lives.

they are seeking truth at the wrong place?

Guruji: they are not seeking truth; they just want a trip. And most of the drugs came from them- from LSD to whatever be here. And even if you read Carlos Castaneda’s books – he was been planned by government – very easy to see that.

They also have a story of Red Messiah coming; they write that he will roll the earth like a carpet and all the mines of the white people will disappear and the land will be restored to its original state. They have this story. And they have some great ideas about the god and the creator: they called the creator Wakatonka – which simply means “great mystery”. And we will have to agree with them. He is a great mystery.

what is guna? Quality or state?

Guruji: properties. Everybody is inside the main three properties.

See what now happen with Kriya yoga: only after 150 - so many commercialization and so many different people – liars, disclaimers, so many things. We can just imagine what would have happen with religion – with christianity, with islam, with Hinduism in thousands of years. If Kriya yoga can change so much in so short time. Humanity are so good in commercializing everything.

40% of Kashmiri language is the same as hebru.

I’ve read that Jesus could be in India…

Guruji: it is possible. If you read bible carefully - the star of the east is rising and three wise men from east came. And east for middle east is India. One Muslim girl came from Moscow and she was asking what is the difference between Mohammad and Jesus. I said that Mohammad in all his life do any single miracle like Jesus do.

If the person starts to talk too much about god and love and spirituality – be very careful.

that means we must be very careful with everything that happens surround us…

Guruji: if you want to survive – of course. And with the spirituals matters you need to be even more careful. God create men. But nowhere mentioned that god created priests.

why people searching god in religion?

Guruji: all religion was created only for god. What is the basic thing in every religion? You are believing in some unknown god, believe in priest who is talking from some god. And he will tell you that if you will suffer – you must give everything to the god and then god will be pleased and allow you to enter the heaven. All the basis is fear. What happened to jesus? When he try to talk truthfully, began to help people, even take back dead man to life – every single religion of that time talk against him. Religion was not supporting him at all. When some religion is established for some time – they don’t want to think openly, they don’t want to cross the borders of it. So he was crucified. He became very popular only after someone created organization around his name.

so much religions were destroyed by Christianity…

Guruji: this is still impossible thing for me – how everybody agreed to consider jesus like their god. I’m vegetarian and I don’t understand how is possible to drink the blood of own god.

do you think jesus were teaching yoga?

Guruji: no, I think people was not ready for yoga things.

There is place in Kashmir, called Kalarus. And they believe there are five tunnels from Kashmir to Russia.

So, the conclusion is – yoga is much ancient than Buddhism.

maybe people perceive it like a game?

Guruji: there they go wrong. It’s not a game. Hinduism was taken very lightly – maybe that’s why whole world is suffering. It’s very peculiar thing.

…Christianity and islam are just a branches of Judaism, Judaism is the major religion. Most genealogy Judaism belongs to the judos. All the story about Adam and Eve, heaven, god – it is jewish god, Yahwe, and for him all them are worshipping. Even if they called themselves Christians or musalmans – they basic mother religion is Judaism. So they god is Yahwe and they think he is almighty god which is everywhere. And it might be true – I’m nothing against it. But in India we have many-many-many different gods – they are ruling the world and they are very strong spirits, let’s say worldly spirits – they are there. And we are actually able to recognize every god, how it looks, it’s name; there are many different mantras to invoke the certain different gods. But judos has only one word and they also say – he, whose name could not be spoken. They maybe knowing him, but they may not be knowing him. Atha dhyanam – how to think of this god: they actually describe, how he looks. So you need concentrate on that, visualize it, and with that perfect visualization you also chant certain mantra which Guru is given to you(!). then some telepathic connection will begin to develop with that certain god- after some time.

if someone will try to invoke some god with some mantra?

Guruji: no, it will not work, because it is always from the tradition. And you need to know which god actually is more connected with yourself.

and who knows – which connection must be done?

Guruji: only Guru can tell you that. Who is the very open-minded Guru not belonging to certain sect , who is really interested in your progress – such Guru. It is sad that nowadays we don’t see many Gurus like that.

INSECT

When you say something – you give the certain form to a formless thought and your thoughts starts to become more and more clear. If you’re a yogi and your mind is developing, consciousness is expanding, that means – every topic you should be able to discuss. It’s part of the wisdom. The moment you joined a sect – you become an insect.

HUMAN RELIGION

now human beings are worshipped instead of heavenly gods?

Guruji: so many: Jesus Christ was a human being, profit Mohammad was a human being, Krishna took incarnation as a human being, Rama was a human being – the divinity is coming in a human form – which was never before.

did it started from Lord Parashuram – he also is a human being?

Guruji: but he was a son of a rishi.

it’s not considered as a true human?

Guruji: not exactly. Rishis were born from the mind of Brahma. Even in the west nobody worships the Olympian gods or roman gods, all Egyptian gods are gone. Now human religions are ruling. Now matter, how cruel they may appear – but it’s human nature to fight – at least they are human beings, they are born as human beings.

and rishis were not human beings – they were another races?

Guruji: it’s recorded that some human beings achieved the state of rishi. Very few.

BELIEVE WITHOUT A DOUBT

Not a single ghost tolds me exactly about heaven or hell, saint Peter – nothing. We have seen millions and millions of ghosts and help them – because ghosts also need help. Whether you’re alive or dead – doesn’t matter – help is required. You see, I’m a grassroots level person, I don’t like to use very heavy philosophical terms – spirit, soul… a dead man is ghost. He needs help – we give him help. Philosophers can discuss spirit or soul till eternity.

Q : that matter, which comes to reincarnation – it is ghost?

Guruji : whatever. Yes. But remember, only hindus are talking about reincarnation.

Q : but we are free – and all of us reincarnate?

Guruji : no. baptize ritual catches you and you cannot escape. Before baptization you had this chance. But if you faith in any religion – have it totally. Believe in what religious books are telling you.

Q : I’m orthodox Christian

Guruji : so you must have faith in bible and your priest: if they are saying that you will lie in the grave until judgement day will come – you must believe in that. If you committed yourself – you must have absolute faith in bible.

Q : but we deal only with translations and they could be wrong?

Guruji : it’s hypothetical thing.

Q : bible was written 2000 years before and it’s very different from what priests are saying now?

Guruji : whatever, you must believe. Have faith! You have to read original hebru – maybe than you’ll understand something. Why you have doubts in that?

Q : priests are not telling the truth to us?

Guruji : you’re not in position to judge them. You’re not a monk, you just observing them from your own point of view. Maybe it’s just a test for your faith.

Q : but I see their behavior

Guruji : maybe they are trying to teach you – humbleness for example. You think you have more knowledge than them?

Q : no, I just have no answers to the questions?

Guruji : Maybe mind just not developed enough to receive the answer? My point is: leave the situation and let it develop. How we can judge something which remain for 2000 years? It will need learning the subject, pondering on the questions and studying all you can study on that.

ABOUT SHAMANS

What are yogis’ thoughts, knowledge or opinions about shamans? What could be the consequences of such intervention — for both the shaman and the person who’s been cured?

Guruji: Oh, we know quite a lot about shamans, and they are very much knowledgeable people. They are connected with natural spirits also.

They can feel the spirits of the nature, trees, and everything. And sometimes shamans know far more than so-called philosophers.

He is helping, that is the main thing. Helping anyone is a very good thing. And if you know something and even then you are denying help to the needy, this is not a good thing. So shamans are doing good. I will tell you, I had so many friends.

We were friends with one Aghori, who was a very knowledgeable person, and we were very good friends.

And he will tell one thing, and I will repeat it to you, "A wise person is not the one who has read so many books. A wise person is the one with whom the dead persons's spirits talk." And I have to agree with him. That is wisdom.

KRIYA AND ADVAYTA

is it possible being follower of advayta system to practice kriya yoga?

Guruji: if you’re following the system of advayta – you’re already committing yourself. That person will never appreciate the true results of Kriya yoga – because his mind is already committed to advayta. And if he is already following the advayta – why he needs to practice anything? There is no separation, no duality, nothing; who is practicing yoga and who doesn’t practicing – it doesn’t matter to them. Why should they practice? Conviction is not there about advayta – it is just an intellectual exercise for them, so they can boast in front of you – oh, I’m following advayta, or I’m following visheshta advayta and I’m superior than you.

but what about faith?

Guruji: no faith. Very open mind and intelligent mind is needed. Believe in yourself! If you’re not believing in yourself – no matter, in which god you believe – nothing is going to happen. Have faith in yourself! Every religion on this planet tells you, that god lives in your heart. So – believe your heart.

I’ve seen thousands of people in last 30-40 years, following advayta. What I can comment – I just wish them well. If you’re following advayta – you have my best wishes. Dvayta – ok, sakar- ok, nirakar- ok, if you’re krishnait – fine, if you’re shaivite – fine, if you’re shakt – that is fine. But I would prefer to remain a human. That is my choice, I’m not forcing it to anyone else. And I’m not allowing anyone else to force on me their own convictions unnecessarily.

IN THE NAME OF LOVE

It is not my personal statement…

More people have been killed in the name of GOD, and in the name of love, than in the name

DEVIL and HATE.

We need to consider that also.

NO SNAKE – NO STORY

It will take 7 life times to understand, what you achieve. You will be Paramahamsa then.

I’m indian, hindu Brahmin also – and I will tell you, it doesn’t exist such thing as forgiveness among hindus. I will tell you the difference between hindu religion and other religion, very simple: hindus don’t worship creator.

Just for the sake of discussion, hypothetically if we believe that all human beings are descendants of Adam and Eve( even it’s jewish mythology) : we cannot worship the person, who kicked out our ancestors from heaven.

in heaven it was a snake who confused them?

Guruji: snake always gave wisdom – so he gave them wisdom and make them aware of their nakedness.

Remove snake from bible – there’ll be no story.

Yahweh or Jesus.

I’ve read bible many times and I like that – it’s very good thing. Some great things written in that book and I read them literally. By reading bible I came to know that is very simple to see god. How? And god created man in his own image – so you just look yourself in a mirror and you will see god’s image. I believe in this.

what do you think – who gets all this power from praying and worshipping to Christian god?

Guruji: I’m sure that there is god. And judes introduce him – Yahweh, he, whose name could not be spoken. And no matter – if Christians are worshipping to or musalmans are worshipping – actually they are praying to Yahweh. All the praying are going to him.

so he is powerful now?

Guruji: he was already powerful to command such devotion.

but every god are not dyeing, but

Guruji: they are not dyeing, but they have the period of command. Many religions come forward and disappear, maybe they have some time for rule on this planet – this topic remain open for speculation. Or maybe the same god is appearing in different names. With generations human mind keep changing so he’s coming in different names – the only god can tell you, you will never know.

could Yahweh be one of the vedic gods, who were beaten by Shiva on Daksha yagya?

Guruji: not a single vedic god is been worshipped now.

but from were Yahweh come? He is connected somehow with Egypt?

Guruji: I’ve just can tell you my impression from old testament. In the beginning when Jacob going into the woods, they burn some good smell there and sacrifice some animal – then the Yahweh will appear and talk to him from the burning bush. It means – he love to live open. Whenever when we hear the conversation when the god appear from the burning bush; but after they start to build churches and synagogues - he stop talking.

but if rishi created all the gods and vedas – it must be someone who created Yahweh?

Guruji: it’s not mention in any jewish book.

When Daksha was beaten and his head was cut – instead of human’s he will have the goat’s head. And suddenly Daksha’s story end in India, but in Europe begin the story of the devil, looking completely the same. You should read all the world mythology then make some connections. There are some stories which are completely similar and there are some characters which are common. They names could be different in Sanskrit, gebru and English, but the story is same.

so spirit of Christ is not Yahweh?

Guruji: no, they are different but maybe connected. Jesus was specially prepared to appearing the powerful spirit of Christ. Read bible: when John baptize him in the water – the holy spirit in the shape of the golden dove entered Jesus and he began to do miracles.

so it was some spirit inside him doing all these miracles?

Guruji: yes, the spirit of Christ. And you must never forget, what was said in bible when Jesus was born. The star of the East was rising. East means India. And three wise men come. It must be someone from yogic cult, I’m sure, because only yogis can prepare a certain body for entering heavy spirit.

Jesus was connected with yogis, but he was not a yogi himself?

Guruji: technically you can call him a yogi because he could do miracles. He was a carrier of a spirit inside him, which makes him very important.

what is with Jesus spirit now?

Guruji: he is very happy now. Maybe he is waiting for another task – after centuries or thousands of years maybe another situation come. Such spirit don’t come every day. He was very special and he was sent for this particular task – to finish all ancient gods and he was successful in that.

who started the symbol of Christianity – who started use the cross for this aim?

Guruji: it is so many theories – that it was the symbol of death in Egypt, it might be the symbol of a sword also… but if you going through tantra and magic you see crossroad as a symbol of great things. Most of the magic is done on crossroads. It maybe the symbol of power also. Crossroad is supposed to be very potent mystery there: mystical powers live on this crossroad.

if someone constantly is carrying cross on him – it must somehow affect him?

Guruji: he will become more and more fanatic sort of devotee, he will believe in it, thinking it is defense of vampires – but actually vampires don’t care. This wearing is not powerful, but the organization behind him is. Most of the people are weak and they want the feeling of belonging and protection. If you start the war against church – you will have no place on cemetery, no grave. Most of the graveyards are owned by church.

what do you think – when in icons are used the ash or the parts of the body of some saint – that spirit must not be very happy, that he must doing something for someone even after death?

Guruji: but also he will enjoying because he is been worshipped. He’s not a slave, you need to pray to him. He is connected with icon, but he’s not a slave – he’s need your devotion and your praying. It’s different situation.

creating such icon looks like magic ritual…

Guruji: it is. Remember Gita: those who worship to dead – goes to dead.

My question is from book Bhagavad Gita. I don’t remember what translation it was. It was said that we have to get rid of any rituals. Can you elaborate a bit more on this, please?

A: Yes, you are talking about Vedic rituals. Most rituals were done to please certain goals of god, so he will allow you entry into heaven. But when you have made yourself strong enough, then you don’t require any ritual to please anyone, and I will give you a different perspective here: there was a time when humanity was worshiping immortal gods living in heaven or Olympus. Then Jesus Christ coming the divinity descended into humanity and after Jesus and Gautam Buddha and there is a long line of human being who actually were able to archive divinity without worshiping on an immortal god who was living in heaven. So it gives us a very great hope and Shri Krishna and Gita already write saying that you don’t need rituals to be divine yourself, you just need to find it inside you. So for this he’s recommending to become a yogi. Do it.

PRACTICE AND SUPPORT OF THE NATURE

in Japan they are saying that our sense organs waste a lot of energy; so they close the eyes for example for half of the year…

Guruji: what for?

so their hearing and sensing becomes better and they have more energy for practice

Guruji: but you don’t have to put stick band on your lips so you will not talk: it is from the mind

but it has sense?

Guruji: no. I’m very fortunate I’m not a Japanese. Too much Japanese system is not good for health. You know why? Zen buddhism was practiced there: Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the epicentres of zen buddhism. They all attained nirvana with atom bomb. So many earthquakes and tsunamis, why?

so if they practice correctly -nature will support them?

Guruji: if not correctly – nature will destroy them.

About shamanic traditions – for example, South American Indians, who are using different substances – then they can communicate with the dead ones or spirits?

Guruji: That is especially for the communication with the world of spirits.

What do You think – are they hallucinating or really communicating with the world of spirits?

Guruji: Some of them authentically can communicate. And I’m sure: they will never ever share their secrets with you – even though you look like an American Indian.

Are these substances suitable for the yogi?

Guruji: No. You will appear in the other world by your own power – not by the power of some herb.

One of the guys I’m working with – he tried ayahuasca and became a different person after that: he decided that his mind is his enemy and considers the herb itself as his mother.

Guruji: See what happens. I’ve already told you that no American Indian shaman could teach white person the real thing. Be careful. They could not forgive – and they should not forgive.

You don’t believe in white shamans who have learned from them?

Guruji: Most of them are idiots.

What is Your opinion – if Columbus did not reach America and came to India as he was planning – the Indians would suffer from the invaders?

Guruji: But they came to India – Vasco da Gama came; but we already suffered from Islamic invaders. Finally we were able to survive.

Everybody, no matter he is sadhu, or normal person or religious person – worried about the after life thing. Whether they will go to heaven or they remain closer to the god or what. The spiritual life is different. Religion is something you are worshipping some unknown god whom you have not seen; just by some priest or some mulla or some holy man are telling you about him or it is written in some book and you believe it, because it is human nature to have faith. We like to believe in supernatural things. So we believe and then we go through the hard way to please that unknown god – so he will grant us the access to his heaven. It’s very different thing. Spirituality is very different thing: spirituality means to make friends with your own spirit, to know first hands what is happen after death – that is spirituality. It is not the ambition to end up in heaven or in hell or to get liberation of this eternal cycle of birth and death. We would like to know, what is birth and what is death. When the spirit chooses to come into physical body – that is called birth and when the spirit chooses to leave the physical body – it is called death. So spiritual life is to actually be friends with your own spirit. And if you can not make even one spirit happy – then what you hope to achieve in life? Atma is spirit and Paramatma is the super whatever there is. So atma and Paramatma – the spirit and the super spirit. So if you can not make one spirit happy, then how the super spirit going to be happy? Go step by step. It is not I’m absolutely against religion but our subject is yoga and that is the only spiritual thing I know.

It’s very profound thing – he will comment because he’s expert in that. Look at all indian temples: the dome above the temple is look like a breast of a woman. Why it is so? Because inside a heart of a woman god really lives. So they have tried to inactive outside like that. The cavity of the heart when god lives is always dark, there is no electricity, and the particular power of the deity is really there. Then above it they create the statue which everybody can see – but inside the heart it remains close for others. And a dome is like a breast. That’s why it is said in India, that you ever must worship the woman, because god really lives inside their heart. Nowhere else you can find this concept. And to win the woman’s heart is nearly impossible.

I’ve seen it only one time in Benares – and she was quite an old lady – nearly 76 or 77. But no matter who come to her – the man or a child – the milk was coming out of her breast. And when she saw a person – I don’t tell you his name – suddenly her blouse became wet. She was the embodiment of mother. Just looking at the person the milk comes. It was motherly love, spiritually love – something. But that is an expression of a woman. A woman is the mother. She was very high spiritually. I think she was Bengali.

This is usually practice of hindu sadhus, who are sitting in public places and try to draw attention, especially non-indians. You have to be very careful with them. Even if they give you some amulet – be very careful. Put it in water somewhere. If he give you something – you will continue to remember that baba. It’s psychological trick. The real sadhu never sit in the cave in public place where tourists are going. Be careful: many magical things are involve in it, like vashikarana – you will continue to think on him. As a Guru and well-wisher this is my duty to say: always be very careful. It’s psychological thing: you will see that amulet – you will memorize him, you will take ash from him – you will remember him, and when you will come back to India again – you will come to visit him. And some dollars will flow.

The person, whose kula is not known to you, whose address is not known to you – always be careful with him.

Buddha was talking about the void – but he didn’t go further?

Guruji: He was also limited by the standard of his audience. My time is better.

Humanity will appreciate it in the future?

Guruji: When jesus was moving – he was beaten and crucified. Now we’re worshipping his crucified body: this is what humanity is doing. His audience was also fisherman's club.

When You see the disciple for the first time – can You see how he will progress?

Guruji: I have some ideas, yes. This is not for everybody.

WHO CREATED THE GOD?

what should I answer if children ask me who created god?

Guruji: devotees created god. god created men in his own image – and men created god in their own image. And men don’t think they are worthy of describing: so god is never described. All bad karmas will come to surface.

YOGI, SAINT, SON OF GOD

We cannot say that Jesus was a saint: he was a son of god- that makes him a very high person. Saints are those who suffer to please god; sometimes they received some grace from the god: those persons are called saints; and some miracles happened. Jesus was the directly son of god – so you cannot compare him.

but he was saint as well – because he was suffering

Guruji: no. god sent his own son to help humanity – and see how human beings treated his son. Be ashamed of it!

Guruji, yogis and the saints – they have different destinations or the same destination?

Guruji: no saint is talking about knowing your own soul. They are all ready to surrender their souls to the god. Yogis are talking to know it first: that is a very big difference. And I think this difference will remain. As I have said recently: most of the religions were born in the time of monarchy. Now we’re into democratic time. We need to think : whether these things are still valid or not. We need to discuss on this: maybe democracy will bring something absolutely different; maybe some powerful person will come or some avatar will come.

Who continue to worship the past, always looking back, loses their perspective on the present state. When present is gone – their future is also lost. We must learn from the past, improve our present and move towards the future . That is intelligent thing to do.

After knowing everything the question rises: who is knowing? After worshipping different gods the question should come: who is worshipping? And why? And the very different journey will begin with that.

One Russian asked me why Hindus don’t worship the creator Brahma? I told him that we cannot worship the creator who made so many mistakes in creation. That is the difference between Hinduism and other religions: all are worshipping creator as god. Hindus are worshipping different avatars and different aspect – but not creator, no more.

if nobody cares of person who will die?

Guruji: then the government will do as they think best to do. When you’re living in the society - better to be the part of the religion your parents are following. All religions are teaching you only good things; but by implementing that my way of going to god is better than yours differences are born. They all are teaching good things – but we complicating the things.

all religions are giving so many ideas about sins?

Guruji: even then you need to be an expert on what are sins – only then you can stay away from them. There was a priest, preaching; he gave a long sermon then he asked: to ask forgiveness from the god for our sins – what should we do? And the sound came from behind: we should commit sin first! O please, it’s a joke, don’t take it seriously.

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Stay away from sadhus!

Guruji: "In the morning, while changing clothes, I saw on TV lord Krishna playing with Gopis who were making Him dance to their tunes and threatening to tell on Him to mother Yashoda otherwise. While watching this, a thought crossed my mind: Lord Krishna never talked to a single sadhu or sanyasin his entire life! He always stayed around pure-hearted, opulent, householders but never any sadhus. Similarly, Lord Rama never talked with any sadhu his entire life. He did interact with rishis but they were householders. The only appearance of sadhus was when Sita-ji gave alms to one sadhu who came to their door during their exile, and see what happened afterward!

"This also means if gods didn't communicate to any sadhus while they were living here, what's the guarantee they'd be talking with them afterward? We should stay away from sadhus and sanyasis (renunciants). As my guruji used to say, 'One who couldn't be of his own, how can you expect him to be yours?'."

"Guruji, weren't rishis yogis?"

Guruji: "They were expert in rituals and had tantric powers. Not all rishis were yogis - some were. Rishis have just been vying to control the gods. The only stories you hear about them are how they got tempted by this nymph and that nymph. You wouldn't find such stories about yogis. That's probably people say that we are children of rishis and munis - they were always about impregnating some queen or seducing some princess (laughs). And they were so powerful that everybody had to abide.

"Vedas as filled with such stories. We should be glad that we are born in a time free of the shackles of vedas, thanks to Lord Krishna. The government has now banned cow-slaughter MP - the first thing Uma Bharti did as part of her new administration. In Chattisgarh as well. This is a good improvement.

That is the difference between Hinduism and Christianity: Christianity is saying – you were born in sin. Hinduism tells you were born free. Major difference, which are noticed: hindus don’t worship the creator, but in Christianity creator is worshipped. And we don’t need to baptize to be hindu.

That was one fantastic comics: the god must know what should I do in 20 years. If he’s god – he knows. But if he’s not disturbing me for doing that – why I’m responsible for what I’m done? If he already knows? Very philosophical question.

Basic concept is to serve in heaven. But people has been served in heaven, on a plate.

If you have some health problem – you will not go to the priest, you go to the doctor. How you can put so much faith in them about afterlife? I don’t understand.

now that worshipping also coming to an end?

Guruji: ISCON only – now much less americans is coming. Hare Krishna movement helped finishing the hippie movement. Most of the hippies begin to chant Hare Rama, Hare Krishna and that was the end of them. End of one thing and beginning of another.

what was the aim to stop hippie movement?

Guruji: many of them were really liberated people, they deserve to chant the name of the Lord, they came to Vrindavan; some of them were in old age and died here and they were cremating here according to the rituals of vaishnavs. Maybe it was another step forward in evolution of hippies. They were liberated in certain way – maybe this much were created only for them. They evolved so much. I’ve seen many old hippies here – they were Krishna devotees and living the very Spartan life, according to the rules. Yes, it was many businessmen – but it was many genuine devotees also. It was created for that genuine people. Whenever organization is built and some movement begins – the business is also connected with that, it’s the part of the game. Even yoga is big business now: about 30 billions now is involved – but the core will always remain the same. In the center of cyclone it’s absolute calm – only outside it’s big storm.

I think you remember the story when some followers of Prabhupada came here and I allow them to come; my very big bull was standing there. if I remember furtherly – it was some Bulgarian girls, Krishna devotees; there was one guy with them. I was standing near the bull and they asked – can we touch him? I said – if your heart is really full of love for Krishna, otherwise it’s very dangerous. and I saw it with my own eyes: 2-3 girls begin to weep and they embraced my bull – and he begin to lick them. That means their hearts were really full of devotion. Sincere people are everywhere – we should concentrate on them but on the superficial picture, which is usually discarded.

real Krishna devotees has a chance, but not muslims and Christians?

Guruji: they will lay and wait for the judgement’s day – I accept it literally and there is no argument on that. It is their choice and their devotion. They will be judged by the second coming of the Lord. Maybe they are the part of the big plan. Nothing happens by coincidence or by chance.

if we’re talking about sacrifices – was it any fish sacrifices in ancient times?

Guruji: never, not to a single god. I don’t recall any evidence. I think killing fish is even worse than killing surface dweller. Because we believe as the yogis, that sea creatures or the water creatures – they’re the most disciplined creatures of this planet. They never cross over to the land to kill you. Shark never going out – we go into the water to kill them. When the Apocalypse happens, water is rising, - no fish s threaten by, only surface dwellers. Whoever will break the discipline – will suffer.

people who eating fish think that fish has the very low level of consciousness?

Guruji: I have the doubts about their own level – it must be very low. Someone show me the record, where scientists are saying that simple monkeys have abilities to mathematics 20 times more than humans. We call them animals – but who is animal here? If we will starting behave like animals – the world is going to be a good place.

I remember one story I’ve read when I was young.

There was some so-called great king, who expand his borders – so it was so many wars there. He killed more then several thousands of soldiers of others and he was standing there, glorious. His soldiers caught one cannibal and took him to that king. They say – he was such an ugly person, he was trying to grab the dead body to eat it. And he used all bad words to that cannibal. Cannibal simply answered him: you kill all that persons – are you going to eat them? Why are you wasted them? The king was ashamed to hear that. You’re killing them just to prove something – but I’m killing only to eat. Men kills for power.

Since last 60 years I’m trying to find humanity – but I find only human beings. If you find it – please, inform me. Every religion gives you the false superiority that you’re the best creation of god. Because I’m chanting for Krishna – I’m the greatest, because you’re drinking the blood of jesus – you’re the greatest. It is all false ego, every religion is creating that.

There was some discussion, started. He said, I don't want to know God, then He gave me a lecture full of love, or God loves you, this, this. I said, I don't want to know God. He said, you should. I said, if God created me, that means God knows me. He said, of course, my child, God knows you. I said, that is enough for me if God knows me. I don't know if it's fine.

Q: "Then guruji what exactly is the feeling of the people of ISKCON who get overwhelmed while singing devotional songs. Are they also spiritually accomplished?"

Guruji: "See, this is again the same difference between the original and subsequent followers, as we discussed earlier. ISKCON is an extension of Gaudia sect, which is a cult of Bengali gaudias started by Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. The life-style of original vaishnavas as I have observed was extremely simple and were forever distant from commerce. But now-a-days, with ISKCON, the original culture has gotten buried under something entirely different and new. You should plan a visit to a vaishnava village, for example, Nadia village which was the birthplace of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and its surrounding areas. As yogis we should have awareness about these things.

"The gauriyas who went to stay in ashrams in an early age had to follow a very strict discipline. They had to chant “Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram Ram Hare Hare, Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare" 125,000 times every day. It didn’t matter how long it'd take, 4hrs, 6hrs, or even more. Now a person who is doing these many chants everyday and following an extreme diet along with offering his devotion and work to God, how can he not develop strong bhava (divine emotion) in his heart?

"The second kind of vaishnavas are grihasta (householders) who far exceed in number the ones living in ashrams (hermits). They mainly belong to the Bengal region. I am telling you, the way they talk with you is so sweet, they'll win over your heart! And they won't even try to convert you! You will find the sweetest people in that region. The gauriya cult was the most beautiful region ever before the coming of ISKCON, and it still is beautiful as the original vaishnavas do not have any strong ties with ISKCON. Only those vaishnavas who are materially inclined get in touch with ISKCON. Others are the homeless gauriyas who cook food for them. So I must say that some of the principles are still followed in ISKCON, like only the gauriyas can cook food for them. But otherwise the simplicity in the lifestyle, which was the main characteristic of vaishnavas, is nowhere to be seen in ISKCON followers. You should definitely observe that and you will love it.

"I still remember a family from my childhood (around 30yrs back). The man of the family was a vaishnava and lived in Vrindawan. His son was going to America for his PhD in Atomic Physics. They used to have around 15-20 cows and they fed them raw barley everyday. They would make their roti (Indian bread) out of the raw barley grains passed in the the cow-dung! They'd separate the grains from the dung, clean them, dry them, and grind them into flour to make rotis. This is such an amazing thing to know! I didn’t understand it when I was a child but now when I look back I am awestruck by their simplicity. Imagine the boy, who was so well educated and going aboard for higher education, who used to carry hay along with his wife for the cows and clean their dung. You couldn’t guess how highly educated they were by looking at their simplistic lifestyle. They were the nicest people I have ever met in my life! They also had this everyday routine of doing a certain chant. The father of that boy had become a complete renunciate, and thus he was following the strict rules of the vaishnavas who become hermits after following the life of a householder. Even today I get emotional when I think about him. This is what I call real life! So full of simplicity, having no demands at all! The old man is no more now and I am not sure about the whereabouts of his son. But I am highly confident that his roots and principles were so strong that he must be doing good wherever he is living right now and following the same kind of simple life even now. He went abroad for 5 years along with his wife, and both of them were highly educated.

"So this was the real beauty of the original vaishnavas, their utter simplicity. Now with outside influence, that beauty is getting lost and is not seen very often. But even today if you go visit some of the vaishnava villages, you’ll love it there. Nadiya village and a few areas in Vraj still have that feeling of pure simplicity and devotion. ISKCON is just a fashionable part of it that became popular. Here people go to ISKCON to see foreigners offering prayers and singing songs.

"Like that, there's a place here in Vraj called Tatiya Sthan, founded by Swami Haridas. I have also met their previous mahant (leader, principal) who is not living anymore. This place is still what it was 500-600 years back when it was founded. Even today they don't have any electricity or water pipes, and every single tree is very old and maintained to look the same as before. They are also following the same routine as laid down by their founder. There is a very positive and weird feeling about the place. You feel completely at peace in your heart the moment you step inside that place. Amazing stuff!"

Q: "Guruji, how could they follow such strict discipline?"

Guruji: "It’s a matter of love. The people of Tatiya Sthana still live as sadhus (hermits) and their discipline is very different from the householder vaishnavas. The man from my childhood I told you about was following all the principles of householders before he took renunciation. He was married, educated, kept a job, and supported his family. But after he took renunciation, he followed the rules of the hermit stage. The brilliance and peace on his face was just amazing to see, and I still remember it. It was simply wonderful.

"I understand ISKCON has propagated itself a lot, and has built beautiful showcase kind of structures as their temples. They have also propagated Srimad Bhagwatam, this vatam, and that vatam, about which we get to hear a lot on the television also, but I don’t find that mesmerizing beauty in it that the original had.

"But then again there is another interesting thing. There are a lot of foreigners living in Vrindavan who have decided to take their last breath there. They have come to Vrindavan to die only! So how can I say that ISKCON followers don’t have any spiritual feelings? You’ll find good people in them also. But the commercial majority in ISKCON is what I find unappealing. Formerly there was no commerce in the name of Krishna. The devotees were simply devotees."

God knows me

I’ll tell you the whole incident. One priest came to me. And he was trying to convert me into christianity, he wanted me to become a christian. And a dialogue followed: he was full of love and all these things and he so much queried – don’t you want to know God, and this, and that… there was some discussion started.

I said: I don’t want to know God – then he give me the lecture, full of love, that God loves you.

I said I don’t want to know God.

He said: Why? You should!

Q: I think what we’re discussing are not actually religion or devotion – it’s all about higher powers?

Guruji: yes

Q: to overcome all the old types of relationships and worship, which were existed in families, like all ancestors worship – it must be changed?

Guruji: I think it’s already done. What I’ve noticed in my surroundings – younger generation now are asking very deep and intelligent questions. They are even questioning the ancient traditions. And if you don’t know about it – how can you answer? First you need find the answer yourself, then only you can give the answer to some young men. Previously even to ask the question took a lot of courage – because you will be scolded and criticized, how you’re idiotic to ask such questions. I’m always open for discussions.

I IS THE WAY

…the I inside is the only way which will take you beyond everything. Refer to this line compare it – when your conscious mind will be unconscious and your subconscious mind will be conscious and it will be centered here. And remember this feeling “I” which actually coming from there. So Jesus, when he said “I am the way” – he may mean “I is the way”, he was referring to the centering. Generally the translation into English is “I am the way” – Jesus said it. It is very simple: in normal translation, normal grammatical way they will connect “I” with “am”, “I am the way”. But when he tell as a separate thing that “I is the way” – you know your “I” and you will find the way. Very simple to me to understand.

Q: but Jesus didn’t give any technics to reach this state of consciousness…

Guruji: “I” is inside you. Do you think, all the fisherman club was ready to practice some very technical and mystical things?

Q: but why he said this to them?

Guruji: it was needed at that time. Otherwise they will continue to be fish dealers. Finally their imagination created the religion around it. Somebody after 2000 years will come to understand, at least they recorded it.

Q: but how his disciples could do so much miracles even after his death, if they were not know any technics and without any development? Only by his blessing?

Guruji: yes, if you are connected with some supernatural power many miracles are possible. You don’t have to be very educated to perform miracles.

Q: what do you think – could Jesus have the real disciple, who was able to understand?

Guruji: you must remember the businessman, who came forward to claim the body of Jesus. This was the duty of the real disciple or a real friend or a fellow disciple. No fisherman came forward to claim his body. They never even came forward to give him water, like good Samaritan did, when he was carrying his crux. We must find out the real identity of this businessman came forward to claim his body. In bible nothing mentioned about it. Only that he came and claim.

Q: maybe you have an idea why Maria show everybody the egg like the approvement of his existence?

Guruji: maybe it was her own egg, and after some time it became a symbol. Because only her egg was able to create Jesus. We are all created by egg. Egg also look like Shivalingam – maybe she try to show them Shivalingam and they were took it as an egg.

… many people are discussing about magic: black magic, white magic, this magic, that magic… but what I observe: that all religion were started by some sort of magic. Because in every religion the founder or who is been worshipped was displaying miracles. Maybe those miracles we are blaming that it was god’s grace but maybe they was because of to magic. Because true magician can also create miracles. I say that all religions are based on magic. And if you will think with the very open mind and with different objective point of view you will also agree with me.