Govardhan, granthis and daily practice Говардхан, грантхи и ежедневная практика Public source transcript / Публичный текст источника Personal exchanges omitted. Original witnesses are preserved privately. Draft wording, speaker uncertainty and chronology are retained. Личные разговоры исключены. Оригиналы сохранены частно. Сохранены черновые формулировки, неопределённая атрибуция и порядок реплик. Recording: 18 · Date: 2026-10-01T15:20:06.188563+05:30 Timestamps below are source/previously edited recording markers, not playable links or verified cut boundaries. KEY POINTS - Govardhan, a rescued antelope and tree planting form the opening recollections. - Learning another language is encouraged as part of developing the mind. - Untying a granthi is explained as understanding a mystery, not undoing a physical knot. - Sustained practice, learning through questions and time for solitude shape the later conversation. ОСНОВНЫЕ МЫСЛИ - Начальные воспоминания посвящены Говардхану, спасённой антилопе и посадке деревьев. - Изучение другого языка поощряется как часть развития ума. - Развязывание грантхи объясняется как понимание тайны, а не устранение физического узла. - Дальнейшая беседа посвящена длительной практике, учению через вопросы и времени для уединения. === ORIGINAL === निजी बातचीत सार्वजनिक संस्करण से हटाई गई है। 16. 4:51–5:06 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Govardhan is very different. [Brief overlap.] No big gurus here; only Govardhan Hill is here, and the devotees of Govardhan will come. निजी बातचीत सार्वजनिक संस्करण से हटाई गई है। 18. 5:11–5:41 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] There is very high energy here. [Pause.] For me this is the best place in creation. Nowhere else will you find such a place. निजी बातचीत सार्वजनिक संस्करण से हटाई गई है। 23. 6:35–7:23 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] She can come, but be careful of cobras, pythons, hyenas and antelopes. I had an antelope here for three or four years. My workers rescued him from a hunter [wording unclear], very small. He lived with us for four years. Fully grown, he would come inside and demand toast or something; only then he would go out. We had many photographs. Then he began to attack outside people. The forest department came and took him away. 24. 7:23–8:18 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Show her my photographs. [Replies unclear.] He was a full-grown male. You will never see a guru standing with an [antelope?]. [Further exchange unclear.] We rescued him. 25. 8:18–8:21 (original source) [Speaker unclear — remark/context] This may be ten years before. [Speaker uncertain.] 26. 8:21–8:26 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] Do some animals keep coming? [Question wording uncertain.] 27. 8:26–9:00 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Yes, only some monkeys. On my plantation we have a huge plantation; we planted [number unclear] trees. Out of that [number unclear] berry trees are only for [monkeys?]. It is like a jungle now. [Closing exchange unclear.] 28. 9:00–10:00 (original source) [अस्पष्ट; विश्वसनीय संवाद नहीं मिला।] 29. 10:00–10:13 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] [प्रश्न अस्पष्ट; कृष्ण? / psychological? शब्द सुनाई देने का ASR अनुमान।] 30. 10:13–11:00 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] [खंडित पाठ] व्यास… compiler… महाभारत… dictate… गणेश जी… compilation… [वाक्य अस्पष्ट; शब्दों को पूरा कथन न समझें।] 31. 15:00–15:37 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] If you do not want to attract criminals’ attention, use white. If you want to attract criminals’ attention, use gold. [Response unclear.] 32. 15:37–15:42 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] [Name uncertain] asks whether he needs to study Hindi for practice. 33. 15:42–15:47 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] It is a good idea. 34. 15:47–15:49 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] How will it help? 35. 15:49–16:03 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Psychologically, if you know more than one language, your mind works better and faster. We are all for developing your mind, so it will help. 36. 16:03–16:20 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] Guruji, why do we need granthis? [Brief clarification.] 37. 16:20–16:26 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Granthi also means a riddle, a mystery. 38. 16:26–16:30 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] So it somehow keeps our consciousness in [unclear]… 39. 16:30–16:39 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] That is the riddle of the brain and the heart and [unclear], and also of the mūlādhāra. These are very great mysteries. 40. 16:39–16:44 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] But why do we need this mystery? 41. 16:44–16:53 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] They are there. We need to understand them, unravel them, discover what is hiding there. Only then some wisdom will come your way. 42. 16:53–17:04 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] But it somehow helps us to be on this earth, because otherwise we would not have this [unclear], and energy would go straight [unclear]. 43. 17:04–17:17 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Then there would be no fun in the game. Even vāsanās are good. They provide entertainment for gods and human beings also. 44. 17:17–17:19 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] And these vāsanās and [saṃskāras?]… 45. 17:19–17:29 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] We are not monks. I have said nothing against vāsanās. But too much of anything is [unclear]. That is it. 46. 17:29–17:33 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] But it still takes our prāṇa… 47. 17:33–17:42 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] If you have no vāsanā, even then you are not immortal; your prāṇa [unclear]. 48. 17:42–17:49 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] When we are born, we all have different structures of these [unclear]… 49. 17:49–18:30 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] It depends on your previous karma, what type of genetics, DNA and body you will [have?]. Naturally it differs from person to person. I think [first name unclear] Orwell wrote in Animal Farm: all pigs are equal, but some are more equal than others. That is the truth. 50. 18:30–18:41 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] And when we [question unclear]… 51. 18:41–19:01 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] It is a very big achievement to understand the true nature of a granthi, to untie the mystery, understand it and find the truth hidden inside. It is a great achievement. 52. 19:01–19:14 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] Is it ruled by those three gods? [Names unclear.] But when you untie it, you somehow… 53. 19:14–19:34 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Untie means unravel. When you begin to see the mystery, that is unraveling, untying. It is a figure of speech, but people took it literally. It is not literal. 54. 19:34–19:44 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] It is described as tight, and there is no straight flow of energy. 55. 19:44–19:52 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] When [unclear] go to the West and start teaching, then in their translation so many [unclear]. 56. 19:52–19:58 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] Does that mean our mind is also tied to that granthi? 57. 19:58–20:34 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] It is a granthi; it is not a granthi, it is a master gland in a way. [Phrase unclear] 98% is sleeping. You need to wake up the giant. All those granthis and mysteries are a process to wake up the giant. You need to prepare many things before waking him. If he has slept so long, after waking he will demand food. What will you supply? You need to prepare everything. 58. 20:34–20:37 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] We do not even know what type of food… 59. 20:37–20:44 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Only when you learn the mysteries of the different granthis will you realise. 60. 20:44–20:50 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] But what is the tool for trying to understand the mystery of granthis, if the main tool is still [unclear]? 61. 20:50–21:29 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Two percent is enough if you use 100% of that two percent. No, we use only two percent of that two percent. First learn to use 100% of that two percent, and you will start to see beyond. I think besides me no one is talking like that. Who will? Only one who has achieved the mystery, who understood. Understanding itself is a big achievement. 62. 21:29–21:44 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] I am a simple man, practicing yoga for 44 years. I have done nothing else: no job, no business. 63. 21:44–21:54 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] I know nobody as simple as you are, Guruji. Who has a regular schedule for 44 years? 64. 21:54–22:05 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Out of those 44 years, for the last 33 years I have lived in a cremation [ground?], without going out, which you may have noticed for some time. 65. 22:05–22:16 (original source) [Speaker unclear — remark/context] [Short exchange about another person unclear.] Only perhaps someone who has been a prisoner for [number unclear] years. 66. 22:16–22:42 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Are we not prisoners of our own limitations, misconceptions and idiotic ideas? We are prisoners of them. It is even worse. There is only one plus point I find in being a prisoner: food and medical treatment are free. 67. 22:42–22:46 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] But then you can practice your sādhana every day. 68. 22:46–23:14 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] No, you must follow prison rules; they will not let you practice. [Short replies unclear.] You cannot do yoga there, but you can work out. Here they even removed [exercise equipment?], because they were fighting and killing each other with it. 69. 23:14–23:20 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] If you teach others yoga, then you can practice together? 70. 23:20–23:24 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Maybe, but it is very difficult [ending unclear]. 71. 23:24–23:59 (original source) [Speaker unclear — remark/context] [Further exchange about duration and purpose unclear.] 72. 23:59–24:13 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] I found out when I was 22 years old what I would do, and I have done nothing else. 73. 24:13–24:21 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] It is a big blessing for people who come here to learn from your personal experience [ending unclear]. 74. 24:21–24:30 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] It is my privilege to share what I have discovered and experienced. 75. 24:30–24:37 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] Guruji, what is the secret? Why are you still not annoyed, not tired of this? 76. 24:37–24:39 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Of what? 77. 24:39–24:44 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] Every day meeting people, talking to them, talking to our ignorance. 78. 24:44–25:30 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] I am not a school teacher. Every person is a unique personality. No one was like you before in creation, and no one will come like you after you. Everybody carries something special, an essence from the Creator. When different people come and talk, I also learn in the process. I have been asked thousands of questions, so my ability to answer has also developed. It is okay. I become bored when people ask idiotic things just out of curiosity. Sometimes it is entertaining, but not that entertaining. 79. 25:30–25:37 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] But do you not need to be with yourself? Your nervous system is so strong that you do not need to rest? 80. 25:37–25:39 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] I am always with myself. 81. 25:39–25:41 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] Even with people? 82. 25:41–25:43 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] I am always with myself. 83. 25:43–25:50 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] Ordinary people, I need sometimes… [unclear]. 84. 25:50–26:20 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] You see my daily [routine?]. I come down after three, and until 11:30 I am available. Then from 11:30 to the next three o’clock I am alone. How much time do you need? In between my dogs come to rescue me, so I am with my dogs for [duration unclear]. They make me feel good. 85. 26:20–26:27 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] Finding joy in the same routine is a big achievement. 86. 26:27–26:37 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] I was not searching for joy, but I discovered wisdom is the real entertainment [ending unclear]. 87. 26:37–26:50 (original source) [Speaker unclear — remark/context] [Brief reply / pause.] निजी बातचीत सार्वजनिक संस्करण से हटाई गई है। 89. 27:07–27:20 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] You can have lunch here; it is free, and chai also. My mother used to laugh that everybody comes for a free cup of chai, so I added free lunch also. 90. 27:20–27:23 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] Now they come to sit in [air conditioning?]. 91. 27:23–27:28 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] In summertime it is a big relief for anyone. निजी बातचीत सार्वजनिक संस्करण से हटाई गई है। 97. 28:32–28:38 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] I heard this finger is [unclear]. What do you think? 98. 28:38–28:42 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] That is what they write in palmistry and astrology also. 99. 28:42–28:47 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] Why can we not chant a mantra like this? [Gesture not visible in audio.] 100. 28:47–29:20 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Muslims do it like this or like this. [Overlap unclear.] Showing this finger is highly insulting. Like this, it would be a highly insulting gesture from me to you. Doing this is not recommended. This finger is usually used [gesture unclear]. Muslims do it like this or with this. 101. 29:20–29:52 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] You will agree it is an impact of Hinduism. Christians use a rosary, Muslims use a rosary. We were the first to use it. Hindus have done it for thousands of years. [Fragment unclear.] Why did Christianity take it from us? Why do fathers and different people count beads? Why do Muslims count beads, what for? 102. 29:52–30:00 (original source) [Speaker unclear — remark/context] [Reply and gesture references unclear.] 103. 30:00–30:15 (original source) [Speaker unclear — remark/context] [Right-hand / gesture exchange unclear.] 104. 30:15–30:35 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] In India some magic uses this finger. They do magic, point it, and he will remove his clothes and start dancing. It is just to be safe. If somebody points it, they say, “No, do not do it.” [Humorous context; gesture unclear.] 105. 30:35–31:09 (original source) [Speaker unclear — remark/context] You need practice for anything. My God, you reminded me of interesting magic. I will try to learn it. [Hat / chicken anecdote unrecovered; speaker unclear.] 106. 31:09–31:12 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] But you can bless us with this finger. 107. 31:12–31:22 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] [Phrase unclear] the finger of God. Even Michelangelo did it like this, this finger. 108. 31:22–31:49 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] How many fingers do you have? Everybody says five. But we have four fingers and one thumb. Everybody says five. 109. 31:49–32:14 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] Why [question unclear]? Some people wear a diamond on the thumb. 110. 32:14–33:00 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] In India, so many things. [Pause.] They say this is the mount of Venus. A diamond is to give more power to Venus, so they put the ring on the thumb. You will see many varieties. [Short exchange unclear.] 111. 33:00–33:12 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] We started our discussion with granthis, and now we have reached the thumb level. Now what? निजी बातचीत सार्वजनिक संस्करण से हटाई गई है। === EN === Personal exchange withheld from the public edition. 16. 4:51–5:06 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Govardhan is very different. [Brief overlap.] No big gurus here; only Govardhan Hill is here, and the devotees of Govardhan will come. Personal exchange withheld from the public edition. 18. 5:11–5:41 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] There is very high energy here. [Pause.] For me this is the best place in creation. Nowhere else will you find such a place. Personal exchange withheld from the public edition. 23. 6:35–7:23 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] She can come, but be careful of cobras, pythons, hyenas and antelopes. I had an antelope here for three or four years. My workers rescued him from a hunter [wording unclear], very small. He lived with us for four years. Fully grown, he would come inside and demand toast or something; only then he would go out. We had many photographs. Then he began to attack outside people. The forest department came and took him away. 24. 7:23–8:18 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Show her my photographs. [Replies unclear.] He was a full-grown male. You will never see a guru standing with an [antelope?]. [Further exchange unclear.] We rescued him. 25. 8:18–8:21 (original source) [Speaker unclear — remark/context] This may be ten years before. [Speaker uncertain.] 26. 8:21–8:26 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] Do some animals keep coming? [Question wording uncertain.] 27. 8:26–9:00 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Yes, only some monkeys. On my plantation we have a huge plantation; we planted [number unclear] trees. Out of that [number unclear] berry trees are only for [monkeys?]. It is like a jungle now. [Closing exchange unclear.] 28. 9:00–10:00 (original source) [Unclear; no reliable dialogue recovered.] 29. 10:00–10:13 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] [Question unclear; ASR suggests “Kṛṣṇa?” / “psychological?”; wording unverified.] 30. 10:13–11:00 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] [Fragmentary reading] Vyāsa… compiler… Mahābhārata… dictate… Gaṇeśa… compilation… [Sentence unrecovered; these words are not a complete statement.] 31. 15:00–15:37 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] If you do not want to attract criminals’ attention, use white. If you want to attract criminals’ attention, use gold. [Response unclear.] 32. 15:37–15:42 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] [Name uncertain] asks whether he needs to study Hindi for practice. 33. 15:42–15:47 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] It is a good idea. 34. 15:47–15:49 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] How will it help? 35. 15:49–16:03 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Psychologically, if you know more than one language, your mind works better and faster. We are all for developing your mind, so it will help. 36. 16:03–16:20 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] Guruji, why do we need granthis? [Brief clarification.] 37. 16:20–16:26 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Granthi also means a riddle, a mystery. 38. 16:26–16:30 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] So it somehow keeps our consciousness in [unclear]… 39. 16:30–16:39 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] That is the riddle of the brain and the heart and [unclear], and also of the mūlādhāra. These are very great mysteries. 40. 16:39–16:44 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] But why do we need this mystery? 41. 16:44–16:53 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] They are there. We need to understand them, unravel them, discover what is hiding there. Only then some wisdom will come your way. 42. 16:53–17:04 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] But it somehow helps us to be on this earth, because otherwise we would not have this [unclear], and energy would go straight [unclear]. 43. 17:04–17:17 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Then there would be no fun in the game. Even vāsanās are good. They provide entertainment for gods and human beings also. 44. 17:17–17:19 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] And these vāsanās and [saṃskāras?]… 45. 17:19–17:29 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] We are not monks. I have said nothing against vāsanās. But too much of anything is [unclear]. That is it. 46. 17:29–17:33 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] But it still takes our prāṇa… 47. 17:33–17:42 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] If you have no vāsanā, even then you are not immortal; your prāṇa [unclear]. 48. 17:42–17:49 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] When we are born, we all have different structures of these [unclear]… 49. 17:49–18:30 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] It depends on your previous karma, what type of genetics, DNA and body you will [have?]. Naturally it differs from person to person. I think [first name unclear] Orwell wrote in Animal Farm: all pigs are equal, but some are more equal than others. That is the truth. 50. 18:30–18:41 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] And when we [question unclear]… 51. 18:41–19:01 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] It is a very big achievement to understand the true nature of a granthi, to untie the mystery, understand it and find the truth hidden inside. It is a great achievement. 52. 19:01–19:14 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] Is it ruled by those three gods? [Names unclear.] But when you untie it, you somehow… 53. 19:14–19:34 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Untie means unravel. When you begin to see the mystery, that is unraveling, untying. It is a figure of speech, but people took it literally. It is not literal. 54. 19:34–19:44 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] It is described as tight, and there is no straight flow of energy. 55. 19:44–19:52 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] When [unclear] go to the West and start teaching, then in their translation so many [unclear]. 56. 19:52–19:58 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] Does that mean our mind is also tied to that granthi? 57. 19:58–20:34 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] It is a granthi; it is not a granthi, it is a master gland in a way. [Phrase unclear] 98% is sleeping. You need to wake up the giant. All those granthis and mysteries are a process to wake up the giant. You need to prepare many things before waking him. If he has slept so long, after waking he will demand food. What will you supply? You need to prepare everything. 58. 20:34–20:37 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] We do not even know what type of food… 59. 20:37–20:44 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Only when you learn the mysteries of the different granthis will you realise. 60. 20:44–20:50 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] But what is the tool for trying to understand the mystery of granthis, if the main tool is still [unclear]? 61. 20:50–21:29 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Two percent is enough if you use 100% of that two percent. No, we use only two percent of that two percent. First learn to use 100% of that two percent, and you will start to see beyond. I think besides me no one is talking like that. Who will? Only one who has achieved the mystery, who understood. Understanding itself is a big achievement. 62. 21:29–21:44 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] I am a simple man, practicing yoga for 44 years. I have done nothing else: no job, no business. 63. 21:44–21:54 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] I know nobody as simple as you are, Guruji. Who has a regular schedule for 44 years? 64. 21:54–22:05 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Out of those 44 years, for the last 33 years I have lived in a cremation [ground?], without going out, which you may have noticed for some time. 65. 22:05–22:16 (original source) [Speaker unclear — remark/context] [Short exchange about another person unclear.] Only perhaps someone who has been a prisoner for [number unclear] years. 66. 22:16–22:42 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Are we not prisoners of our own limitations, misconceptions and idiotic ideas? We are prisoners of them. It is even worse. There is only one plus point I find in being a prisoner: food and medical treatment are free. 67. 22:42–22:46 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] But then you can practice your sādhana every day. 68. 22:46–23:14 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] No, you must follow prison rules; they will not let you practice. [Short replies unclear.] You cannot do yoga there, but you can work out. Here they even removed [exercise equipment?], because they were fighting and killing each other with it. 69. 23:14–23:20 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] If you teach others yoga, then you can practice together? 70. 23:20–23:24 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Maybe, but it is very difficult [ending unclear]. 71. 23:24–23:59 (original source) [Speaker unclear — remark/context] [Further exchange about duration and purpose unclear.] 72. 23:59–24:13 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] I found out when I was 22 years old what I would do, and I have done nothing else. 73. 24:13–24:21 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] It is a big blessing for people who come here to learn from your personal experience [ending unclear]. 74. 24:21–24:30 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] It is my privilege to share what I have discovered and experienced. 75. 24:30–24:37 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] Guruji, what is the secret? Why are you still not annoyed, not tired of this? 76. 24:37–24:39 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Of what? 77. 24:39–24:44 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] Every day meeting people, talking to them, talking to our ignorance. 78. 24:44–25:30 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] I am not a school teacher. Every person is a unique personality. No one was like you before in creation, and no one will come like you after you. Everybody carries something special, an essence from the Creator. When different people come and talk, I also learn in the process. I have been asked thousands of questions, so my ability to answer has also developed. It is okay. I become bored when people ask idiotic things just out of curiosity. Sometimes it is entertaining, but not that entertaining. 79. 25:30–25:37 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] But do you not need to be with yourself? Your nervous system is so strong that you do not need to rest? 80. 25:37–25:39 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] I am always with myself. 81. 25:39–25:41 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] Even with people? 82. 25:41–25:43 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] I am always with myself. 83. 25:43–25:50 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] Ordinary people, I need sometimes… [unclear]. 84. 25:50–26:20 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] You see my daily [routine?]. I come down after three, and until 11:30 I am available. Then from 11:30 to the next three o’clock I am alone. How much time do you need? In between my dogs come to rescue me, so I am with my dogs for [duration unclear]. They make me feel good. 85. 26:20–26:27 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] Finding joy in the same routine is a big achievement. 86. 26:27–26:37 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] I was not searching for joy, but I discovered wisdom is the real entertainment [ending unclear]. 87. 26:37–26:50 (original source) [Speaker unclear — remark/context] [Brief reply / pause.] Personal exchange withheld from the public edition. 89. 27:07–27:20 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] You can have lunch here; it is free, and chai also. My mother used to laugh that everybody comes for a free cup of chai, so I added free lunch also. 90. 27:20–27:23 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] Now they come to sit in [air conditioning?]. 91. 27:23–27:28 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] In summertime it is a big relief for anyone. Personal exchange withheld from the public edition. 97. 28:32–28:38 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] I heard this finger is [unclear]. What do you think? 98. 28:38–28:42 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] That is what they write in palmistry and astrology also. 99. 28:42–28:47 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] Why can we not chant a mantra like this? [Gesture not visible in audio.] 100. 28:47–29:20 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] Muslims do it like this or like this. [Overlap unclear.] Showing this finger is highly insulting. Like this, it would be a highly insulting gesture from me to you. Doing this is not recommended. This finger is usually used [gesture unclear]. Muslims do it like this or with this. 101. 29:20–29:52 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] You will agree it is an impact of Hinduism. Christians use a rosary, Muslims use a rosary. We were the first to use it. Hindus have done it for thousands of years. [Fragment unclear.] Why did Christianity take it from us? Why do fathers and different people count beads? Why do Muslims count beads, what for? 102. 29:52–30:00 (original source) [Speaker unclear — remark/context] [Reply and gesture references unclear.] 103. 30:00–30:15 (original source) [Speaker unclear — remark/context] [Right-hand / gesture exchange unclear.] 104. 30:15–30:35 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] In India some magic uses this finger. They do magic, point it, and he will remove his clothes and start dancing. It is just to be safe. If somebody points it, they say, “No, do not do it.” [Humorous context; gesture unclear.] 105. 30:35–31:09 (original source) [Speaker unclear — remark/context] You need practice for anything. My God, you reminded me of interesting magic. I will try to learn it. [Hat / chicken anecdote unrecovered; speaker unclear.] 106. 31:09–31:12 (original source) [Disciple — remark/reply; attribution tentative] But you can bless us with this finger. 107. 31:12–31:22 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] [Phrase unclear] the finger of God. Even Michelangelo did it like this, this finger. 108. 31:22–31:49 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] How many fingers do you have? Everybody says five. But we have four fingers and one thumb. Everybody says five. 109. 31:49–32:14 (original source) [Disciple — question; attribution tentative] Why [question unclear]? Some people wear a diamond on the thumb. 110. 32:14–33:00 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] In India, so many things. [Pause.] They say this is the mount of Venus. A diamond is to give more power to Venus, so they put the ring on the thumb. You will see many varieties. [Short exchange unclear.] 111. 33:00–33:12 (original source) [Likely Guruji; attribution tentative] We started our discussion with granthis, and now we have reached the thumb level. Now what? Personal exchange withheld from the public edition. === RU === Личный разговор исключён из публичной версии. 16. 4:51–5:06 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Говардхан совсем другой. [Краткое наложение голосов.] Здесь нет больших гуру; здесь только холм Говардхан, и приходят его преданные. Личный разговор исключён из публичной версии. 18. 5:11–5:41 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Здесь очень высокая энергия. [Пауза.] Для меня это лучшее место в творении. Нигде больше вы не найдёте такого места. Личный разговор исключён из публичной версии. 23. 6:35–7:23 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Она может приехать, но осторожнее с кобрами, питонами, гиенами и антилопами. У меня здесь три-четыре года жила антилопа. Работники спасли её совсем маленькой от охотника [слова неясны]. Она прожила с нами четыре года. Взрослой заходила внутрь и требовала тост или что-нибудь; только потом выходила. У нас много фотографий. Потом стала нападать на посторонних. Лесное ведомство приехало и забрало её. 24. 7:23–8:18 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Покажите ей мои фотографии. [Ответы неразборчивы.] Это был взрослый самец. Вы никогда не увидите гуру, стоящего с [антилопой?]. [Далее неразборчиво.] Мы его спасли. 25. 8:18–8:21 (original source) [Говорящий не установлен — замечание/контекст] Это, возможно, было десять лет назад. [Говорящий не установлен.] 26. 8:21–8:26 (original source) [Ученик — вопрос; предположительно] Продолжают приходить какие-то животные? [Формулировка вопроса неясна.] 27. 8:26–9:00 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Да, только некоторые обезьяны. У нас огромные посадки; мы посадили [число неясно] деревьев. Из них [число неясно] ягодных деревьев только для [обезьян?]. Теперь это как джунгли. [Конец разговора неразборчив.] 28. 9:00–10:00 (original source) [Неразборчиво; надёжный диалог не восстановлен.] 29. 10:00–10:13 (original source) [Ученик — вопрос; предположительно] [Вопрос неразборчив; ASR предполагает «Кришна?» / «психологический?»; не проверено.] 30. 10:13–11:00 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] [Фрагменты] Вьяса… составитель… Махабхарата… продиктовать… Ганеша… составление… [Предложение не восстановлено; слова не являются полным утверждением.] 31. 15:00–15:37 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Если не хотите привлекать внимание преступников, используйте белый. Если хотите — золото. [Ответ неразборчив.] 32. 15:37–15:42 (original source) [Ученик — вопрос; предположительно] [Имя неясно] спрашивает, нужно ли ему изучать хинди для практики. 33. 15:42–15:47 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Это хорошая идея. 34. 15:47–15:49 (original source) [Ученик — вопрос; предположительно] Как это поможет? 35. 15:49–16:03 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] С психологической точки зрения, если знаете больше одного языка, ум работает лучше и быстрее. Мы за развитие ума, поэтому это поможет. 36. 16:03–16:20 (original source) [Ученик — вопрос; предположительно] Гуруджи, зачем нам нужны грантхи? [Краткое уточнение.] 37. 16:20–16:26 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Грантхи также означает загадку, тайну. 38. 16:26–16:30 (original source) [Ученик — замечание/ответ; предположительно] То есть это как-то удерживает сознание в [неясно]… 39. 16:30–16:39 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Это загадка мозга, сердца и [неясно], а также муладхары. Это очень великие тайны. 40. 16:39–16:44 (original source) [Ученик — вопрос; предположительно] Но зачем нам нужна эта тайна? 41. 16:44–16:53 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Они существуют. Нужно понять их, разгадать, открыть скрытое в них. Только тогда к вам придёт какая-то мудрость. 42. 16:53–17:04 (original source) [Ученик — замечание/ответ; предположительно] Но это как-то помогает нам быть на этой земле, иначе не было бы этого [неясно], и энергия шла бы прямо [неясно]. 43. 17:04–17:17 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Тогда в игре не было бы веселья. Даже васаны хороши. Они развлекают и богов, и людей. 44. 17:17–17:19 (original source) [Ученик — замечание/ответ; предположительно] А эти васаны и [самскары?]… 45. 17:19–17:29 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Мы не монахи. Я ничего не говорил против васан. Но слишком много чего угодно — [неясно]. Вот и всё. 46. 17:29–17:33 (original source) [Ученик — замечание/ответ; предположительно] Но это всё же забирает нашу прану… 47. 17:33–17:42 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Даже если у вас нет васаны, вы всё равно не бессмертны; ваша прана [неясно]. 48. 17:42–17:49 (original source) [Ученик — замечание/ответ; предположительно] Когда мы рождаемся, у всех разное устройство этих [неясно]… 49. 17:49–18:30 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] От предыдущей кармы зависит, какая генетика, ДНК и тело у вас [будут?]. Это различается от человека к человеку. Думаю, [имя неясно] Оруэлл написал в «Скотном дворе»: все свиньи равны, но некоторые равнее других. Это правда. 50. 18:30–18:41 (original source) [Ученик — вопрос; предположительно] А когда мы [вопрос неразборчив]… 51. 18:41–19:01 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Понять истинную природу грантхи — большое достижение: разгадать тайну, понять её и найти скрытую внутри истину. 52. 19:01–19:14 (original source) [Ученик — вопрос; предположительно] Этим управляют те три бога? [Имена неясны.] Но когда развязываешь это, как-то… 53. 19:14–19:34 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Развязать означает разгадать. Когда начинаешь видеть тайну, это и есть разгадка, развязывание. Это образ речи, но люди поняли его буквально. Это не буквально. 54. 19:34–19:44 (original source) [Ученик — замечание/ответ; предположительно] Это описывают как тугой узел, и нет прямого потока энергии. 55. 19:44–19:52 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Когда [неясно] едут на Запад и начинают учить, в переводе так много [неясно]. 56. 19:52–19:58 (original source) [Ученик — вопрос; предположительно] Значит ли это, что ум тоже связан с этой грантхи? 57. 19:58–20:34 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Это грантхи; не грантхи, а в некотором смысле главная железа. [Фраза неясна] 98% спит. Нужно разбудить великана. Все эти грантхи и тайны — процесс его пробуждения. Прежде надо многое подготовить. Если он так долго спал, проснувшись, потребует еду. Что вы дадите? Нужно всё подготовить. 58. 20:34–20:37 (original source) [Ученик — замечание/ответ; предположительно] Мы даже не знаем, какая еда… 59. 20:37–20:44 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Только когда узнаете тайны разных грантхи, поймёте. 60. 20:44–20:50 (original source) [Ученик — вопрос; предположительно] Но чем пытаться понять тайну грантхи, если главный инструмент всё ещё [неясно]? 61. 20:50–21:29 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Двух процентов достаточно, если использовать их на сто процентов. Нет, мы используем лишь два процента от этих двух. Сначала научитесь использовать их на сто процентов, и начнёте видеть дальше. Думаю, кроме меня никто так не говорит. Кто будет? Тот, кто постиг тайну, кто понял. Само понимание — большое достижение. 62. 21:29–21:44 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Я простой человек, практикую йогу 44 года. Ничем другим не занимался: ни работой, ни бизнесом. 63. 21:44–21:54 (original source) [Ученик — вопрос; предположительно] Я не знаю никого такого простого, как вы, Гуруджи. Кто 44 года живёт по постоянному распорядку? 64. 21:54–22:05 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Из этих 44 лет последние 33 я живу на [месте кремации?], не выезжая, что вы, наверное, уже заметили. 65. 22:05–22:16 (original source) [Говорящий не установлен — замечание/контекст] [Краткий разговор о другом человеке неразборчив.] Возможно, только тот, кто был заключённым [число неясно] лет. 66. 22:16–22:42 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Разве мы не пленники собственных ограничений, заблуждений и глупых идей? Мы их пленники. Это ещё хуже. В заключении я вижу лишь один плюс: питание и лечение бесплатны. 67. 22:42–22:46 (original source) [Ученик — замечание/ответ; предположительно] Но тогда можно ежедневно выполнять садхану. 68. 22:46–23:14 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Нет, надо соблюдать тюремные правила; вам не позволят практиковать. [Краткие ответы неразборчивы.] Там нельзя заниматься йогой, но можно тренироваться. Здесь даже убрали [тренажёры?], потому что ими дрались и убивали друг друга. 69. 23:14–23:20 (original source) [Ученик — вопрос; предположительно] Если учить других йоге, можно практиковать вместе? 70. 23:20–23:24 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Возможно, но это очень трудно [конец неясен]. 71. 23:24–23:59 (original source) [Говорящий не установлен — замечание/контекст] [Далее разговор о длительности и цели неразборчив.] 72. 23:59–24:13 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] В 22 года я понял, что буду делать, и ничем другим не занимался. 73. 24:13–24:21 (original source) [Ученик — замечание/ответ; предположительно] Для тех, кто приходит, большое благословение — учиться на вашем личном опыте [конец неразборчив]. 74. 24:21–24:30 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Для меня привилегия — делиться тем, что я открыл и пережил. 75. 24:30–24:37 (original source) [Ученик — вопрос; предположительно] Гуруджи, в чём секрет? Почему вам всё ещё не надоело, почему не устали? 76. 24:37–24:39 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] От чего? 77. 24:39–24:44 (original source) [Ученик — замечание/ответ; предположительно] Каждый день встречать людей, разговаривать с ними, с нашим невежеством. 78. 24:44–25:30 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Я не школьный учитель. Каждый человек уникален. До вас в творении не было никого такого, как вы, и после вас не будет. Каждый несёт нечто особенное, сущность от Творца. Когда приходят разные люди и говорят, я тоже учусь. Мне задали тысячи вопросов, и способность отвечать тоже развилась. Всё хорошо. Мне скучно, когда из любопытства спрашивают глупости. Иногда это забавно, но не настолько. 79. 25:30–25:37 (original source) [Ученик — вопрос; предположительно] Но разве вам не нужно быть с собой? Нервная система настолько сильна, что отдых не нужен? 80. 25:37–25:39 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Я всегда с собой. 81. 25:39–25:41 (original source) [Ученик — вопрос; предположительно] Даже с людьми? 82. 25:41–25:43 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Я всегда с собой. 83. 25:43–25:50 (original source) [Ученик — замечание/ответ; предположительно] Обычным людям, мне иногда нужно… [неясно]. 84. 25:50–26:20 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Вы видите мой ежедневный [распорядок?]. Спускаюсь после трёх и до 11:30 доступен. Потом с 11:30 до следующих трёх я один. Сколько времени нужно? Между этим собаки приходят меня спасать, и я бываю с ними [длительность неясна]. С ними мне хорошо. 85. 26:20–26:27 (original source) [Ученик — замечание/ответ; предположительно] Находить радость в одном и том же распорядке — большое достижение. 86. 26:27–26:37 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Я не искал радость, но обнаружил, что мудрость — настоящее развлечение [конец неясен]. 87. 26:37–26:50 (original source) [Говорящий не установлен — замечание/контекст] [Краткий ответ / пауза.] Личный разговор исключён из публичной версии. 89. 27:07–27:20 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Здесь можно пообедать бесплатно, и чай тоже. Мама смеялась, что все приходят на бесплатную чашку чая, поэтому я добавил и бесплатный обед. 90. 27:20–27:23 (original source) [Ученик — вопрос; предположительно] Теперь приходят посидеть под [кондиционером?]. 91. 27:23–27:28 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Летом это большое облегчение для любого. Личный разговор исключён из публичной версии. 97. 28:32–28:38 (original source) [Ученик — вопрос; предположительно] Я слышала, что этот палец [неясно]. Что вы думаете? 98. 28:38–28:42 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Так пишут в хиромантии и астрологии. 99. 28:42–28:47 (original source) [Ученик — вопрос; предположительно] Почему нельзя повторять мантру так? [Жест не виден в аудио.] 100. 28:47–29:20 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Мусульмане делают так или так. [Наложение голосов неразборчиво.] Показывать этот палец очень оскорбительно. Такой жест с моей стороны вам был бы очень оскорбителен. Так делать не рекомендуется. Обычно используют этот палец [жест неясен]. Мусульмане делают так или этим. 101. 29:20–29:52 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Вы согласитесь, что это влияние индуизма. Христиане используют чётки, мусульмане тоже. Мы первыми их использовали. Индусы делают это тысячи лет. [Фрагмент неразборчив.] Почему христианство взяло это у нас? Зачем священники и другие люди перебирают бусины? Зачем это делают мусульмане? 102. 29:52–30:00 (original source) [Говорящий не установлен — замечание/контекст] [Ответ и упоминания жестов неразборчивы.] 103. 30:00–30:15 (original source) [Говорящий не установлен — замечание/контекст] [Разговор о правой руке / жестах неразборчив.] 104. 30:15–30:35 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] В Индии в некоторых видах магии используется этот палец. Делают магию, указывают им, и человек снимает одежду и начинает танцевать. Это просто для безопасности. Если кто-то указывает, говорят: «Нет, не делай этого». [Шутливый контекст; жест неясен.] 105. 30:35–31:09 (original source) [Говорящий не установлен — замечание/контекст] Во всём нужна практика. Боже, вы напомнили интересную магию. Попробую её выучить. [Рассказ о шляпе / курице не восстановлен; говорящий не установлен.] 106. 31:09–31:12 (original source) [Ученик — замечание/ответ; предположительно] Но вы можете благословить нас этим пальцем. 107. 31:12–31:22 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] [Фраза неясна] палец Бога. Даже Микеланджело изобразил так, этот палец. 108. 31:22–31:49 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Сколько у вас пальцев? Все говорят пять. Но у нас четыре пальца и один большой. Все говорят пять. 109. 31:49–32:14 (original source) [Ученик — вопрос; предположительно] Почему [вопрос неразборчив]? Некоторые носят бриллиант на большом пальце. 110. 32:14–33:00 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] В Индии так много всего. [Пауза.] Говорят, это холм Венеры. Бриллиант усиливает Венеру, поэтому надевают кольцо на большой палец. Увидите много вариантов. [Краткий разговор неразборчив.] 111. 33:00–33:12 (original source) [Вероятно, Гуруджи; предположительно] Начали обсуждение с грантхи, а теперь дошли до уровня большого пальца. Что дальше? Личный разговор исключён из публичной версии. SOURCE NOTES Public privacy edition. Personal exchanges are omitted in every language. The full audio excerpt is temporarily withheld pending listening-verified editing. Private originals are unchanged. Публичная версия с исключением личных разговоров во всех языках. Весь аудиофрагмент временно закрыт до проверки монтажа на слух. Частные оригиналы не изменены. This is a transcript draft, not a complete listening-verified verbatim record. Speaker labels, timing and unclear words remain provisional. Claims are attributed to the conversation, not independently established facts or advice. Existing editorial holds remain excluded. Это черновая расшифровка, не полная дословная запись, проверенная на слух. Говорящие, время и неясные слова определены предварительно. Высказывания приписываются беседе, а не считаются установленными фактами или рекомендациями. Ранее закрытые фрагменты остаются закрытыми.